Tenessee Walking Horse cruelty
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RutlandH2O
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I haven't watched the video, but it's a national scandal in the US. Apparently, in 2006, I think,
at their big national show, all the horses were going to be examined for soring before they could be exhibited. Virtually every entrant pulled out, and we're talking numbers in the hundreds. These people are a sub-culture of scum.
at their big national show, all the horses were going to be examined for soring before they could be exhibited. Virtually every entrant pulled out, and we're talking numbers in the hundreds. These people are a sub-culture of scum.
Imogen_
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I took the video with a pinch of salt, hoping it's not as bad as it appears. But oh my!
Wagtail
Horse servant
Disgusting. It is not the only place where the Americans are cruel though. Rodeos, Arab showing...
TicTac
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Well it certainly wasn't ' put on'! Yes actually it is as bad as that.
tallyho!
Following a strict mediterranean diet...
This video is now 4 yrs old. It is the worst cruelty, does anyone have any info that is current?
Montyforever
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Poor horses 
dominobrown
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There will be someone come on here telling us all that is not cruel, its the breed, how things are done, how thing have always been done, tradition, you get the picture.
The way of going of these horses (which is partly due to its breeding yes) is exaggerated to a point when no way can any of those horses can be comfortable. If they knew (or cared) about the bio-mechanics of the horse, sitting where they do and the head carriage etc they would know how un-nautrual it is.
The way of going of these horses (which is partly due to its breeding yes) is exaggerated to a point when no way can any of those horses can be comfortable. If they knew (or cared) about the bio-mechanics of the horse, sitting where they do and the head carriage etc they would know how un-nautrual it is.
Jake10
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Not sure how true/factual this site is (only glanced at it) http://forthetnwalkinghorse.blogspot.co.uk/
MiCsarah
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There was a big thing on this not so long ago with lots of videos and opinions
RutlandH2O
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It's all TRUE!!! This is what's going on every moment of every day.
Imogen_
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All for money I'm assuming? Amazing what people get away with.
amandap
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Isn't it just.
Soring etc. is illegal but money and prestige will always win out where humans are concerned.
There are many (traditional) practices in UK and Europe not far behind...
Enfys
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Sorry Wagtail
but that is tarring an entire equestrian nation with one brush A bit like saying all Brits are .... well, whatever it is that Brits are supposed to be The Arabian showing world, and not just Arabians, is just as bad in the UK and Europe. Not only have I heard the rumours, I have seen the fact (yes, on British showgrounds, darkened stables, whip shy horses, weighted shoes, gingering...it happens)
Rodeos, yes there are bad ones, of course. Government sponsored prison ones are astonishingly awful surprisingly enough.
ORA and RAM the two organisations that my Boarders' horses compete in (and win, one won the Breakaway Roping Finals with a 2.3 run) are very strictly controlled. I love rodeo and everything that goes with it, but I am not blind and would make a great deal of noise about cruelty if I saw it.
The Walking Horse thing, well yes, it looks frightful, money talks sadly, the atrocities still continue despite so much publicity and work towards regulating it. Shame that PETA can't put their money where their mouth is and throw their not inconsiderable weight behind something that really needs sorting out, but they never will because they think horse riding should be banned.
JingleTingle
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The link to the blogspot is a very good indicator of where the USA is with this at this moment in time. It is still far too little far too late IMO.
But I have to say I have many friends in the States with TWHs and they would no more dream of abusing their beautiful horses in this way than fly to the moon. A lot of them are very active in attempting to end this cruelty and suffering, but it is a very big money 'sport' and sadly big money talks in almost every corner of the world, not just America.
But I have to say I have many friends in the States with TWHs and they would no more dream of abusing their beautiful horses in this way than fly to the moon. A lot of them are very active in attempting to end this cruelty and suffering, but it is a very big money 'sport' and sadly big money talks in almost every corner of the world, not just America.
devonlass
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That is quite possibly one of the most ridiculous and unattractive looking spectacle I have ever seen involving horses.Why on earth would anyone even want their horse to do that,let alone risk charges of cruelty and their animals health for it??!!
Absolutely mind boggling and disgraceful.Why don't they just ban the chains and shoe things on their feet altogether??.Would at least reduce the risk of extra aggrevation to the skin and would make it less easy to hide this barbaric soring practice.
It never ceases to amaze me how little regard some people have for their animals well being in comparison to their own shallow ambition.
Absolutely mind boggling and disgraceful.Why don't they just ban the chains and shoe things on their feet altogether??.Would at least reduce the risk of extra aggrevation to the skin and would make it less easy to hide this barbaric soring practice.
It never ceases to amaze me how little regard some people have for their animals well being in comparison to their own shallow ambition.
Parker79
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How disgusting - I didn't know about this...some people are utterly disgusting! I know its a different subject...but I fail to believe that I could ever be convinced that a Rodeo is not cruel...animals stressed to the max....I know some of it is skillful riding..such as barrel racing...but the 'breaking' or calf roping etc etc...you will never convince me.
amandap
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They start them young too... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuqN9n4RF4Y
ps. As has been pointed out most TWH owners are fighting to get this stopped. The worst offenders are known as Big Lick.
ps. As has been pointed out most TWH owners are fighting to get this stopped. The worst offenders are known as Big Lick.
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EAST KENT
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Never mind the appalling pain in the front end..they are bringing their hindquarters as far forward as possible to relieve the front pain.Just as a laminitic pony will do in the field..except we do not ask it to work.Dreadful cruelty,amazed it is allowed at all.
Sometimes I wonder whatever possesses people to go to these extremes.
Sometimes I wonder whatever possesses people to go to these extremes.
rhino
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What, who wouldn't want a horse that moved like this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGWyH3uL9LE&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGWyH3uL9LE&feature=player_embedded
FionaM12
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Sorry Wagtail
I'm not sure I agree. Wagtail said "It is not the only place where the Americans are cruel though" and gave some examples. That's not quite the same as saying all American equestrians are cruel, IMO.
FionaM12
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What, who wouldn't want a horse that moved like this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGWyH3uL9LE&feature=player_embedded
Comments and ratings have been disabled. Gosh I wonder why?
SusannaF
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I have a daily Google alert for "horse" and TWH stories and happenings related to this stuff turn up on a regular basis - once a fortnight (roughly).
Shantara
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They look like deformed hyenas.
Madam Min
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Its horrid! Isn't it in aim of a so called fashion called "The big lick"?
Isn't it in aim of a so called fashion called "The big lick"?Hairy Old Cob
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American Welfare Standards are far Behind Ours.
Oberon
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I had a rant about this in Jan
The TWH society are making a show of getting on top of soring. But the funding is low and the number of inspectors is a handful to the whole of the US
Interesting there isn't the funding for more inspectors - yet there is plenty to go for prize money
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Inspectors pic up on practices like hollowing the hoof pads and filling them with nails to make the horse more elevated
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Beside soring - the tragedy of what is happening to these poor horse's hooves hits me personally
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If anyone doubts the effect that hoof pain has on body pain and vice versa - should cop a load of this pic.
That is a horse in misery
The TWH society are making a show of getting on top of soring. But the funding is low and the number of inspectors is a handful to the whole of the US
Interesting there isn't the funding for more inspectors - yet there is plenty to go for prize money
Inspectors pic up on practices like hollowing the hoof pads and filling them with nails to make the horse more elevated
Beside soring - the tragedy of what is happening to these poor horse's hooves hits me personally
If anyone doubts the effect that hoof pain has on body pain and vice versa - should cop a load of this pic.
That is a horse in misery
Wagtail
Horse servant
You are right Fiona.
Enfys
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FionaM12
I'm not sure I agree. Wagtail said "It is not the only place where the Americans are cruel though" and gave some examples. That's not quite the same as saying all American equestrians are cruel, IMO.
You are right Fiona.
... and I agreed, and then gave examples where the British are what could be seen as cruel also, no one is perfect.
I am not condoning the soring practices at all, just saying that the British aren't as pure white as they'd like to be seen as - hmmm, who was it that had a whacking great hand in the slave trade pot? Oh yes, the good old Brits
Originally Posted by FionaM12
I'm not sure I agree. Wagtail said "It is not the only place where the Americans are cruel though" and gave some examples. That's not quite the same as saying all American equestrians are cruel, IMO.
You are right Fiona.
... and I agreed, and then gave examples where the British are what could be seen as cruel also, no one is perfect.
I am not condoning the soring practices at all, just saying that the British aren't as pure white as they'd like to be seen as - hmmm, who was it that had a whacking great hand in the slave trade pot? Oh yes, the good old Brits
devonlass
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Inspectors pic up on practices like hollowing the hoof pads and filling them with nails to make the horse more elevated.
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Please tell me that isn't genuine,and that it doesn't work how I think it works,good lord words fail me.
I hope someone strung up the person that the horse in question belongs to
I am not a violent person,but I could quite easily make an exception for some of the people involved in this barbaric practice.