Take 2 - Sharer for my horse UPDATE

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well my "loaning my horse" post last night happened to get a complaint today, so admin pulled it - seems that someone got uppety with what they read, about my old pony that I had to have PTS. It looks like someone cant get over the past or that they have something to be guilty about! Shame they have to complain to admin rather than facing me direct about it.

so seen as the post got removed would the kind people who had the time to post before post again for me? (I didnt get to catch up on any replies after last night)

what type of conditions would you want to put on a loan agreement for one of your horses?
how much would you look at offering a sharer - would you stipulate days/hours/times?
would you draw up an agreement like the BHS loan agreement but for a sharer?

Btw for anyone who didnt see the original post, the mare in question that may be up for loaning/sharing is a 16.2hh 16yo IDxTB who is quirky. She can rear/buck when excited but is very safe, snaffle mouthed and well schooled.
 
a sharers usually a two days a week and one at the weekend, i'd definately use the BHS agreement as a rouggh idea of waht to put in it, however i cant say what conditions i'd put in it as i would never consider to share or loan taz im to selfish haha
 
ooooh b very careful, I once had a loaner, didn't quite work out how i thought it would even though I had vetted them! Very sad outcome, very distressing
 
The owner of the horse I used to share and I both drew up a modified bhs loan agreement for our situation, added in bits like who was to do what on which days, who had to get vet and who paid for it, sharer's responsibilities and owner's responsibilities, when money was due etc.

I used to pay £110/month for 3 weekdays and a weekend day, on my days I did everything bar turning out- YO did that as the horse was 40 minutes away from my home. I was able to hack school and jump the horse, if I had carried the share on into the summer probably a few shows but I ended it in May last year.

I would stipulate days that the sharer should ride/muck out etc, but times is IMO up to them and as long as the horse is done on that day to your standards it shouldn't matter what time they go to the yard.
 
cheers JenTaz. I know what you mean about selfish, i really dont want to but dont want to see my mare moping around the field. This year ive got my WB, my youngster to bring on after starting to back her last autumn, then my new Hafflinger who is completly unknown to me on the riding side. I currently dont have my arena built but hopefully it wont be long and that will make a difference.
 
I dont want to come over as selfish or too overpowering, but this horse means so much to me. I got her as a baby and shes been with me ever since, weve been through everything together.
so conditions: she would have to stay with me at my place and i would ideally like to say that they would come out riding when im taking my others out but i know that might be a bit too restrictive for some poeple
think ill get a solicitior to check the next agreement should i decide to go ahead.
 
im sorry to hear that dumbo, sounds like you also lost a horse?
when I had mine PTS it caused so much heartache in my family - even part of my family who isnt horsey at all were devasted when we broke the news to them.
im sure you did the right thing for your horse, and that you remember the good times you had together with them.
 
As a sharer I don't actually have a contract (although I'd be happy to) and we're totally flexible about days and times... but things to consider (over and above what I'm guessing will be in the BHS loan contract anyway) include...

- activities horse can/can't do, where they can take it and with who
- rider insurance
- payment by week/month/whatever and for extras like shoes
- chores
- what happens if horse is off work (e.g. ill/saddle being re-flocked) for any period of time
- that they stick to yard rules so you stay on good terms with everyone there
- who can ride horse
 
When someone wants to loan a horse, whether it be full time or part time, they usually end up with a list as long as their arm.
Its wise to re visit that list and look at what is really important, and what you can be flexible with.
I only say this as the more restrictions you have, the less chance you have of finding a suitable sharer.
Also, not being funny but you see time and time again owners wanting full control, yet the want half the horses costs covered!! Er thats a big no no I think, if an owner wants a grown up to take responsibility, then they gotta show some trust also.

I've had horses out on loan, and had a disaster with it, but I still realise I can't dictate and control and expect someone to cover my horses costs.
If I want control, then I should advertise for help needed with riding, general stable duties etc - and the person helping should not be paying for this, its work in return for riding x
 
I've shared horses and it's worked out brilliantly. I found a lovely girl for my standardbred who shared him for almost 2yrs, before I sold him. She was brilliant and cared for him as if he was her own.

I currently loan a horse whilst my baby grows up and his owners perfectly happy - I woulnd't even consider treating him any differently just because I don't own him.

If you are loaning you need to 'let go' and let them get on with it. Trying to loan the horse on an existing yard is next to impossible.

Sounds like you'd be better going for a sharers/exerciser.You still need to be able to just let them get on with it but you will still have the full control of her care choices.

How many days depends on what you want. Most people would be looking for 2-3 days a week and expect at least one of them to be a weekend. How much depends on your a facilities and how many days they want the less days the more you charge per day. I'd prob go for £15-20 for 2days and £20-25 for 3, as my livery is cheap and facilities aren't great.

If it's just a share you can stipulate conditions, as long as they are reasonable. They'd be expected to continue looking after her in the same way you do and if it's only a couple of days a week I wouldn't be expecting much 'say' in their care choices.

What you ask for again depends on what you want. Do you want 'days off', so they do her completely? Or just someone to basically turn up and ride?

In my contract (a very exteneded version on the BHS contract - I can PM you it if I can find it but it's long!) had things like: who was allowed to ride him, what was expected on 'their' days, rules of what she could do with him, things she had to make sure she did before riding (reflectives, grooming etc), tack involved (and it's condition), what she was liable/repsonsible for, who was resposible for what (vet bills, lost shoes, tack, accidents etc).

Some things were set in stone (she MUST wear reflectives etc) but others more flexible - friends could come and ride him but she MUST ask permission first.

I'm easy going and not precious about my horses so I found it easy to have a sharer - I know others who wouldn't
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. If you're the kind of person who thinks 'mine, it's MY horse. Don't touch' (and there's plenty of them about!) them don't get a sharer!
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