That yellow lab at Crufts....

Was chatting to someone only yesterday who knew their labs quite well and saying how there are two types, the leaner, smaller working ones and the larger types which arn't all obese, purely a result of bigger frames/muscle in breeding lines...
 
anyone see the pug the other day...it was huge!!!!!! loved the dancing to music display, that collie looked like he was really enjoying himself....i like the wire fox terrier to win but would like the little pom to get somewhere because he looks like such a little character and he is called colin!!!! love it...
 
The poodle was stunning, moved beautifully. Although, not a fan of their show clips. Nice to see the Samoyed getting reserve but wanted the wolfhound to win.
 
teapot said:
Was chatting to someone only yesterday who knew their labs quite well and saying how there are two types, the leaner, smaller working ones and the larger types which arn't all obese, purely a result of bigger frames/muscle in breeding lines...
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My OH has a choccie one bred from gun dog stock... He's small and built like a brick poohouse! Just an absolute slab of sheer muscle.... And I prefer him to 99% of the labs I've seen on Crufts!

Some of them are just FAT. Awful.
 
teapot said:
Was chatting to someone only yesterday who knew their labs quite well and saying how there are two types, the leaner, smaller working ones and the larger types which arn't all obese, purely a result of bigger frames/muscle in breeding lines...
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People regularly trot out the 'big boned' excuse with certain breeds. They must have strange bones; they seem to ripple in waves over their backs...;) :rolleyes3:

I liked that poodle. Think he'd feel better with a sensible clip though.

All these dogs look very well cared for, but I think of my lot, currently sleeping in a muddy heap in a pile of straw outside somewhere after a day of running round the farm and rolling in poo, and can't help thinking that I know which I'd rather be....
 
A neighbour of my parents is one her third yellow lab now, sparkles the puppy :rolleyes3:

Already it's fat, her last two dogs could barely walk they were so overweight and 'hippy' I'm talking 50m then they would lie down for a rest. She changed vets because they told her the dog was obese. I'm pleased that my dad, first time he saw the puppy, commented that it was fat already like the others. I could tell she was put out, but responded by saying it was puppy fat, not that much isn't!!

I've told my dad he needs to say that everytime he sees her. The woman is a complete busybody and is always in every one else's business so needs bluntness back. What else can you do though, it falls on deaf ears and I doubt the RSPCA would do anything. Do you reckon if I found out the breeder they would care at all?
 
Patterdale said:
People regularly trot out the 'big boned' excuse with certain breeds. They must have strange bones; they seem to ripple in waves over their backs...;) :rolleyes3:

I liked that poodle. Think he'd feel better with a sensible clip though.

All these dogs look very well cared for, but I think of my lot, currently sleeping in a muddy heap in a pile of straw outside somewhere after a day of running round the farm and rolling in poo, and can't help thinking that I know which I'd rather be....
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I did say big boned and/or fat given the slash :wink3: There's fit with muscles that ripple (that's where the saying comes from) and there's rippling with fat. Some are obese, no doubt, just like some show horses. Person I was talking to yesterday made the difference between the two, but his own muscley larger built lab is a fit working dog, just big with it and its muscles ripple, like Jenni's own experience. Sounds akin to a rugby union prop!

Each to their own - don't think Crufts is the best advertisement for dog breeding in this country...
 
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A lot of the dogs weren't bred here though, although I only watched tonight's show as gun dogs are the type I'm interested in.

Ets: that sounded really cheeky teapot it wasn't meant too!
 
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I've got one of each type of lab, one working lightweight type, the other show lines. The show one IS big boned. Her limbs are nearly twice the size of the working lab and she has a heck of a rib cage, she would be a cob if she was a horse. That said, she is not fat, well not much, and usually the dogs you see on Crufts lab section are!

I haven't seen any this year, but remember people talking about a fat lab that did well last year. Was it the same dog?
 
teapot said:
Was chatting to someone only yesterday who knew their labs quite well and saying how there are two types, the leaner, smaller working ones and the larger types which arn't all obese, purely a result of bigger frames/muscle in breeding lines...
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This is true, we have two; one stocky, chunky fellow and the other a leaner crazy thing :p
However, wouldn't call our stocky one fat and didn't see the crufts one..
 
What Honey posted is exactly what I was chatting to someone about yesterday. He's however combined the bigger lines with being a working dog.

Gina - ok maybe not Crufts, but not sure the Kennel Club is doing itself any favours...
 
I was once in a hotel in LA while their equivalent of Crufts was happening across the road and lots of the dogs were staying in my hotel. Now those were really fat dogs, it wasn't even nice to look at them.
 
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Woolfhound was lame (I thought), as was the wire fox terrier.
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Wolfhound not lame to me, have to say. And was certainly in fabulous nick when I had the pleasure of getting my hands on him on Friday :)

Patterdale said:
People regularly trot out the 'big boned' excuse with certain breeds. They must have strange bones; they seem to ripple in waves over their backs...;) :rolleyes3:

I liked that poodle. Think he'd feel better with a sensible clip though.

All these dogs look very well cared for, but I think of my lot, currently sleeping in a muddy heap in a pile of straw outside somewhere after a day of running round the farm and rolling in poo, and can't help thinking that I know which I'd rather be....
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Thing is patterdale, many of them are as yours are, though probably not many outside sleeper granted.

I don't know anyone in my breed nor in other breeds, but I know fewer of those, whose dogs aren't muddy, walked and who haven't rolled in poo most of the time.

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My dogs are in the kitchen at the moment, having been gleaming on Friday on the green carpets taking prizes, and now filthy having been out hacking this morning and the youngster has been playing with a boxer pup whilst I mucked out. They've stretched on the tiles making it impossible to get to the coffee machine!! Argh.

My point is purely that they spend maybe 10-30 days a year like that, te rest like normal pets but better exercised because for most breeds, muscle tone is taken seriously :)

I agree on the poodle, gorgeous but I hate the poncy clips even though I know they stem from te working clips of old! I don't like the way their eyes roll back either :/
 
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Patterdale said:
All these dogs look very well cared for, but I think of my lot, currently sleeping in a muddy heap in a pile of straw outside somewhere after a day of running round the farm and rolling in poo, and can't help thinking that I know which I'd rather be....
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I can promise you Dan (the samyoed) spends most of his days at the beach, swimming in rivers and through the winter running in harness in sled dog rallies with the Alaskan Malamutes he lives with

I can provide photographic evidence if you wish
 
There's no need for labs to be fat .
They just need the right diet and exercise .
The poodle was stunning I have always wanted one MrGS has always said it him or a poodle.
 
Alec Swan said:
I notice that you lacked the courage to post this on AAD! :D

Coward! :p

Alec.
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:D :D

Llanali said:
My dogs are in the kitchen at the moment, having been gleaming on Friday on the green carpets taking prizes, and now filthy having been out hacking this morning and the youngster has been playing with a boxer pup whilst I mucked out. They've stretched on the tiles making it impossible to get to the coffee machine!! Argh.

My point is purely that they spend maybe 10-30 days a year like that, te rest like normal pets but better exercised because for most breeds, muscle tone is taken seriously :)
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Point taken! :)
What breed do you have? How did they do?

Cyrus said:
I can promise you Dan (the samyoed) spends most of his days at the beach, swimming in rivers and through the winter running in harness in sled dog rallies with the Alaskan Malamutes he lives with
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Ahhh that's nice to hear! I thought he was absolutely beautiful. :)
 
I've really enjoyed watching the whole thing. I didn't think the foxhound was a particularly good example of the breed but then my idea of a good foxhound would not be blemish free for a show ring.

I also wondered about the GSD? I have no knowledge or understanding of the breed but personally thought the dogs hips/back end did not look like a good example of the breed - is this their desired stance?
 
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