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For spoiling this Wednesday's telecast of the World Cup. I came straight to this forum (which is set as one of my favourite pages), and out the corner of my eye, I spotted your news flash which wonderfully announced who the winner was. It is like someone telling you how a programme of film ends BEFORE you have seen it.

Surely to goodness you could keep such results to the dedicated page for anyone wishing to find out who has won what. Revealing results of something which has yet to be televised is not on. The IMDB are very strict when it comes to spoilers and I have had quite a number of threads (in their entirety) removed because of them. Too bad this courtesy has not extended to here.

This is not the first time you have done this. You have ruined a great many SJ/dressage and eventing programmes.

Please STOP it!!!!
 
No WAY they showed the results of the world cup on an equestrian forum!!! I'm shocked!! Actually I'm not. SJing is not just about the winner, it's about every round ridden to get to the end. I can't believe that knowing who won has ruined the whole thing for you.
 
My goodness - that is appauling. How dare they post such things... HHO, you really must learn.....

Here's a plan - use your own brain (just a smidge, don't over do it) and don't log on until you've watched said programme.

Problem solved.

Gosh, my intelligence astounds even me sometimes :D
 
PapaFrita said:
No WAY they showed the results of the world cup on an equestrian forum!!! I'm shocked!! Actually I'm not. SJing is not just about the winner, it's about every round ridden to get to the end. I can't believe that knowing who won has ruined the whole thing for you.
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It TOTALLY has!!!! I also knew who won the first round in Oslo (again thanks to H&H) and there was NO suspense or excitement at all during the jump-off.

As well as the IMDB frowning upon spoilers, there is a cult magazine that has a sealed section especially for them. It will also warn you in advance if there is a spoiler in an article. There is a Scottish news programme that will tell you to look away when football results come up on screen (if the matches have yet to be shown). Quite a few other shows and magazines have similar protocols when it comes to possibly spoiling your viewing pleasure.

Of course H&H does not care about things like this. It is so caught up in its own agenda that it will not see things differently.

How would you like it if somebody told you how the book you were reading ended? It is the exact same thing here.
 
Ditto Over2You, I did the same thing. H+H are just doing their job reporting on important equestrian events, but I agree, it is REALLY annoying when it is on Eurosport on Wed night and now I already know who has won.
 
Megan_T said:
My goodness - that is appauling. How dare they post such things... HHO, you really must learn.....

Here's a plan - use your own brain (just a smidge, don't over do it) and don't log on until you've watched said programme.

Problem solved.

Gosh, my intelligence astounds even me sometimes :D
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I should NOT need to!! Using that logic, I shouldn't log on at all until the World Cup has finished.

I am not saying H&H should quit revealing results, but to just keep them to the results page. How hard a thing is that to do??
 
Over2You said:
It TOTALLY has!!!! I also knew who won the first round in Oslo (again thanks to H&H) and there was NO suspense or excitement at all during the jump-off.
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If you log onto a horsey forum there is a very real chance that someone will post the results and comment on them. Lucretia used to do it all the time.
Personally I find jump offs exciting even if I do know who wins and I love watching the skill of every round.
ETA: FEI TV even show photos of the winner on VOD so evidently it's not such a big deal

Of course H&H does not care about things like this. It is so caught up in its own agenda that it will not see things differently.
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The newspapers print the results of F1, rugby, football, racing etc.... would you write to them complaining that they print the news or just avoid reading them?

How would you like it if somebody told you how the book you were reading ended? It is the exact same thing here.
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Personally I don't care. Books and films are not, for me, about the ending; it's the journey that enthralls me. Sometimes I prefer to know the ending so I can appreciate the unravelling of the story all the more.
 
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Over2You said:
I should NOT need to!! Using that logic, I shouldn't log on at all until the World Cup has finished.

I am not saying H&H should quit revealing results, but to just keep them to the results page. How hard a thing is that to do??
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Equally, how hard is it NOT to log on? When I missed the final competition at HOYS a few weeks back, I just stayed away from H&H until I'd watched it. You can't expect them not to advertise results, it's part of what they are here to do. If it's big news, why shouldn't they put it somewhere where everyone can see it? It's a magazine at the end of the day, sharing news stories of the horsey world. Results are part of that.

If my OH doesn't want to know the football results, he doesn't go on FB, doesn't turn on Sky Sports News and stays away from FiveLive. It's hardly a huge effort is it...?
 
Well, I had no clue what the World Cup is, and never notice the flashy news thing, but thanks to YOU Over2You, you have ruined my whole life, I know who won AND I've begun noticing the flashy news thing. Pffffft! :mad:

:p
 
Tinkerbee said:
Well, I had no clue what the World Cup is, and never notice the flashy news thing, but thanks to YOU Over2You, you have ruined my whole life, I know who won AND I've begun noticing the flashy news thing. Pffffft! :mad:

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That's a good point. What about the people who hadn't noticed the flashy news thing, like me, who now know the results?
Luckily I don't mind.
 
I shouldn't need to bloody not log on!! H&H doesn't have a clue what the word discretion means.

Yes, they should report on events like the World Cup, but not to go splashing the results everywhere. It doesn't matter which page you go to, that bloody news flash is STILL there!!

To whoever it was that missed HOYS. It happens a few days out of a year. The World Cup is ongoing for MONTHS!! I sure as s**t am NOT going to stay away from this site for that long because a bunch of numpties don't have the decency to think of people who will be watching it and don't want to know the results.
 
Ok, I really am being dense but I thought the whole purpose of H&H was to publish results?! Thats certainly why I buy it...

I'm sure there would be a lot more people moaning if they didn't let people know who has won what!
 
Much ado about precisely fluffing nothing.

So the people who only have steam telly and not only don't have (GASP) the red button but don't have SKY either, they have to wait until it's convenient for those that clearly do have this facility before it gets "splashed and flashed" and they get to find out what happened, get to read about it, look at the pictures etc?

Get. A. Grip.
 
Over2You said:
I shouldn't need to bloody not log on!! H&H doesn't have a clue what the word discretion means.
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It's not HHO's business to be discreet; it IS their business to report on equestrian events!

Yes, they should report on events like the World Cup, but not to go splashing the results everywhere. It doesn't matter which page you go to, that bloody news flash is STILL there!!
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They didn't 'splash' it; I didn't even notice the news flash, so thanks for pointing that out for everyone else who cares about knowing who won ahead of TV coverage

To whoever it was that missed HOYS. It happens a few days out of a year. The World Cup is ongoing for MONTHS!! I sure as s**t am NOT going to stay away from this site for that long because a bunch of numpties don't have the decency to think of people who will be watching it and don't want to know the results.
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But you KNOW it happens so you have only yourself to blame. If it's THAT important to you, stop logging on. After all, what's to stop anyone else from posting and or commenting on results?
 
Whoopit said:
Much ado about precisely fluffing nothing.

So the people who only have steam telly and not only don't have (GASP) the red button but don't have SKY either, they have to wait until it's convenient for those that clearly do have this facility before it gets "splashed and flashed" and they get to find out what happened, get to read about it, look at the pictures etc?

Get. A. Grip.
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Go to the results page. Simple.
 
If I can't see something live I actually prefer to know the result before I see a recording. Particularly if it's jumps racing, that way I am prepared for any accidents (and can choose not to see the recording) and for any discipline I can then sit down and watch it calmly and free of tension.
 
PapaFrita said:
It's not HHO's business to be discreet; it IS their business to report on equestrian events!


They didn't 'splash' it; I didn't even notice the news flash, so thanks for pointing that out for everyone else who cares about knowing who won ahead of TV coverage


But you KNOW it happens so you have only yourself to blame. If it's THAT important to you, stop logging on. After all, what's to stop anyone else from posting and or commenting on results?
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1. They could have the basic common sense NOT to have results of televised events on every single page BEFORE they have been broadcast.

2. Without knowing it, you have actually proven my point. If it weren't for those flashing news bulletins, I would not be mad. It's not as if I went straight to the results page to ruin Wednesday's programme. I only came here to check on a thread and there it was. NOT good enough.

3. As I have said several times before on this thread, people should learn how to be discreet. I remember a lot of flare-ups here because topic starters revealed results of not yet televised events in their thread titles. Fair enough to talk about them, but not at the expense of people who will be watching said programmes.
 
It is H&Hs role to report results as that is their primary role, the forum is not top of the agenda and what is stopping a fellow forum member from posting the winner.


If the results were that important to you, dont log on to H&H on the day of the competition and until after it is shown on tv.

I have noticed the scrolling news bar but do not pay that much attention to it, however if there is an interesting news story it will encourage to view the H&H main website to read more.

Over2you and others just et a grip.
 
pastie2 said:
Good grief over2you, what on earth would your reaction be to something serious. How silly.
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For heaven's sake. Why do you think the other sources I mentioned (including one of the biggest sites online) have gone to such great lengths to STOP spoilers?

It is because they realize a lot of people are sick of them. H&H's revealing of results of shows that will be televised at a later date is no different than a thread/review/summary telling folk how a fictional television episode/film ends. Also, do you see signs up in book stores with the endings of books written on them? Again, this is no different to what H&H does.

It should also be noted that the World Cup isn't some small insignificant event. It is one of the biggest shows on the circuit. Shown on not one, but three television channels. It is a BIG deal for them to be spoiled.
 
Over2You said:
1. They could have the basic common sense NOT to have results of televised events on every single page BEFORE they have been broadcast.[/uuote]
It's a NEWS magazine. People come on here to find out what's going on. Even if they didn't post the results anyone on the forum could do it and what would you do about that? Get peed off because they are so inconsiderate to your particular feelings

2. Without knowing it, you have actually proven my point. If it weren't for those flashing news bulletins, I would not be mad. It's not as if I went straight to the results page to ruin Wednesday's programme. I only came here to check on a thread and there it was. NOT good enough.
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Nope, have NO idea how I've proven your point. I only found out who won because YOU drew my attention to the results. ANY user on the forum could've mentioned the results in a thread and you would've found out that way. There is a whole section on the forum devoted to news... what exactly did you expect to find in there? And as I've said before, it's no surprise to you, so why do you keep logging on in when you KNOW you could very likely find out the results.

3. As I have said several times before on this thread, people should learn how to be discreet. I remember a lot of flare-ups here because topic starters revealed results of not yet televised events in their thread titles. Fair enough to talk about them, but not at the expense of people who will be watching said programmes.
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Why don't you come on HHO whilst people are discussing WEG or Badminton as it happens and have a winge at them for spoiling your fun?? This is a site where people TALK about equestrian events. Live with it. There are some film sites where there are tonnes of spoilers. Would you go on those if you didn't want to know the ending to a film? No, so don't come onto HHO if you don't want to know what happens in the World Cup.
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PapaFrita said:
Over2You said:
1. They could have the basic common sense NOT to have results of televised events on every single page BEFORE they have been broadcast.[/uuote]
It's a NEWS magazine. People come on here to find out what's going on. Even if they didn't post the results anyone on the forum could do it and what would you do about that? Get peed off because they are so inconsiderate to your particular feelings



Nope, have NO idea how I've proven your point. I only found out who won because YOU drew my attention to the results. ANY user on the forum could've mentioned the results in a thread and you would've found out that way. There is a whole section on the forum devoted to news... what exactly did you expect to find in there? And as I've said before, it's no surprise to you, so why do you keep logging on in when you KNOW you could very likely find out the results.


Why don't you come on HHO whilst people are discussing WEG or Badminton as it happens and have a winge at them for spoiling your fun?? This is a site where people TALK about equestrian events. Live with it. There are some film sites where there are tonnes of spoilers. Would you go on those if you didn't want to know the ending to a film? No, so don't come onto HHO if you don't want to know what happens in the World Cup.
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I shall say for the umpteenth time. There is no need to have the results flashing on every single page!! Put ALL results on the appropriate dedicated page. That is what the results page is for, right? That way anybody wanting to know the results could go to that page. How hard a concept is that for you to grasp? I also sense a bit of jealousy from all the people who have shot me down. Presumably you have no access to multi-channel TV in order to see such events, so therefore could not give a stuff about those that do.

I have also stressed that the IMDB (the ONLY film/TV site that I visit) has ZERO tolerance regarding spoilers. Users have been suspended because they failed to follow the rules about revealing them. I have also had loads of threads and user reviews removed.

You (and Tinkerbee) proved my point to the letter in posts 10, 11 and 17. You said you didn't know about the flashing news bulletins until I said so. I would not have mentioned them at all if they weren't as persistent in revealing results ahead of broadcasts. Don't blame me, blame your beloved H&H.
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Over2You said:
PapaFrita said:
I shall say for the umpteenth time. There is no need to have the results flashing on every single page!! Put ALL results on the appropriate dedicated page. That is what the results page is for, right? That way anybody wanting to know the results could go to that page. How hard a concept is that for you to grasp? I also sense a bit of jealousy from all the people who have shot me down. Presumably you have no access to multi-channel TV in order to see such events, so therefore could not give a stuff about those that do.

I have also stressed that the IMDB (the ONLY film/TV site that I visit) has ZERO tolerance regarding spoilers. Users have been suspended because they failed to follow the rules about revealing them. I have also had loads of threads and user reviews removed.

You (and Tinkerbee) proved my point to the letter in posts 10, 11 and 17. You said you didn't know about the flashing news bulletins until I said so. I would not have mentioned them at all if they weren't as persistent in revealing results ahead of broadcasts. Don't blame me, blame your beloved H&H.
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Oh my God you are SO self-absorbed. You KNOW there is a news flash on HHO, you KNOW there are spoilers, you KNOW people will discuss Badminton, WEG etc, as soon as it happens and offer congratulations to the winner, so instead of telling people what they 'need to learn' DON'T come on if you don't want to know the results. STOP comparing HHO to imdb; you say it has zero tolerance for spoilers, well bully for them. As you yourself say, other sites DON'T have zero tolerance and you don't go on them so DO THE SAME for HHO!!! You NEED to get a grip and understand that it's not all about YOU. And yes, people DO get upset if someone reveals part of the plot of a book, film or TV series on HHO but they don't go on about how 'people learn to be discreet'...
And as for your comments about people being jealous.... People are shooting you down because you are being entirely unreasonable not because they haven't got multi-channel TV and are jealous. Unbelievable. Incidentally, I've got FEI TV, I get to watch all the World Cup competitions LIVE and if I miss it I get to watch when I want on VOD. Much better than having to wait 3 days. Perhaps you should subscribe, or would that deprive you of something to pontificate about?
And I have NOT proven any point of yours. I KNEW the newsflash was there, but I don't pay particular attention to it, I DON'T find it particularly eye-catching and I don't care that they show the results. Please stop trying to prove that I agree with you because I don't and what's this random 'don't blame me, blame your beloved HHO'? I'm not blaming anyone, I'm saying that YOU need to make a bit more effort to avoid seeing spoilers if they mean that much to you; that SAME effort you make to avoid seeing spoilers to films.
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Good grief!! I think you need to get a life... Seriously is it THAT important to you?

I hear what you are saying about the results page so instead of ranting like a loony why don't you make a nice, polite request in the Admin section (that is what it's for after all!) explaining why it upsets you so much and see what happens.

Winding Admin up will not, quite rightly, get you anywhere.
 
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