Teenagers on HHO My Take on it

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Not wanting to start WW3 but in a Nutshell we are not good with them at all are we!

Out of interest I had a looked at all the Threads posted by BSJA123 and yes they are very much the posts of a youngster, one who is enthusiastic and likes to post and get responses very much your typical teenager who wants to learn but never takes it all in or gets it totally right. I am sure we have all had one down at our yards and we either took them under our wings or gave them a wide berth. Yes they like attention but who doesn't?

It seems that we have the same group of people who post on all her threads who dive in with "you never listened to my advice" yep that would be a typical teenager then I lose count of the number of times I give advice to my teenage stepson which either gets totally ignored or a bit of it used I am convinced that he is dead set on doing everything the difficult way....he will lean though.

She obviously cares for her horse and is asking for advice so feel free to either give it or not for those of you getting hot under the collar about "all I care about is the welfare of the horse" all well and good but unless you are intending to drive up and pick up the horse then you best bet is to hit the UI button and get on with your in all probability very busy life.

Like a lot of other users I see no reason at all why a 14 year old girl is treated like this, if you don't like it put her on UI and get on with your lives, don't open her posts (I normally don't) then whatever she says will not upset you. If you are all convinced that she is in fact trying to wind everyone up (certainly succeeding with some of you) then again ignore and walk away stop feeding.

She had one post about helping out a friend where she was getting good reasoned advice from most users then suddenly the gang arrived and the accusations of troll, pot kettle black, attention seeking started flowing thick and fast. Why? what did you achieve apart from a mild raise in your own blood pressure?

It seems to me we have a group of Women of a certain age who like to take out their ill temper on a nameless/faceless individual I am assuming that if this was a real life situation you would all be nestling the tack room drinking tea and muttering into your respective beards.

And it is not exactly a one off situation is it, remember the abuse that poor Jadey&Lady used to get more power to her that she has stuck with it! and even Thelwell Girl (probably one of nicest and enthusiastic teens to post on here) gets some comments that are frankly terrible.

I am sure we will now get a flurry of people posting "I tell it like it is I am not a fluffy bunny" well good for you and I am sure that in your real life situation everyone values you for it and you are well thought of as a giver of sage upfront advice!

Unfortunately this forum is not good with Teenagers which is a real shame because as much as the average teen can be on occasion a pain in the backside they will be the Horsemen and Women of tomorrow and surely as the Horsemen and women of today it is actually up to us to set an example.
 
Ditto what she said (Chavhorse).

I gave up on the Forum last night because of the b!tching. Nothing useful going on, all very boring. Come here to learn and to help and to support and to have a giggle. Seriously thinking of finding a more lighthearted place to spend my spare time.
 
ditto, although I didn't get involved or even read many of her threads, the one's I did read seemed to have some very bitchy replies, which is why I gave up on them I think!

When I was younger I was very arrogant, thought I knew best and if anyone dared to give me advice I certainly wouldn't have taken it. Lucky there was no HHO then ;)
What I'm trying to say is that she's young, she will grow up and it will suddenly dawn on her later on that she really didn't know as much as she thought she did...

I really don't know why people get so irate and upset, surely everyone knows what teenagers are like. We as adults should know better and take things with a pinch of salt, I know if it was me I'd have been posting all sorts of things just to wind everyone up!
 
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If people cant recognise a teenager by the tone and the diction of the postings they are pretty pathetic themselves! I totally agree with above posts.
There is a bossy hardcore faction of forum members who like to throw their weight around on here, and I think they need to grow up and not try to intimidate young people who only wish to learn.
 
I remember being 16 and my Dad saying to me:

"When I was 16 my parents didn't know anything, when I was 21 I was amazed how much they'd learnt in just 5 years"

;)
 
I'm the same age as BSJA, and I think I manage to post in a *relatively* mature manner, as well as learn a vast amount and enjoy some of the lovely people that are on this forum :) True, I've had my fair share of numpty questions - but we all need to learn somewhere! I personally don't see a problem with the actual age of a person on here, but they're 'mental' age. Take TG as an example - she's only 16 but if she hadn't pointed that out, I'd have still thought she was at least in her 20s, purely because most of the time she is very mature, considerate and generally a nice poster. She has her moments where things can slip away - but don't we all? xx
 
I didn't actually notice any posts from the lass where she was saying she knew better. There were some where she had had advice from others in RL, which she shared. She also always said thank you when people posted advice without b!tching or being nasty.

I'm still a bit in shock at how people reacted. I cannot for the life of me understand why people got so nasty and so angry. Who on this Forum has always taken the advice that has been given here? Who has always agreed with the advice given? A good number of times there is conflicting advice, so how would one know which to follow?

My musings, which will no doubt be shot down, but I'm big enough and mature enough to stick my tongue out and go nah-na-na-na-naaaaaaaaaaaah :D

*wanders off to see what is happening in the rest of the world*
 
MrsMozart said:
I didn't actually notice any posts from the lass where she was saying she knew better. There were some where she had had advice from others in RL, which she shared. She also always said thank you when people posted advice without b!tching or being nasty.

I'm still a bit in shock at how people reacted. I cannot for the life of me understand why people got so nasty and so angry. Who on this Forum has always taken the advice that has been given here? Who has always agreed with the advice given? A good number of times there is conflicting advice, so how would one know which to follow?

My musings, which will no doubt be shot down, but I'm big enough and mature enough to stick my tongue out and go nah-na-na-na-naaaaaaaaaaaah :D

*wanders off to see what is happening in the rest of the world*
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Ditto this MrsM :) She may have not seemed to like the outcome - but I don't *think* she ever said she blatantly knew better and that we could all sod off! Please don't disappear for too long though MrsM, you do seem one of the most sane on here at the moment! :p xx
 
you know what the horse world is like, if you asked 10 people what they would do about something you would get 10 different answers, with every one of those people thinking they are right, take the advice of 1 and you have upset the other 9 of them!
 
MrsMozart said:
I didn't actually notice any posts from the lass where she was saying she knew better. There were some where she had had advice from others in RL, which she shared. She also always said thank you when people posted advice without b!tching or being nasty.

I'm still a bit in shock at how people reacted. I cannot for the life of me understand why people got so nasty and so angry. Who on this Forum has always taken the advice that has been given here? Who has always agreed with the advice given? A good number of times there is conflicting advice, so how would one know which to follow?

My musings, which will no doubt be shot down, but I'm big enough and mature enough to stick my tongue out and go nah-na-na-na-naaaaaaaaaaaah :D

*wanders off to see what is happening in the rest of the world*
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like I said I didn't read hardly any of her posts, so my comment was not really directed at her, just thinking back to what I was like as a teenager
 
Im only 16, ive had some abuse before but nothing like JadeyAndLady (i think thats her?) and BSJA123!

Maybe the way i post comes across a bit more mature so people dont see me as "young" so dont use me as a easy target?? :confused:

I dont think its nessicarily a age thing, Mrs Mozart got gunned down not long ago :eek:

Maybe there should be a anger management part of the forum where they can go ??

Ill shut up now :D
 
Well just summising from what I read, some people seem to be concerned for the welfare of the animal. Regardless of age, being kind to someone should never stand in the way of a genuine welfare issue.

I don't read BSJAs posts enough to decide if thats the case, but for those who do - I hope they never put someone on UI who could potentially be causing harm or pain to their pet through ignorance, just to save the OPs feelings.

Just my tuppence worth on why people get so angry.
 
VioletStripe said:
Ditto this MrsM :) She may have not seemed to like the outcome - but I don't *think* she ever said she blatantly knew better and that we could all sod off! Please don't disappear for too long though MrsM, you do seem one of the most sane on here at the moment! :p xx
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In my defense, I gave some advice via a PM.

Part of the answer basically showed that similar advice had been given in RL, but not taken.

I hope the way I described cause and effect helped highlight what was happening at that particular moment in time. But that response made me wonder about certain posts and responses and the way advice was regarded.

Call me cynical, but there it is. On the other hand, I tried to write my responses so they weren't nasty, but still accented the importance of what I felt. I may not have come across that way, but wording is not always my strong point and I usually think of a better way of saying something about 4 hours after lol!!! I've rewritten this about 5 times already..... :)
 
montyforever said:
Im only 16, ive had some abuse before but nothing like JadeyAndLady (i think thats her?) and BSJA123!

Maybe the way i post comes across a bit more mature so people dont see me as "young" so dont use me as a easy target?? :confused:

I dont think its nessicarily a age thing, Mrs Mozart got gunned down not long ago :eek:

Maybe there should be a anger management part of the forum where they can go ??

Ill shut up now :D
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Ayee that was me :)

And until recently, since youve been saying how old you really are, i thought you were older too :D

What happened with MrsM?? :eek: I think i missed that :confused:
 
Tennessee said:
In my defense, I gave some advice via a PM.

Part of the answer basically showed that similar advice had been given in RL, but not taken.

I hope the way I described cause and effect helped highlight what was happening at that particular moment in time. But that response made me wonder about certain posts and responses and the way advice was regarded.

Call me cynical, but there it is. On the other hand, I tried to write my responses so they weren't nasty, but still accented the importance of what I felt. I may not have come across that way, but wording is not always my strong point and I usually think of a better way of saying something about 4 hours after lol!!! I've rewritten this about 5 times already..... :)
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To be fair though, some of us do like as many opinions as we can get before we stop living in denial and decide to face the music, and maybe she just didn't want to 'see'? I know I've done it! Just never with a horse involved :p

And ditto the last bit - I'm awful at articulating my thoughts! Then I realise how awful it sounds and suddenly need to edit my post :D xx
 
VioletStripe said:
Thank you :) I always thought I was a bit numpty and immature on here compared to all you lot :eek: xx
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I think I'll always feel a bit numpty and immature no matter how old I get lol!!! TBH once I got past 17 my brain seemed to stop getting older - I still think I'm a teenager now, and still feel a rather stupid and dumb sometimes. I could kick myself for some of the things I've done and said recently!!!

Oh well, off to play tennis with my ELEVEN year old son!!!!!!! :eek: (He'll be older than me soon lmao!!)
 
JadeyyAndLadyy said:
Ayee that was me :)

And until recently, since youve been saying how old you really are, i thought you were older too :D

What happened with MrsM?? :eek: I think i missed that :confused:
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Hehe, people think im older than i am normally :rolleyes:
Im different, if im with people my own age i act my age if im with older people i act older :D

No idea hehe, only read about 5 pages in! Just heard about it, im sure it was about 100 pages +:eek:
 
Kitsune said:
Well just summising from what I read, some people seem to be concerned for the welfare of the animal. Regardless of age, being kind to someone should never stand in the way of a genuine welfare issue.

I don't read BSJAs posts enough to decide if thats the case, but for those who do - I hope they never put someone on UI who could potentially be causing harm or pain to their pet through ignorance, just to save the OPs feelings.

Just my tuppence worth on why people get so angry.
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Kitty I take your point but we went through the same thing with Jadey & Ladey everyone went off like a cannon about Welfare issues and called her all the names under the sun. She had the balls to keep posting about her vet visits etc and the welfare issues were put to bed had she chosen to say "screw this" no one would ever have known if the horse was ok or not.

If people are really concerned about a welfare issue surely polite reasoned posts will have more effect rather than the witch hunt which will only have the effect of the poster saying screw this and not posting anymore. Also some of the posts I have seen re attention seeking, not taking advice, trolling, and alternate ID's have not a lot to do with welfare issues more of an inerrant dislike.
 
Being the mother of a teen who never listens to me :rolleyes: knows best, etc etc. I feel that some of the posts were down right nasty towards a 14 year old child.

But having said that. If she is asking for advice about her pony, then people will get frustrated that she never listens.

The welfare of the pony is what people are worried about, but I think they need to remember that she is a child, and I would be extremely angry if my child were ganged up on by a bunch of people who should know better.
 
sarahsum1 said:
Being the mother of a teen who never listens to me :rolleyes: knows best, etc etc. I feel that some of the posts were down right nasty towards a 14 year old child.

But having said that. If she is asking for advice about her pony, then people will get frustrated that she never listens.

The welfare of the pony is what people are worried about, but I think they need to remember that she is a child, and I would be extremely angry if my child were ganged up on by a bunch of people who should know better.
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Sarah's Mum I agree my Stepson can be the world's most annoying tit but if I thought a gang of people who are older enough to know better were ganging up on him I would be livid.
 
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