Terriers... Patterdale ones!

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I haven't had one before, but have a cross bred coming on trial this weekend.

Potted history- she was removed from someone who bought her as a chihuahua unregistered, then didn't know what to do with her when it transpired she was terrier cross and had lots of energy and a voice... She's been rehabbed and speyed with a very good firm and fair experienced owner and is ready for a new home- she's 8 months and has basic training in place.

I'm hoping (as long as she copes with my very dog proof cats- one of whom is larger than she is!!) that she'll mak an energetic pet/wagon dog/potential gun dog as BF's shoot works some woods with VERY close cover that the cockers can't fit in so they run a few terriers in the beating team.

So...!

Any experience/training tips?

Thanks in advance x
 
i love them they can be great dogs, have the rescue tested her with cats and other dogs?

my cousin had 4 and one of them was great but the others were always to be watched, they were a real pack and unfortunatley never walked which i am sure contributed to some of the unwanted behaviour they displayed. she only has 2 now and still not walked but with 2 gone they are different dogs a lot more truatworthy
 
My daughter had a patt x lakeland. Hmmmm, killing machine springs to mind, lovely with people but anything else that moved was fair game. If you took him off the lead he would go off hunting. recall.....think he may have been deaf?
He was rehomed to someone who didn't have sheep, pheasants, cats, other dogs. It is a working home so hopefully he will be in his element.
 
one of my cousins patts used to come beating and was always good fantastic recal, there was another patt beating too and she was good except for the day she set about my dog, i do agree with the killing machine thing for most of them which is why i ask if the rescue have cat/dog tested her.

my cousins lived with cats for 4yrs before they killed one of the ones that lived with them, they also killed her greyhound when it went of its legs by starting to eat her, but thats another story and i dont entirely blame the dogs in that case
 
I would only add, killing machines with an obsessive bent! Rather a "Hail fellow, well met" attitide which means that they are friends with all the world -- until crossed! Then, if the one who crosses the line is a cat, all cats must die!

I used to breed them (for work) and sold one to an old couple who assured me they'd had them before and the family cat would be safe. They returned a year later just to let me know the pup was fine -- and the cat was still alive. (Presumably that was one that had not crossed the line!:D).
 
We have a rough-coated Patterdale bitch, she lives with cats and a house rabbit and three guinea pigs. She can be very opinionated with other dogs, any play has to be on her terms or there is a lot of 'shouting' but give her a ball and the world around her might as well not be there :) I find that as long as she's had a good walk, with lots of off-lead running around she's happy to lie about the house sleeping or chewing her stag bar. I used a clicker to train her, she took to it very quickly.
All in all she's a great wee dog and I hope she stays that way!
 
They are as tough as old boots, have a mind of their own, selective hearing and are good killing machines!

My patterdale is nearly 16, I've had him since a puppy and he has been a fantastic but frustrating dog. We had problems with him running off (even if we'd walked him for miles!!) and he also had separation anxiety for a few years before he finally settled down.

A couple of months ago my little man went missing for four days, I was convinced he was dead but miraculously I managed to find him stuck under a tree about a mile from home. It took 6 fire men 3 hours to rescue him as he was well and truly stuck, would never have got out on his own. He nearly died during the rescue (the vets were amazed he'd even survived the 4 days!) and took a long time to recover (infection, tick infestation and broken ribs) but thankfully he is still with us and seems to be 'almost' back to normal (although his sight and hearing have been affected). Yesterday he was running around playing with some other dogs :D
My advice to anyone taking on a patterdale would be to be prepared to have them around for a while, have them insured and attach a tracking device to them :p

Regarding cats, we have 4. All new cats are introduced to our patterdale over a number of days/weeks until he eventually accepts them. Any cats that are not our own had better watch out as despite living with cats for his whole life he is still on a mission to kill any that he doesn't know!
 
I thought my other dogs were stubborn and obsessive until I met my pat,
Mini example I took his tennis ball off him last night and put it in a cupboard. He spent all evening staring at the cupboard and trying to open it. Woke up this morning, let him out – yup straight to the cupboard to start again. Seriously I had forgotten all about it! Not him. Also I can’t put things in drawers as he can open them. Only in cupboards that click and lock!
He’s sneaky, conniving, can figure his way out of any problem and has his own opinions about everything.

He is also a delight, hilarious, active, clever and loves people and everyone he meets he wins over (in a calculated conniving way:D)
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Just like to add to my previous post that I've kept (a lot) of working dogs all my life, none in the house until the current GSD from working stock, and if I wanted another dog in the house I'd probably have a Patterdale. At least, they are a decent size for a house dog and wouldn't keep pushing me out of a double bed like this bloody GSD!!!!:D How is it I always end up on the last six inches of edge?? I'm told it's because she's female, so probably a male P might be better....:rolleyes:
 
Thanks guys, I'm proceeding with caution with the cats- she's about the same size as Vladcat, so will hopefully see him less as a target- he weighs twice as much as she does!

She's toy obsesssed rather than food obsessed and I'm intending on clicker training and doggy classes to get her out and about, maybe(!) some agility or similar.

Will keep you posted!
 
Not for the faint hearted and NOT for anyone who has not atleast owned a terrier before, my last few months in rescue have been spent working with patterdales......I would never ever own one, they are certainly effective killing machines as suggested, the ones I have dealt with have been clever in a very cunning way esp the bitch I had here) she has been homed last week for the 2nd time from rescue and so far the feedback is "challenging but growing on us" and these are folk who have owned patterdales for years:rolleyes: I have to be honest and admit (here) the dog was a star, although she had attacked dogs and was keen to kill anything moving, she happy curled up in my cats bed and was at the bottom of my pack, however she got away with NOTHING when she arrived in my house! (she knew the minute) I left her presence and the little git turned into the devil, infact the 1st home she went to rang me proclaiming the cute terrier she too was indeed a tazmanian devil;):D so back to me she came:p
The energy levels of this particular patterdale where also extraudinory (she out ran any other dog OH has ever had out on a bike inc huskies. When he stops getting pulled he knows the dog is wearing out, this patterdale never stopped pulling at all (as little as she was):D

I sat with both homes for over 2 hours explaining her behaviours before she came to me (but beacuse she looked cute) and she was an angel in my presence and with my dogs and cats and off lead they laughed off my warnings:rolleyes: (I had the last laugh):D
 
Mum and dad have got one and she's great. They rehomed her from a guy that wanted a dog he could take to work - he was a painter and so she sat in his van all day wtf :confused:
She's very possesive and if the other dog has a toy Cass wants it. 3 beds, 2 dogs, yep Cass wants the one that Scamps in. She's a real killing machine, she's had two hedgehogs this year :( the second one mum actually broke the washing up bowl on her trying to get her to stop. She doesn't normally assault the dog but it she thought chucking a bowl of water would shock her into stopping - it didn't)
The only major problem is that she's a bolter - if she gets out she's gone. She's great on the lead and up the woods but if she gets out the garden thats it.
 
Ahh yes, hedgehogs are no match for a patterdales jaw :(

My patterdale chewed through a mains cable on more then one occasion, has been stuck down countless holes and nearly shot a fair few times! Good job I love him :D
 
I had to collect a patterdale at 11pm at night as the lady was mortified that he had "killed a hedgehog":rolleyes: she said she had never seen a dog murder another animals in such a way.:rolleyes:
He did rip it apart but come on.....:rolleyes:its a bladdy terrier. I was livid having to collect him as she was so histerical, OH said it was probably a "broom head":D:D:D that cheered me back up again:p
 
We have one and I'd never have another :D He is food and toy possessive, is always looking to kill furries - I'd never trust him with a cat. He has a real temper - can go from cuddles and lovely to growling and snapping in an instant. He cannot be trusted with other male dogs and has been seen to bully elderly dogs and puppies. My two females aren't too keen on him as he isn't very relaxing to be around. He is very clever and knows all the commands, but will only "perform" for treats. He just isn't biddable in the same way as all the other dogs I ever had, everything has to be on his terms. I wouldn't recommend them as pets, I think they can get bored as they have such sharp brains.
 
i take my neighbours patterdale x JRT down to my yard as shes's bezzies with my dog & they have free run of the place to play together. Shes an absolute sweetheart, greedy but not possessive over food. she's a very submissive dog both with me and with my dog. if i tell her off (not shouting, just a firm 'no' ) she practically curls herself inside out and crabwalks to me with head down. If i do same with my dog (PRT) he just looks at me with a 'what?? im not even doing anything' look and carries on.

Shes a demon for squirrels and sits watching for them coming onto the yard. She will try to chase 'strange' cats yet is very gentle with mine and even sleeps with him sometimes. Shes intrigued by the chickens but has never tried to harm one, unlike mine
She's great with my 2 minis
Her recall was non-existent (due to owner not bothering with any training whatsoever) but iv been working on it and shes greatly improved and is now at the stage where i can let her off lead in the wood and she will come back immediately when called.
Dont think shes come across a hedgehog yet

i guess with a X theres a bit of luck of the draw

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Thanks mogg, and everyone else! The hope is that the cross with a toy breed may mean she's not bothered- but we're starting very carefully this evening and we'll see how she goes. If its a no, she goes back and will be rehomed as not cat safe... And the lady who is regaining her is a sensible type- she'll keep her as long as needed until the right home comes up if I'm not it.
 
Aww you'll never get a more loyal dog than a pat. But yes, for the more experienced home. Would never dare house mine with cats, they are indeed efficient killing machines and can run for days! 8-)
 
Ps talking of tough. Mine got run over by a car the other week. Ran full pelt at it out of our driveway (we are on a farm), hit the side went under the car, rolled over, screamed and ran off. I thought he's either dead or broken his back. Nope, perfectly ok apart from one small scrape (hadn't even broken the skin) and trotted off wanting his walk! Not even stiff or lame the next day! Now that's tough.
 
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