Terrorised by brats - Help!

juliehannah58

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This is my first ever rant in two years on here, but really need to let off some steam.

Last night I out for a hack, now as I have no facilities at home at all, I tend to hack everyday (as I need to hack out to get to a local school etc etc). All of the riding round here is on roads, I have nowhere off road to ride at all and although it’s a ruralish village, it’s getting more and more busy and there are new house being build all over- so all in all it’s a pretty awful place to try and hack out around at the best of times. My new horse is pretty good hacking out (as I always have to go alone) and is excellent in traffic.

Anyway, last night I had got off the main road onto one of the quite lanes and all was well until I was approaching a house surrounded by a huge hedge. There was all this banging and shouting and a few kids were kicking a dustbin around behind this hedge. Chloe was a bit spooked by this point as we could hear all this noise but not see anything, so I shouted to them (very politely!) if they would mind being a bit quieter just while I walked past. The response I got was no, even when I said ‘Please!’ to which they ran up to us with their tee-shirts over their heads screaming, waving their arms about, absolutely freaking my horse out. I told them how dangerous it was and said they wouldn’t find it so funny when I tell their parents later, to which I got more abuse hurled at me. Managed to get her past although she was terrified and they were still screaming at her and running at her. Then, just when I thought it was over then jumped on their bikes and raced after us (at a distance but they kept charging round corners behind us making my horse shoot forwards). We got a bit away and there were some dog walkers parked up and they seemed to stop following us by this point.

Now I was absolutely stuffed and quite shaken TBH, as my horse was now a nervous wreck and scared of her own shadow – and the only way to get back home was to come back on myself!! In the end I had to phone my OH and get him to drive down and meet me so he could walk back through with me as I knew they would be waiting there. Sure enough, when we walked past one of them sprang out of a dustbin frightening the cr*p out of all of us – the other two appeared and took one look at my OH (dreadlocks and head to toe in tattoo’s – LOL!) and legged it, but still popping up every few yards shouting abuse.

WTF.
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What do I do? These kids were about 12 yrs old I guess, parents no where to be seen for the 10mins I spent being terrorised outside the house. I’m guessing that’s where they live but no 100% sure as there are other houses in the area. There are only 3 lanes to ride down – if I can’t go there again it’s going to be a real problem for me. My horse was so frightened by it, god knows whether she’ll even want to go down there again.

Do I go and knock on the door and face getting similar abuse from their parents (might not even be the right house) ??

Do I report it to the police as anti-social behaviour?

Or do I forget about it and try not to ride there again? :-(

Can’t help but think how nice the village used to be, I’ve kept my horses here for over 10 years. It’s hard enough to deal with the traffic, but getting terrorized by little brats is taking the mick.
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Sounds silly really, but I couldn’t sleep last night for worrying about it!

Advice please
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Oh god, what a night mare. To be honest I would just go to the police and hope they will go talk to the parents for you, save you getting abuse if they are as bad as the children. Hopefully the police will take it seriously as it was very dangerous and irresponsible behaviour. I definatly wouldn't not do anything about it as someone else on a less behaved horse than your own may end up in a much worse circumtance than you in the future as a result of their behaviour.
 
Ruddy hell what little pigs. I would report it to the police. They could have caused a serious accident.
Hope you get it sorted, keep us posted.
 
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Very not amused

I wuld suggest bringing a schooling whip and giving them what for but im sure theres laws against that..
 
i would go to the police, it is not acceptable behaviour, the sooner it stops the better, otherwise you really will have limited hacking, and they could do the same to another rider.
 
I like Tinkerbee's idea - I'm sure you'd get away with it too!
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'There were some young hooligans chasing me and yelling abuse, so I flicked my whip at them to encourage them to leave me alone.'
 
call the police and the ILPH

what those kids did amounts to animal abuse under the new act I would think

criminal record if they are charged
 
Yes, I think I have to report it, does it matter that i'm not sure where they live? It's one of about 3 houses but does that matter?

Horrible to think about it but I would rather not get too involved with people like that as my horses are stabled so close *shudder* don't even want to think about that really....
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I'm a police officer, ring up report it as a public order offence namely 'Section 5 of the Public Order Act as they caused you harassment, alarm and distress'. Insist they (quote) 'raise it as a crime and take positive action'. The local beat officer may be the best person to deal. Can't promise they will treat it as a priority but I would defo allocate my officers to a job like this. You will have to make a witness statement and be able to describe the little sods clear enough to identify them for any positive action to be taken. Good luck. Ps I wouldnt recommend going round there yourself despite your OH sounding handy!! Would be the best way to sort it out years ago but unfortunately times have changed and we're not allowed to defend ourselves in this country anymore (rant).
 
I would try to see parents first & explain calmly about the dangers of brats behaviour,pointing out that one of the little darlings may get injured.You may be pleasantly surprised,I would be furious if one of mine acted in this way & it certainly wouldnt happen again (they would be dead),but I might resent the police being called without having had the chance to resolve the situation myself. If this fails def call the police.
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God, that's a tricky one.

I ride past a housing estate and all the kids used to come running shouting 'horsey horsey'. Luckily they were all under 10yrs old and I was able to talk them round to being nice by saying that horses got easily frightened by people running at them and were scared of loud noises, and that they sometimes tried to run over the kids that scared them, so would they mind not running at me and shouting!

I said sensible kids could, one at a time come and stroke her if they wanted to, and once we'd broken the ice, I didn't get any trouble after that.

If I were you I'd call the Police though and lay it on thick that you thought your horse might crush the kids. East Sussex Police were really good when a friend of mine was riding down a lane and a car came up behind her and hooted, causing the horse to leap and her fall off. She got the blokes Reg number and reported it and the Police gave him a caution and made him write an apology!

In the meantime, I'd carry on taking your horse on the same route, but get off and lead it past those houses unless you think you'd struggle to hold your horse on foot if the kids did it again.

The bloody-minded side of me would go and ride across the lawn of the house they came out of and say, sorry, your kids terrified my horse!
 
Hmmm this is a dificult one as your horses are stabled so close i would worry that any kind of conflict would result in some type of revenge!!!

The last time kids were confronted at our old yard they came back with pellet guns and started shotting the horses resulting in a vets bill for one owner!!!

I think that i would report it to the police so that they have a note of it on file and if it continues then ask for an officer to go round and talk to the parents.

In the meantime i think i would get someone to walk with me, or drive behind me whenever i had to ride down that road.

Eventually the kids will get bored of not getting a reaction and cause trouble somewhere else but just make sure the police are aware if it continues to happen in which case something will need to be done.
 
With brats today you are best to not talk to them. Ever.

I found 3 girls in our copse, and I explained it was our pet cementary and it wasn't on the footpath

Went into the copse a few weeks later to find my newly buried labrador & fur spread all over the place, as you can imagine I was extremely distressed and couldn't believe they had moved 6 breeze blocks and brought a shovel.

Now I just tell the little f*ckers to get off my land or I'll ring the police and I get my mobile out to start....
 
Thinking outside the box... you could always offer to give one or two of them a ride... then lead them round in a school for a bit.
 
Some kids are awful, but it is worth trying to be nice first, as they are not all bad. If you live in a built up area they are most likely not used to horses or animals so don't know any better. It might be worth pulling up in a quiet spot and calling them over, explaining to them that scaring the horse could cause it to jump in front of traffic and that you and/or the horse plus a driver could be seriously injured. I find if I ask them nicely and explain why they are usually ok.

Failing that, take a big stick with you next time and beat the little monsters into shape! (Or call the police... )
 
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I can see where you are coming from but considering my horse is a beautiful hot blood 7yr old showjumper - that is never going to happen! I wouldn't let any kid get on her let alone them.

They were not the kind of kids you could talk to really, most in the village are a pleasure, even the lads. It's a rural community and there are over 100 horses in a village that's bearly 2 miles square, so they are well used to horses riding out.

I don't want it to get personal so I am going to inform the police - it's what they are there for after all and if it was a young child on not such a good horse, or a car was trying to get past the situation could have turned into an awful accident. I'm absolutely seething about it TBH, and I want the children to realise what they could have caused. I did try and reason with them at the time, but all i got was abuse back. The fact they were waiting to do it to me again on the way home just shocked me to be honest - how dare they. I would not have dreamt of doing that as a child and if I saw my friends doing it I would have told them to pack it in.

If it was an estate or something it would be a bit different, but we are talking a very quiet horsey area.
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Well I was fairly irrational at first and did tell neighbourhood watch, but not the police.

However neighbourhood watch told the police and they came round to see us as the girls had been seen handing around in a bigger group at the churchyard and everyone was concerned they were going to move on to digging up humans.

I know there are some good kids out there, but there are some really nasty ones that don't have respect for anyone, I've learnt not to rationalise or try an reason with them the hard way.
 
Cotswold - that is truely sick!!! What a horrible thing to happen!

JH58 - most definately report it to the police (I am glad to read that you are going to). Hopefully having the police turn up on their door step with frighten the little buggers! Don't worry if you don't know exactly where all of them live. i bet the neighbours will know them!!
 
We've had similar problems, verbal abuse being hurled at us, bottle and firework throwing at horses and riders, once causing my horse to bolt into the main road and the same three boys often race past us on their bikes screaming and skidding up behind. If you ask them to stop they become worse and get abusive, we've tried talking to the parents (you can see why the kids are like it
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Kids like this should be made to ride a nervous horse while we all jump out the bushes and scare it!! Let them experience the horses' terror!
 
When we first moved to where we are in the centre of a council estate the lovely children had a reputation for throwing bottles at the horses when you went past.

Anyway we let them stroke them and they then found it a bit harder to lob missiles at something that had a name. Personally I never had any problem with them . If I get beseiged by kids now i just tell them that my horse bites and no they can't stroke him.

I would let them pat him and say that he's very afraid of loud noises etc and they will catch on and give it up
 
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