Temperature drop! Rugs?

NeverSayNever said:
doesnt matter if its winter/spring.. whatever season, because the seasons do not exist anymore. Fact is, here it may be October but its snowing, subzero temperatures and a vicious windchill. Chances are Dec/Jan could be more mild than the temps we have right now! In which case, we will rug appropriately too. You cant assume people are overrugging just because ‘its barely winter’.
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Just checked met office and the coldest temp I can find for tonight is Aberdeen - at between 0 and 2 degrees.

For me, those temps don't remotely warrant layering on duvets and heavyweights!

Mine and Cobrastyle's have been out all day naked (apart from a fleece being put on my girl in the field whilst she was sweaty after being ridden), and have both come in tonight toasty warm. Temp read 7 degrees and their was a strong cold wind too.

If it dropped to 0 and was snowing, my girl (unclipped) would be in a lightweight. If clipped, as she has been every other winter, she would possibly have a mediumweight on at that temp.

The other winter when it was -13 in the day and colder at night, she was blanket clipped, and she still only had a mediumweight stable rug with newmarket rug under.
 
Indeed, if its already -3 with windchill of -9 (like here) then why should they not have their hw's on! I don't care if its October or January, -3 is -3. In fact it's probably worse just now because full winter coat is not through yet. Mine is in a 350gm, he has a tougher 400gm for when its colder and wetter.
 
Moomin1 said:
Just checked met office and the coldest temp I can find for tonight is Aberdeen - at between 0 and 2 degrees.

For me, those temps don't remotely warrant layering on duvets and heavyweights!

Mine and Cobrastyle's have been out all day naked (apart from a fleece being put on my girl in the field whilst she was sweaty after being ridden), and have both come in tonight toasty warm. Temp read 7 degrees and their was a strong cold wind too.

If it dropped to 0 and was snowing, my girl (unclipped) would be in a lightweight. If clipped, as she has been every other winter, she would possibly have a mediumweight on at that temp.

The other winter when it was -13 in the day and colder at night, she was blanket clipped, and she still only had a mediumweight stable rug with newmarket rug under.
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i dont give a stuff what you saw on metcheck, feel free to pop up to where we are, in Aberdeenshire, where it was -5 2 mornings ago and is currently -1 but the windchill is seriously vicious!! Every horse is different also, so Im sure noone up here with their horse in a HW actually cares what anyone elses are in as long as theirs are happy. FWIW, mine is fully clipped and in a MW... however i am looking after an elderly TB and I put a 100g stable rug under her 360g HW this evening... albeit an old 360g that prob isnt that weight anymore. But she needed it, simple.

eta http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/forecast/?tab=fiveDay&fcTime=1351206000&locId=352227

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/forecast/?tab=fiveDay&fcTime=1351206000
 
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mine is in 300grm heavy combo and 350grm half neck under rug. He has half outgrown a clip...
Might seem excessive but he never sweats in the morning and he cant afford to loose any weight!
 
Catcus said:
Indeed, if its already -3 with windchill of -9 (like here) then why should they not have their hw's on! I don't care if its October or January, -3 is -3. In fact it's probably worse just now because full winter coat is not through yet. Mine is in a 350gm, he has a tougher 400gm for when its colder and wetter.
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I don't class -3 as being particularly cold. -13 is what I would class as cold enough to warrant rugging heavily (unless of course ill/old).

I just think people often judge how they should rug their horses on how the weather makes them feel.
 
Fully clipped TB in a 200gm rug, non clipped connie in fly rug (sweet itch pony) and lightweight rug to stop the boett rug being soaked!
 
Mine too is fully clipped (hunts regularly), lives out on a hill with no shelter and tonight is only luke warm in a heavy under rug (300g) plus medium turnout (200g). I am a huge fan of not over rugging and at a different tsr last year (only 15mins) down the road she was in a medium weight all winter and nothing more, this yard however is exposed!
 
NeverSayNever said:
i dont give a stuff what you saw on metcheck, feel free to pop up to where we are, in Aberdeenshire, where it was -5 2 mornings ago and is currently -1 but the windchill is seriously vicious!! Every horse is different also, so Im sure noone up here with their horse in a HW actually cares what anyone elses are in as long as theirs are happy. FWIW, mine is fully clipped and in a MW... however i am looking after an elderly TB and I put a 100g stable rug under her 360g HW this evening... albeit an old 360g that prob isnt that weight anymore. But she needed it, simple.

eta http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/forecast/?tab=fiveDay&fcTime=1351206000&locId=352227

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/forecast/?tab=fiveDay&fcTime=1351206000
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Ooh why so touchy?!!:p
 
Beans2000 said:
Moomin maybe you should accept some need rugging up!!
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I never said they don't NEED rugging up. My WB mare does get rugged up. To a sensible extent.

Putting nearly 800g of rugs on in degrees of 0 to -5, as some people have said they do in previous threads, is IMO ridiculous and completely OTT!
 
Aberdeen is -3 tonight with windchill down to -7

The local station says, not 0 - 2 degrees as someone else said.

It's was ready -2 in my car earlier today.
 
NeverSayNever said:
nope - i would judge by my horse and whether they were cold or not



let me think..... :rolleyes:
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Mmm. I honestly don't know! I suppose you are touchy because somebody disagrees with your rugging methods! :rolleyes:

FWIW, there is a yard across the road from ours, which has approx ten to fifteen pure tb's and pure arabs O/S 24/7 all year. Not one of them has ever seen a rug, hard feed, and barely gets any added forage (not that I agree with that). I have never yet seen one of them lose condition. They may drop a small amount in the depths of winter, but certainly nothing to warrant any concern.
 
NeverSayNever said:
nope - that’s ridiculous! i would judge by my horse and whether they were cold or not



let me think..... :rolleyes: and mine isnt even in a HW! People standing in judgement of others annoys me though..
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Are you not standing in judgement of my rugging views?:confused:

Surely we are all grown ups on here who can have a sensible discussion without throwing toys out of the pram when someone disagrees or challenges an opinion?
 
In Scotland, at least -2 tonight if not more and still out, albeit with a field shelter. So the unclipped one is in a 350g Amigo Hero with another 100g Amigo turnout rug on top, both with neck covers. The clipped one is in a 450g Premier Equine with neck cover, with a 200g insulater rug underneath, also with neck cover.
 
ID has a pretty rubbish winter coat - currently unclipped. Still out 24/7

Naked or rainsheet in day, LW stable rug layered with raincoat at night - upped it to lw turnout instead of raincoat tonight
 
Moomin1 said:
Are you not standing in judgement of my rugging views?:confused:

Surely we are all grown ups on here who can have a sensible discussion without throwing toys out of the pram when someone disagrees or challenges an opinion?
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no :confused: Im not standing in judgement of your rugging views. :confused: You do what you like with your horse. You were the one who went off quoting temps on met office, questioning what people had told you.
 
Mine is a portly heavy weight cob, a roughty toughty boy who is unclipped & in rugged even when we had all that snow & ice. He fluffs up lovely his coat is doing its job to keep him warm. He gets muddy all over & is in his element :) a quick brush off, hop on & ride. If he gets sweaty it's usually around his girth area I wash off with warm water, towel dry then back out he has never suffered with my way of doing things. I know this is not to everyone's liking but like everyone says each horse is different.
 
TChamp said:
cobsgalore and benson21 - I am glad you are staying brave as I am trying to do too!

Went to a talk last night and vets / farriers / nutritionists etc all say OFF WITH THE RUGS so I am trying to be strong and let his natural thermostat look after him - & his legs if he wants to warm up!

I will however stick a rainsheet on occasionaly purely to keep him dry so I can ride him.

(disclaimer - I am not saying anyone is right or wrong!!!)
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Me too - I have today put my Arab in his rainsheet for the first time, he lives out 24/7 with a field shelter, but thought he might benefit tonight from a little protection e.g. rain sheet! Thats enough for him , a very good doer.
 
Moomin1 said:
Just checked met office and the coldest temp I can find for tonight is Aberdeen - at between 0 and 2 degrees.

For me, those temps don't remotely warrant layering on duvets and heavyweights!
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Erm, I'm in central Scotland and it's already below freezing here.

I was cold even in me long johns!!! Brrrrr!!!

Pony is just about right in his MW.
 
Bob has his 100g Premier Equine with the neck on tonight as it's forecast to go down to -4 tonight :eek: He's out 24/7 but has access to a large barn with hay and there's still plenty of grass. He's not clipped yet, he's due to be given a chaser clip next week, but he doesn't have a very thick winter coat.
He hasn't had the neck on his rug up until tonight and it'll probably come off again tomorrow until after he's been clipped.
 
debsey1 said:
Mine is a portly heavy weight cob, a roughty toughty boy who is unclipped & in rugged even when we had all that snow & ice. He fluffs up lovely his coat is doing its job to keep him warm. He gets muddy all over & is in his element :) a quick brush off, hop on & ride. If he gets sweaty it's usually around his girth area I wash off with warm water, towel dry then back out he has never suffered with my way of doing things. I know this is not to everyone's liking but like everyone says each horse is different.
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Yeah I used to do this with my first pony; never had one single rug for him the whole time I had him. Used to rush home from school, clear space for the saddle, hop on and go when time was short and the evenings pulled in. He thrived on it, was never sick or sorry not even once in his life, bless him.
 
My three are all in at night - unclipped but thin skinned WB in a 300g stable rug, and the two hairy thoroughbreds in nice thick Comfort Zone lapel fleeces. All seem warm and happy and if the temperature rises I shall rethink.
 
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