Tell me this isnt right??!!!!

sorry really not good with blood - warning next time please.

as to whether i would do it it would depend if it actually worked and what quality of life there was - didn't watch the end - feeling a tad sick!
 
This looks like total butchering- he's just making the poor b*gger bleed. The front resection in particular looks far too drastic to me.

Poor, poor pony- it foundered 4 years ago and is still in this sort of pain. He is absolutely hopping lame at the end of the vid- 8 weeks later
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As far as I am aware this is a very effective way of helping severe laminitic horses and ponies.

We had something like that done as a last resort many years ago with a pony of ours... it was pretty revolutionary at the time.
It saved his life!!
 
I didn't get the audio but going on what boss said it foundered 4 years ago! that seems an awful long time to wait. It was interesting cos I have only ever see photos of a front resection etc before.

He is lame at the end of the vid too.
 
Very interesting.....I can see the theory behind it being a medical person (although not a vet obviously)...

.....I would think after 4 years you would be willing to try anything TBH...and to me the pony looked fairly happy at the end of the vid, although no not sound but he did say it would be a long process.....
 
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.....I would think after 4 years you would be willing to try anything TBH...and to me the pony looked fairly happy at the end of the vid, although no not sound but he did say it would be a long process.....

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Yes,it would be very interisting to see the end result-did the pony ever come sound?
I also think if the next step was to PTS,I would be tempted to give it a go.
 
Sorry, didnt even think about a blood warrning!!! Sorry!!!
I think that if my horse had foundered and was walking like that (at the beginning) I would have put her out of her misery long before butchering herr foot....
Ive seen a couple of sucessful front re-sections, but never seen holes from the founder being dug out of the sole....
 
Its essentially a life saving procedure. i have seen it done, along with severing the DDFT in a broodmare who is now back in good condition and paddock sound for over 2yrss - she had her tendons severed close to 3 years ago.

I also saw a farrier start this last summer on a mare with serious acute laminitis just after foaling. She came back from the stud in terrible condition 10 days after foaling - stud owners said it had just happened 2 days earlier and they (ONLY!) gve her 10cc of Flunixin. Clearly she had been crippled for closer to 2 weeks - had to nerve block her to look at her feet as she was barely able to stand on both fore-feet let alone balance on one. Farrier decided to do it gradually over 2 days but as soon as he put pressure on the mare's sole with his thumb it pumped lood - x rays showed the bone had completely rotated downwards - vets had neer seen a worse case. Mare was nerve blocked all round and given as much pain relief as possible over night until farrier came back to see if there was anything that could be done. Also foal was less than one wek old and the owners needed a few days to try and find an alternative for him. It was decided when he farrier came back to put her to sleep but it would take 2 days for the foster mare to arrive so farrier had to paryially resect the hoof wall and apply sole pads. Mare was reassessed when the foal was fosterd but he was too far gone. Poor mare was put to sleep.
Fully in favour if the pony has a decent chance of recovery (not necessarily to work). I was quite shocked when I first saw it though!
 
The first part didn't look all that different from digging a regular abscess from the sole - so don't really have a problem with that - we have never used sedation etc to do it, and the horse pretty much sighs with relief when you hit the spot and the gunk comes out, so I don't think that part hurt him. Not sure I can say the same for dremmel on the front re-section, he looked pretty doped up and was still snatching it away, those things get very hot!
 
I only made it to 2 mins as well *feels squeezy* not very good with blood when i'mnot prepared for it....

all I can say is upto 2 mins it reminded me of when my old gelding had a big deep bruised foot and abcess and the vet cut it all out to drain *bleugh*
 
I can kind of get it...... kind of half, hmmm wonder if that really works.

I know an old theory behind getting rid of lami is bleeding to reduce pressure etc in the hoof, however that can then go the other way and destroy the lamellae in the hoof wall from lack of nutrients and oxygen etc and then u get laminitis again!

Not sure....... bit half and half.......
 
That horse should have been PTS judging from the state it was in at the beginning so if he did come sound from it, perhaps it was worth it...but frankly, I'd doubt he'd come more than light hacking sound.
 
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They severed the tendons? I don't understand how that would help. Does it have something to do with the rotation of the pedal bone?
 
After reading the threads im not even going to watch the video, but like papafrita said, hoe does severing tendons help?
 
Not going to watch the video - but have seen the procedure done in RL. Not something I would ever consider for a horse of mine - if it were that bad it would have a bullett.
 
severing of the deep digital flexor tendon or the carpal check ligament to reduce the pull on it this was suggested for a mare I used to know but PTS was decided instead This was a few years ago.

Normally done in horses with breeding potential

From wikipedia extract:

Deep Digital flexor tenotomy
Because the rotation of P3 is exacerbated by continued pull on the deep digital flexor tendon, one approach to therapy has been to cut this tendon, either in the cannon region or in the pastern region. While this technique has been criticized as being unsuccessful and invasive, its advocates claim that it is too often used in cases which are too far advanced. Advocates claim that by cutting the tendon at the right time, mechanical de-rotation of P3 is possible, which can allow time for the new laminar attachments to form
 
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That horse should have been PTS judging from the state it was in at the beginning so if he did come sound from it, perhaps it was worth it...but frankly, I'd doubt he'd come more than light hacking sound.

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My very first pony who I still have was worse than this when he got lami as a 5yo. He was extremely lame. We had a lot of remedial stuff done for him and he became sound. He even did a stint of BSJA so gentle hacking isnt always the case by any means. He's still with us 15 years later and not had lami since.

Have to say this video looks extremely brutal and I would never ever put my horse through that. Awful.
 
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