Ted vibes please

Auslander said:
He's still eating - just not prepared to make an effort to get to food! He'll eat his hard feed if I take to to him, and he's grazing.
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Poor boy - but eating is a good sign. We had an 'OMG it might be strangles" moment at our yard with a couple of poorly horses a month ago. Turned out to just be a virus, but they were both really depressed and quiet. Took 3 weeks and antibiotics for improvement.

Hugs and best wishes from the 2 hairy carthorses xx
 
Oh bless him. Yes, it was really hot. This weather just keeps changing. It could be Cushings. My mare acted as though she had a horrible virus before she was diagnosed. She was really ill with it.
 
He is being a brave little soldier!
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apercrumbie said:
Oh no, poor Ted! Keeping fingers crossed.

Just a thought - it couldn't be lami could it? It can sometimes present strangely.
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Pretty sure it isn't. He's standing and walking normally, and has no heat/pulses. He was trimmed two days ago, and my farrier would have said something if he thought there was the slightest possibility of laminitis. I'm keeping an eye on his feet and checking for pulses anyway - can't rule anything out!
 
Auslander said:
Pretty sure it isn't. He's standing and walking normally, and has no heat/pulses. He was trimmed two days ago, and my farrier would have said something if he thought there was the slightest possibility of laminitis. I'm keeping an eye on his feet and checking for pulses anyway - can't rule anything out!
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That's one thing at least. I assumed it wouldn't be but our larger horse just seems "ill" when he has lami and often doesn't have the more usual symptoms so thought I should mention. Go Ted!
 
My vet just rang. White blood cells are high, and other results suggest that either liver or worm damage - neither of which would surprise me greatly, after the state he was in when I got him. She's asked for some more tests to be run to try and pinpoint what's going on. SHe's a star - had already despatched one of her vets to bring Ted some antibiotics and pain relief before she rang me.
 
Bless him. Does he have higher than normal GGT and AST levels? We put our old mare on hepatosyl when she tested for pretty high levels and tweaked her diet slightly. Month later (horrible you have to wait so long to retest but it's pointless testing too often) and she was back to normal and we didn't have a problem again.
 
I'm working myself up into a state of fury about it. First his appalling teeth, then the horrendous worm burden, and now this (results suggest that it's chronic liver damage, rather than inflammation)

I work really hard to do my best by my horses, and the horses in my care. I feed good quality hay and hard feed, I have a proper worming programme, I use really good vets, farriers, dentists, bodyworkers etc. I spend hours thinking about what I do, and how I do it.

BUT - I'm the one who's going to be paying through the nose to fix a pony whose problems are directly attributed to neglect in his previous home. Doesn't seem very fair to me!
 
Just seen the blood results - the clinical observations at the bottom say it all really "Marked chronic inflammatory picture with evidence of a concerning degree of hepatic compromise"
 
Here's the rest - for any haematology geeks

Total Protein 80 g/l (54-72)
Albumin 27 g/l (30-42)
Globulin 53 g/l (17-37)
Serum Iron 468.99 ug/dL (>119)
Serum Amyloid A 0 mg/l (<5.4)

AST 718 iu/l (<420)
GGT 198 iu/l (<49)
CK 727 iu/l (<678)
AP 622 iu/l (<362)
Bile Acids 34 umol/l (<14)
Urea 3.6 mmol/l (<9.1)
Creatinine 34 umol/l (<147)

HAEMATOLOGY

RBC 7.52 x10^12/l (5.51-10.49)
PCV 38.0 L/l (32.4-52.3)
Hb 12.8 g/dl (11.0-17.2)
MCV 50.5 fL (42-59)
MCHC 33.7 g/dl (31.8-40.1)
MCH 17.0 pg (15.0-21.7)

WBC 9.8 x10^9/l (4.3-9.5)
Neutrophils 72.1% 7.07 x10^9/l (2.4-6.6)
Lymphocytes 25.3% 2.48 x10^9/l (1.5-5.1)
Monocytes 1.9% 0.19 x10^9/l (<0.5)
Eosinophils 0.7% 0.07 x10^9/l (<0.6)
Platelets 106 x10^9/l (62-248)

Comment Neutrophils show slight left shift
 
I know exactly how you feel about having to fix another persons neglect and ending up with the cost and stress. As well as the constant worry and desire to do the best by the horses in your care.

Thank god he ended up with you, but you must be spitting feathers :(
 
Auslander said:
I'm working myself up into a state of fury about it. First his appalling teeth, then the horrendous worm burden, and now this (results suggest that it's chronic liver damage, rather than inflammation)

I work really hard to do my best by my horses, and the horses in my care. I feed good quality hay and hard feed, I have a proper worming programme, I use really good vets, farriers, dentists, bodyworkers etc. I spend hours thinking about what I do, and how I do it.

BUT - I'm the one who's going to be paying through the nose to fix a pony whose problems are directly attributed to neglect in his previous home. Doesn't seem very fair to me!
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I'm sure the little man is very grateful. He's so lucky to have such a caring owner to have rescued him and care for him so diligently.

Come on Ted, repay your mum by getting better and causing your usual havoc. She loves it really.
 
hi I pm messaged you I will add you later on when I finish work , poor ted bless him hope his abs kick in and pick him up a little x lots of hugs and vibes xx
 
Auslander said:
I'm working myself up into a state of fury about it. First his appalling teeth, then the horrendous worm burden, and now this (results suggest that it's chronic liver damage, rather than inflammation)

I work really hard to do my best by my horses, and the horses in my care. I feed good quality hay and hard feed, I have a proper worming programme, I use really good vets, farriers, dentists, bodyworkers etc. I spend hours thinking about what I do, and how I do it.

BUT - I'm the one who's going to be paying through the nose to fix a pony whose problems are directly attributed to neglect in his previous home. Doesn't seem very fair to me!
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I've been there and bought the T-Shirt with this type of situation. Now you have the results you know what the problem is so you can stop worrying what is wrong with Ted
Has the vet suggested a Vit B jab and a liver support suppliment + a probiotic if issuing AB's

If you are in Berks and need a hand let me know, I come with an array of little rugs for every occasion
 
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