Talk some sense into me!

I'm a no 🙈

I too have a mum who's a terrible influence and is constantly trying to talk me into more horses.

When I lost TPO I was offered her full brother, both ex racers, but I loved TPO so much I don't know how her brother would have stood a chance measuring up to her.

Ex racers, as you know, can come with more *concerns* than youngsters that haven't raced. I love tbs and the ethos of giving those out of racing a new career but it does come at a cost.

Should my mum ever win and I look at another every inch of it will be xrayed before buying. Certainly not a case of driving it home the same day without a very thorough vetting.

I really think, at the least, you need to take time to think this through properly and sensibly. Make a proper plan for any potential horse and don't be led by your heart/family link you Grace.
 
As long as you can afford to lose the cost of him if it all goes wrong, and can afford any potential vets bills, and you have time and a place to keep him, then I’m not going to say ‘no’!
 
I'm on the fence with this one. After I lost V, their is no way in the world I ever wanted to sit on another welsh cob. And I haven't.

After 18 mths of telling myself I'd given up, I bought a small, black hairy Fell pony. Couldn't be more different in looks or personality but he is my absolute world.
 
When I had to retire Amber (ISH), I wondered how any other horse could ever live up to her. I was cautioned against trying to replace her so I bought a Connie X TB who I never gelled with, then loaned a Welsh D who failed the vet when I decided to buy. Which I now believe was a blesing in disguise. Then an ISH with similar breeding to Amber popped up on my FB feed and I bought her unseen from Ireland. Within seconds of sitting on her I knew I'd found my horse. She is so like Amber in many ways - athletic, bold, clever, forward. But is also very much her own person and she does not feel like an Amber Mark II. Just like a horse of the type I love. And I was lucky enough to have found 2 of them. The brother may be nothing like Grace. But then again he might. And you may feel right at home immediately. I think going to meet him is definitely the right thing to do. Though I also think you should vet!
 
ycbm said:
Please if the whole family line is "clumsy" and nobody has ruled it out already, x ray C6/7 in the neck before you buy this horse.
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Grace has been x-rayed and bone scanned from top to bottom and we've never found anything, other than her developing kissing spines in two areas, but she only got the kissing spines after breaking two vertebrae.
When I say clumsy, I mean more a complete and utter lack of self preservation. Grace has gone through five bar gates and degloved her front legs, kicked stable doors and done an artery in her back foot, her sister went through a stable wall because a horse she didn't like walked past and degloved her back leg. Things like that, so not clumsiness per say, just complete and utter idiocy 🙈
 
EquestrianEllie01 said:
Grace has been x-rayed and bone scanned from top to bottom and we've never found anything, other than her developing kissing spines in two areas, but she only got the kissing spines after breaking two vertebrae.
When I say clumsy, I mean more a complete and utter lack of self preservation. Grace has gone through five bar gates and degloved her front legs, kicked stable doors and done an artery in her back foot, her sister went through a stable wall because a horse she didn't like walked past and degloved her back leg. Things like that, so not clumsiness per say, just complete and utter idiocy 🙈
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And you want her brother 🤣 we're all mad, I've no idea why I'm looking for another I know it's only a matter of time before it breaks my heart (and the bank).
 
Tiddlypom said:
Um, why would you want another horse that may have no sense of self preservation? Or is clumsy?

Not seeing the positives here...
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And mares are very different from geldings....I always thought it's a mistake to try to get as similar as possible to what you've got/had, but I'd have another from the sire of one of my horses in a heartbeat. You definitely need to go and see him though...just because you'd always wonder about him, if you didn't!
 
EquestrianEllie01 said:
You lot are the worst people to ask when you want convincing not to buy a horse! He's 8 hours away so I if I go to look I would have to be bringing him back with me, which mum seems well up for 🙈.

Throwback to equally mad, irresponsible way I bought Grace!

Oh dear, I've done something very stupid...

Oh good God, what have I done! Right, bit of back story; Mum and I have just (a week ago) moved yards to somewhere with group TO as Dude wouldn't let any other horses into his and Ava's field (companion plan didn't work). All feeling very happy and settled. Only one stable currently available...
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This means it’s fate
 
Tiddlypom said:
Um, why would you want another horse that may have no sense of self preservation? Or is clumsy?

Not seeing the positives here...
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I absolutely 100% agree with you Tiddlypom. From what I've put on this thread (and probably most of my other threads about Grace) I can totally see why anyone would think I'm completely barking for wanting another one.

But, and it's a big but, what I struggle to put into words on here is the amazing feeling I got whenever I sat on her, the kindness that always shines so brightly in her big, beautiful eyes, and her face over the stable door every morning that just makes me beam. I'm not nieve, I know there is a very high chance that he will be nothing like her, but two of the three big things in my list that I love about Grace, I know he has too; the big kind eyes and that same lovely face over the stable door.

I have spoken to his groom at length tonight, he sounds absolutely perfect. She is going to send me some slightly better videos of him tomorrow and my lovely vet is going to take a look for me.

I know you lot will think me mad, but if that all looks good then I am going to put a deposit on him tomorrow as I won't be able to go and see him with mum for at least a week or two (and I'm not going without her), and I don't want him to go. Then will arrange to go and meet and potentially bring him home 😬
 
ycbm said:
And you want her brother 🤣 we're all mad, I've no idea why I'm looking for another I know it's only a matter of time before it breaks my heart (and the bank).
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Yup, there is not a doubt in my mind that this one will break aswell and I will be just as devastated as I have been every other time I've had one breakdown.

So far, I've had one get a brain tumour at 6 (I'd had him from 6 months old), the next one get an infected pedal bone, have a pedal scrape and then not come right and need PTS anyway. Then one I'd just taken the ride on (luckily not mine this time) start going strange, 8 months down the line get diagnosed as a wobbler and then PTS 3 months later. And lastly Grace breaking her back and just never coming right since. I mean honestly, why on earth do I want another one 🙈
 
nagblagger said:
Could you put a deposit on him, arrange to meet him with your mum in a weeks time but in the meantime have him vetted?
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If I'm honest, I probably won't bother with a vetting. He is straight out of training and under £3000. My usual theory on vetting for anything under £5000 is that it's very likely to throw things up that may well not be causing any issues right now, but then you have a massive insurance exclusion for if it does cause an issue 5 years down the line. After all, it's only a picture of what that horse is like on that particular day. I personally have never had the need to run bloods from a vetting, and have only ever done x-rays when I've been spending upwards of 10k. I know that's not what a lot of people would do, but it has worked well for me so far in that I've never bought something with a problem. The problems came later 🙈! Well, minus the wobbler. He had that when I got him, but in my defence I didn't buy him, he was given to me to compete 😉
 
blitznbobs said:
Try if you will but i always think this is a
Huge mistake … a brother does not necessarily make the same sort of horse … it sounds like you are trying to replace like with like which is a dangerous game indeed .
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A totally fair and probably right assessment of the situation. But as a poster said above, I can always school him up and sell him in if I don't quite click with him. Not that it makes me buying him any more sensible, but hey ho🤷‍♀️
 
Oh guys, I don't think it's quite meant to be unfortunately 😔.

I got a message from his groom last night to say he has unfortunately gone lame behind. She sent me some videos and it's not awful but he's not right. She doesn't know when it's happened, he's been in a barn for the last 3 months so anywhen between the original videos she sent me and now really. We've decided to wait and see what he looks like Monday.

I should just walk away, if it were any other horse I would, and I really need to not let the fact he's Grace's brother cloud that.

Grace has also come up painful on her back again when I tested it today, so she will need x-raying, working up, medicating, all that stuff that costs lots of money. Which is fine, I would more than be able to afford that and a new horse, but it's put into perspective a bit  why I didn't want another new one. I want to have the time to spend on Grace and not be rushing her because I want to ride, I'm genuinely not sure how much longer she'll be around as she has gone downhill so quickly from last January and does look very old and tired now.

So we shall see what Monday brings, but I think my decision has been made sadly 😥 😔

Also as an aside, I hate the new preview mode with a passion 🤣
 
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