TB stallions with super strong back ends

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Have asked similar before but asking again cause slightly different criteria now.

Looking for pure TB, back end of mare is weakest so needs excellent conformation especially in hind legs.
Forward, bold type for eventing.

Foal to keep.

Alternatively - anywhere that stands multiple TB stallions? There's a lot of places that provide semen but generally they're TBx or WB.

TIA
 
Here is a picture of one of ours by My Eclipse :)

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Springs said:
You could look at Spring's Spirit, not a full TB, but very high at 75%, he's competing at 1* eventing and young stock are showing great promise in eventing.
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The op has a criteria they are looking for and your guy does not full fill that. Having seen him yesterday I can honestly say he wasnt what I was expecting ! Better leave it at that.
 
Springs said:
No just responding to a post on the forum.

If you want to know more about advertising drop me a PM and I'll let you have all the details etc


Many Thanks for your support
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I'm not supporting you, I'm actually a little narked that some very valuable forum members who own stallions have been hauled over the coals for mentioning their horses, even in passing, yet you are constantly promoting your own stallion without any comeback. It just takes a look at your previous posts to see that you aren't really interested in taking part in this forum properly, it's mainly just to promote your own horse.
 
popsdosh said:
The op has a criteria they are looking for and your guy does not full fill that. Having seen him yesterday I can honestly say he wasnt what I was expecting ! Better leave it at that.
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you never just know and the op may have an interest and thanks for the negative comment, add that to the 30 positive ones we had I'll take that as a positive coming from you.

Thank you for your support.
 
Faracat said:
I'm not supporting you, I'm actually a little narked that some very valuable forum members who own stallions have been hauled over the coals for mentioning their horses, even in passing, yet you are constantly promoting your own stallion without any comeback. It just takes a look at your previous posts to see that you aren't really interested in taking part in this forum properly, it's mainly just to promote your own horse.
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Its a shame if your narked and like many other posters I have also had some run in with Admin over posts. I think you will find that according to the rules you can respond to a post. I leave this for you to ponder.

At one time the forum was the place to go for chat and information but that's changed in recent years with Facebook and Twitter etc and so the valued forum members have reduced over the years, some have also left due to the trolls or faceless people who hide behind the key pad. So with above in mind please excuse me if I not on this forum 24/7 doing my knitting waiting for a post to respond to. Many Thanks for your support.
 
Where we are missing the studs like Louella now.

Primitive Proposal is still standing and in my experience throws lovely, big, very sporty eventing types.
 
Springs said:
…….. . I think you will find that according to the rules you can respond to a post. I leave this for you to ponder.

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On your behalf, and that of others, I've asked Admin for clarification.

As has been pointed out by popsdosh, the OP is looking for a Thoroughbred, not a part-bred.

To the OP, I'd imagine that the best place to look for such a horse would be in Ireland, but so few of the studs out there have websites, often no internet connection, and any sensible camera salesman should make a killing! For most out there, chilled, frozen and shipping seem to be quite beyond them!

The Irish don't seem big on promotion, sadly and tend to rely upon their reputations and word of mouth! The best of the TBs though, are still standing in the Emerald Isle, I suspect.

It's such a shame that the best NH stallions are still commanding fees which are beyond the sport horse breeder. I remain convinced that if TB blood is what's needed, then just any-old TB won't do, it's horses with proven records which are needed.

Alec.
 
Alec Swan said:
On your behalf, and that of others, I've asked Admin for clarification.

As has been pointed out by popsdosh, the OP is looking for a Thoroughbred, not a part-bred.

To the OP, I'd imagine that the best place to look for such a horse would be in Ireland, but so few of the studs out there have websites, often no internet connection, and any sensible camera salesman should make a killing! For most out there, chilled, frozen and shipping seem to be quite beyond them!

The Irish don't seem big on promotion, sadly and tend to rely upon their reputations and word of mouth! The best of the TBs though, are still standing in the Emerald Isle, I suspect.

It's such a shame that the best NH stallions are still commanding fees which are beyond the sport horse breeder. I remain convinced that if TB blood is what's needed, then just any-old TB won't do, it's horses with proven records which are needed.

Alec.
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Indeed that used to be the joy of SHBGB in a previous incarnation was it not!

Bandmaster is a lovely big TB follow the link Primitive Proposal also standing there

http://www.vauterhillstud.co.uk/stallions.html
 
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I looked at Sirens Missile a couple of years ago. Not overly tall but a really lovely strong stamp. I was also impressed by Bandmaster. For me Springs Spirit has no depth or strength. I like the conformation on Sugarfoot too, but he is an old boy and natural only, plus chestnut and I am not keen on chestnut horses so I passed him by when I was looking.
 
AdorableAlice said:
stamp. For me Springs Spirit has no depth or strength.
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For what its worth that was what surprised me in the flesh as out of all the stallions there he looked by far the most immature! Particularly in depth of chest and spring to the rib. Springs, if he was mine and you are serious about marketing him you need to reevaluate where your aiming and maybe listen to some breeders looking to breed event horses . To be honest personally with TB mares I am looking towards good SJ or dressage stallions with some blood still in their pedigree . There were several nice candidates yesterday as there was some lovely bred european young stallions ,I was so pleased I went as I went expecting to use Jaguar mail and actually realised he wouldnt suit my mares . I am extremely saddened to say I did not see one British bred stallion that got me half interested.
 
Alec Swan said:
To the OP, I'd imagine that the best place to look for such a horse would be in Ireland, but so few of the studs out there have websites, often no internet connection, and any sensible camera salesman should make a killing! For most out there, chilled, frozen and shipping seem to be quite beyond them!

The Irish don't seem big on promotion, sadly and tend to rely upon their reputations and word of mouth! The best of the TBs though, are still standing in the Emerald Isle, I suspect.

It's such a shame that the best NH stallions are still commanding fees which are beyond the sport horse breeder. I remain convinced that if TB blood is what's needed, then just any-old TB won't do, it's horses with proven records which are needed.

Alec.
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Thanks for replies folks. Entirely agree Alec. I'm sure you're right. Weston Justice is probably my favourite but he's only 15/16th - although unlikely that 1/16 will make a huge difference. some other great suggestions to look into - the same names always crop up on these TB stallion threads. I love the look of PP but get put off him every time I look into him, just not convinced he's as great as his sire was. Thanks again.
 
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I have been looking for similar as need more blood and to lighten my heavy WB mare. I have been looking at Sula Blue, Revolution, Kings Composer, Power Blade and Primitive Proposal. I was at the stallion show at the weekend and was a little disappointed and surprised with the selection presented, Jaguar Mail looked a little heavy in his frame, but for 20 years old I suppose that's ok. Spring's Spirit looks very thoroughbred and was very athletic, with a good behind over the fences which I like. Exclusive and Future Gravitas was nice but not enough blood. A little more research is needed after the weekend on final short list I think.
 
I thought that for a modern warmblood type NIc Nac quality I think will go a long way to me he was the standout of the young jumping type ones, there was a lot of interest in him after his display and the poor boy did that having been travelling for 7 hrs having left his stable in Belgium at 4am. Like I said above I went to see JM in the flesh and was glad I did however having large NH type mares realised he was not really going to suit.
Exclusive caught my eye too and I will say at least he has proved himself eventing having 89 points(won an Int) as a seven year old is no mean feet and reasonably priced considering the pricing of some
 
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millitiger said:
Where we are missing the studs like Louella now.

Primitive Proposal is still standing and in my experience throws lovely, big, very sporty eventing types.
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I have no personal experience of breeding, but I do know someone who used Primitive Proposal. The filly was out of a 17.2 mare and is barely 15 hands at rising five. Of course, she could have a few more inches in her yet, and I do think she is the exception rather than the rule, but be aware that he can throw significantly smaller than himself too.
 
JJS said:
I have no personal experience of breeding, but I do know someone who used Primitive Proposal. The filly was out of a 17.2 mare and is barely 15 hands at rising five. Of course, she could have a few more inches in her yet, and I do think she is the exception rather than the rule, but be aware that he can throw significantly smaller than himself too.
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I've known a good many PP and that certainly sounds an exception!
 
millitiger said:
I've known a good many PP and that certainly sounds an exception!
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The one we had here for a client also didn't grow and has just been pts with a kissing spine issue and a very quirky temperament which he had right from when he was born.
Primitive rising his sire could throw small too
Mares subsequent foal by a much smaller TB stallion was bigger at 9 months old than her half brother at 3 and had a much nicer temperament too despite her being a chestnut filly and him a bay gelding
 
Springs Spirit gets suggested for every mare on here, like whippets in AAD!
My pennies worth is an ex forum member on here used Kings Composer and got a lovely horse. I don't actually know if he is still alive!
 
It's an entirely pointless exercise considering the stallion to be used, if we don't also consider the mare.

There is no stallion born which will improve upon a rubbish mare. …….. just saying! :D

Alec.

ets. And further; "My mare is weak behind, she's …….. her listed failings". Any foal that she produces will most likely also follow her faults and failings.
 
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Alec Swan said:
It's an entirely pointless exercise considering the stallion to be used, if we don't also consider the mare.

There is no stallion born which will improve upon a rubbish mare. …….. just saying! :D

Alec.

ets. And further; "My mare is weak behind, she's …….. her listed failings". Any foal that she produces will most likely also follow her faults and failings.
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You are stating the obvious to be sure. Ive got into enough trouble recently so thank you! :-) In my mind if your mare is not of the quality that you would use as a stallion whats the point,however many dont agree because stallions are miracle workers.
 
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