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walkandtrot

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Feeling miserable after attending an unaffiliated Showing show, thought I'd share it with you, having had pretty good success with my new pure ID mare, being really admired by judges and trainers locally, we thought we'd venture a bit further affield, On arrival I discovered it was being judged by a ex trainer of mine, (who lets just say, sometimes you just dont hit it off with people, and i had to decline her services) but I thought she would certainly act proffessionally. Alas not, although I'm very much an amatuer, I pay very much attention to detail, correct dress, tack turnout etc etc for a Hunter class,.Despite us going correctly, giving her an obedient forward ride, and trotting up super, we were put 2nd last to a very unbalanced horse! The horse above me was covered in Diamante bling to make matters worse! So hence feeling very disallusioned about the whole thing, and is it worth continuing when your'e not always in with a fair shout!
 
I always find it unfair when judges do not judge fairly. When our shires were out showing one of the mares was always placed last under a certain judge because he didn't like greys.
 
Well that annoys me aswell, I got annoyed last season actually at one show I watched in the hunter class, it was a good class, anyway this one horse you would not even call a hunter, had bling browband, it went on the wrong leg both reins couldnt change it, went round crap basically,

The rest of the class went round fantastic and it was a class of 25, the horse got pulled in 2nd everyone in the class was furious, I think that was the worst case I have seen as I dont usualy complain about thing but I was so shocked as was everyone outside??
 
i agree i started showing about 2 years ago with a welsh section D stallion and everything was fine i even won the class a few times! but when i got my TBxID mare i took her into the hunter and sometimes riding horse classes and she wasnt placed very well at all (ok she gets a little bit excited but has good conformation etc) behind lead reins! personally i think that local shows are fixed! for example there is a woman who wins every class she enters not because her horse is brilliant (it really is not) but because she knows the judges and will place them first if they enter classes she judges it doesnt give anyone else a chance and dampens the atmosphere so i dont bother anymore rant over lol
 
RachnTabby it is true about judges placing people they know higher up, a lot of people will follow the judges around and enter the classes that they judge bacause of this. It is very unfair.

I also find it annoying when in a championship a horse that has been placed second is made champion, personally I find if it isn't good enough to be placed first in it's classes then how can it beat the horses that have been placed first and be placed champion?
Maybe there is a reason for this that I am not awear of.
 
Its basically who you know and who knows you .


Tis a pity your mare didnt buck her off
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Chin up xx you know what you have .
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it's one of the main reasons I rarely do showing! A friend of mine did an open coloured class on Flash 2 summers ago and was told he wasn't right for coloured classes
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RachnTabby it is true about judges placing people they know higher up, a lot of people will follow the judges around and enter the classes that they judge bacause of this. It is very unfair.

I also find it annoying when in a championship a horse that has been placed second is made champion, personally I find if it isn't good enough to be placed first in it's classes then how can it beat the horses that have been placed first and be placed champion?
Maybe there is a reason for this that I am not awear of.

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I didn't think they were allowed to do that?
If a horse was placed 2nd in it's class it can become reserve champ above a horse that won its class if they are in different classes, does that make sense?
 
Oh don't it is a joke!!! But for every show you go to prepared and looking the part with well behaved horses we will come up against good fair judges and the blingy horses that know the riding club chairperson will then know how it feels but fairly so.

I went to a local show 2 weeks back and it was the same, I was really peed off and normaly accept my place and agree but this was dreadful!!! At one point the judge and steward were laughing about someone as they were doing their routine and then the steward snuck up to his friend, who ended up winning the class and was like shhhh give me your schooling whip, this is after she had done her individual with it to.

Don't let it put you off though, you will come up against some funny judges but also some brillaint ones who will really inspire you and help you. Just treat it as your own little competition and that you are doing it for you and your horse and aim to do better each time. Good luck!!!!
 
I have only been to one show where the judging was blatantly fixed, but judges definately have thier 'types'. My sister works for a notable show yard in OZ, they had a lovley young riding mare who my sister rated, however she hadnt been terribly succesful. She went on to win small riding horse at a top show, I think it was the Royal Queensland, being judged by an English woman. She liked the mare because she looked like a proper English horse.

At last years RC shows there were two judges who clearly favoured coloureds (good for us!). My daughter was also in a PC/RC type pony class a few years ago being judged by her RI of 10 years, she placed her 2nd, afterwards said 'of course you should have won, but that might of looked like favouritism'.

I think in showing you just have to do your best and take your chances.
 
A couple of years ago I took my pony into a family pony class. She was an absolute angel, if a little sluggish. We got placed last in the class behind a pony with a pelham and flash on (we were in eggbutt snaffle and caveson noseband). When I asked the judge why we were placed last, she told me my pony was not forward going enough. I was quite shocked. I would never have let any small children on a pony that needed a pelham and flash and still went at 100mph. The next class was pony club pony and Roxy woke up, and we ended up with 5th place, only being placed that low because I chickened out of doing the higher jump. It was almost like Roxy knew what she should have been doing, but it wasn't what the judge wanted.
 
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A couple of years ago I took my pony into a family pony class. She was an absolute angel, if a little sluggish. We got placed last in the class behind a pony with a pelham and flash on (we were in eggbutt snaffle and caveson noseband). When I asked the judge why we were placed last, she told me my pony was not forward going enough. I was quite shocked. I would never have let any small children on a pony that needed a pelham and flash and still went at 100mph. The next class was pony club pony and Roxy woke up, and we ended up with 5th place, only being placed that low because I chickened out of doing the higher jump. It was almost like Roxy knew what she should have been doing, but it wasn't what the judge wanted.

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Yes, family pony can be tricky. At one show my daughter came last in family pony, despite her 13.1 welsh sec C being a perfect gent. The winner was a vast hunter type. I thought family pony was something that could be safely be ridden my more than one member of the family. The judge told Sophie that her pony was lovely but too small to be ridden by a man, How aout the winner being to large to be ridden by a child.
 
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