Tendon support wraps?

[JillA]

Instead of bandages and Gamgee/fybagee? Reg (ex chaser) lamed himself being a prat in the poached field a couple of weeks ago He responded well to box rest and bandaging but now he needs to go out and mooch in a paddock (away from the other hooligans!!) SO can anyone recommend some wraps that will give him the support but survive the wet going? Swelling is just above the fetlock and did go down well while he was wearing bandages but he just can't in the wet.

 

[ester]

nothing supports, it's just not possible with horse anatomy they might help the filling though but that might improve out when moving about? We've used the equilibrium hardy chaps but for other reasons.

 

[bonny]

Like Ester says, nothing will support the tendons and trying to do that could well cause harm. I would just turn the horse out and not worry about the wet.

 

[JillA]

You really are clever at diagnosing the problem without even seeing the horse. Yes, you can support tendons, as you do with pressure bandages, and no, I didn't ask for treatment plans. Thank you - H&H strikes again

 

[bonny]

You really are clever at diagnosing the problem without even seeing the horse. Yes, you can support tendons, as you do with pressure bandages, and no, I didn't ask for treatment plans. Thank you - H&H strikes again

Who diagnosed the problem ? We answered your question about turning out with wraps ! If you know all the answers then what’s the problem ?

 

[Tiddlypom]

What is the original injury? Has it scanned clear now? Knowing that would help folk to make informed suggestions as to what support or protection, if any, may help in the field.

 

[ester]

You really are clever at diagnosing the problem without even seeing the horse. Yes, you can support tendons, as you do with pressure bandages, and no, I didn't ask for treatment plans. Thank you - H&H strikes again

Please link the scientific research paper that proves this claim for the lower limb.

Please don't get narky at people who were trying to be both helpful and scientific at the same time with only the information you chose to post. It's really not very nice.

 

[ester]

Oh there is of course the one with the hinges that limits movement but I'm not sure it is suitable for turnout and doesn't do what stable bandages do.

 

[Leo Walker]

Why cant people accept that what they believe might not be true just because thats their opinion. I just dont get it! A lame horse with a swelling needs scanning, theres been numerous posts on here over the years about very minor swellings that turn out to be quite serious injuries. Milliepops being the most recent one I remember. Turning an older horse out onto mud with something serious could end up being catastrophic, obviously it might not but thats a fairly big risk to be taking.

 

[JillA]

I think that after 55 years living and working with horses I might be able to tell the difference between minor injuries and major trauma.
Unsolicited advice is both rude and patronising - and counterproductive and dangerous. It gets people's backs up and is very rarely in full possession of the facts. I NEVER offer advice without asking first - not a common politeness in the superior and all knowing current society of horse people, but necessary to help when it is needed.

 

[ester]

So what did you want?

 

[Elf On A Shelf]

Nothing will give support in the field. Pretection yes but not support.

A socking big robert jones bandage applied correctly will support but will get bogging in the field and end up doing more harm than good - even if you do wrap it in clingfilm!

 

[Starzaan]

I am so confused...
You posted on a forum asking for advice, but you don’t actually want advice ?‍?
posters have given you excellent advice - you CAN’T support tendons with anything other than a correctly applied Robert Jones bandage, and I doubt anyone want that on their horses in the field.
My mother grew up in Singapore with horses, at a time when blood-letting was still used to treat all sorts of things. I’m so glad she is a gracious enough human being to accept that times change, medical and veterinary advances are made, and that with horses the beauty is you never stop learning. Surprisingly, she hasn’t once suggested we use this treatment on any of my horses over the last thirty something years, because she has learned that the information is outdated.

I am baffled by some people in the equestrian world.

 

[ester]

and an RJ is also not an equivalent to bandages and gamgee that the OP as looking for so I am also, confused.

 

[Tiddlypom]

I’m confused. What I have learnt over many years is that small, insignificant looking external swellings over a tendon or ligament can be the warning of major damage underneath. This is where scanning is so useful, as it can tell you just what’s lurking underneath. I’ve had experienced vets looking quite shocked at what’s revealed after a scan on a ‘minor’ injury, I’d always rather know. Though it’s still not clear if this injury has been scanned?

 

[milliepops]

I’m confused. What I have learnt over many years is that small, insignificant looking external swellings over a tendon or ligament can be the warning of major damage underneath. This is where scanning is so useful, as it can tell you just what’s lurking underneath. I’ve had experienced vets looking quite shocked at what’s revealed after a scan on a ‘minor’ injury, I’d always rather know. Though it’s still not clear if this injury has been scanned?

Yup
Mine wasn't lame at all but I know her legs and I knew the slight puffiness wasn't right. It took the lameness specialist at my horspital 2 goes to find her injury (SDFT) and even then he was amazed that she didnt even flinch when the lesion was pinched. Its healed really well but it's not a recovery I'd have been able to track with any certainty without scanning.

 

[hopscotch bandit]

I had the vet out to my horses suspensory branch problem at the start but every now and then in the field she will reinjure it and it will present as warm. As this is an old injury i save myself a vets visit as i will just be advised on what i already do which is to treat with ice boots, ice vibe, ice cups, hosing and bute. If it were a new injury i would treat the same for a few days and then call the vet. Its not worth calling the vet for a scan until the swelling has subsided as they will only have to come back. It was my vet that advised that the only thing to prevent a strained tendon was a plaster cast! There is nothing on the market to negate against this.

My physio said that turnout boots are not advisable these days due to the risk of overheating the tendon. The x.c air boots of which i had a full set of (forget the name) were the next best thing as they allowed airflow around the tendon. Mine has a suspensory branch calcification and these boots dont go that low.

To be honest everyone has their own opinion on how to best treat an injury and just because it doesnt agree with everyones elses doesnt mean to say it is less valid.

 

[mustardsmum]

Nothing supports a tendon injury- I asked the same question a while back about sports medicine boots. I ended up reading extensively about it and the anatomy of the leg cannot be “supported” as such. Plus the added heat around the tendons can cause further problems. My horse also had a small swelling, came sound after a day or so. After several weeks box rest got it rescanned-check ligament had developed a hole and we have spent a year slowly rehabbing. this was also a field injury and initially I thought she would be off for a month or so. Years ago, we didn’t have the benefits if mobile ultrasound scans. For £150 - it’s worth scanning to check the recovery and progress of the injury to ensure as best a recovery as possible. Good luck - I hope your horse is ok and he has a good recovery.