The 2012 racing season has now killed 50 horses!!

[Over2You]

FIFTY horses have now been killed on racetracks in the UK.

Their names:

First Order
Prince Blue
Optimist
Takhreej
Advertise
The Prentender
Welcome Approach
Nanna Maura
Arrys Orse
According To Pete
Synchronised
Just Jordan
Gottany OS
Milans Man
Lets Go Girls
U B Carefull
Olivino
Dont Tell The Wife
Canni Thinkaar
Connak
Gross Prophet
Abergavenny
Featherbed Lane
Palawi
Scotsirish
Garde Champetre
Educated Evans
Harry Handsome
Mottley Crewe
Drybrook Bedouin
Will Scarlet
Rougham
Deferto Delphi
Moving Wings
Bygones In Brid
Marigolds Way
Pendoun
King Of Keys
Blue Ronnie
Danehill Willy
Hopeful Start
Simonsberg
Tourist
Uncle Bryn
Haafhd Handsome
Mr Chow
Montegonian
Salberto
Hidden Keel
This Masquerade

Rest peacefully poor horses. You were the victims of unjustifiable greed and arrogance.


Don't even try to tell me that any other equestrian sport kills anywhere near as many horses as that!!

 

[Shazbat]

Get a life!
How many have been killed through neglect or on the roads!

 

[Elf On A Shelf]

May The 4th Be With You!

 

[Elf On A Shelf]

Oh! I would also like to point out that the 2012 Flat Season started at the beginning of April and the 2012 Jumps Season started on Monday. We don't do years so soz! Your stats are wrong!

 

[TeamChaser]

Get a life!
How many have been killed through neglect or on the roads!

Precisely!!!


Over2You - in the interests of fairness are you going to list all of the horses killed so far this year in other disciplines, whilst being used for leisure purposes, at leisure, through neglect, through stupidity, through accidents etc, etc


If you have a horse, you have domesticated/trained it for your own purpose (I don't care how much you believe in your NH methods) - maybe we're all selfish then??

The important thing is how we care for them whilst they are with us

Really getting boring now ......

 

[kirstykate]

Where there is livestock there is dead stock way of the world. How many horses are there in the racing industry, think you will find that its a very small percentage are killed on the track, is it better to die doing something you enjoy or die from neglect??

 

[HihoGinger]

OTY
"Flogging a dead horse"....

 

[lachlanandmarcus]

I think O2Y would be better focusing their energies on the cruelty and barbarism meted out to horses by intensive farming, long distance transporting to slaughter and the thousands of horses struggling to starve dumped in Wales and Ireland by the real greedy breeders in this country.

Personally, a life without an element of risk is no life at all, nor would the chasing stamp of horse exist without a purpose for him to be bred for.

Id rather there were ScotsIrishs around, however sadly briefly, than not at all. And the tears that jump racing fans shed for them (and they do!) don't change that.

 

[TeamChaser]

I think O2Y would be better focusing their energies on the cruelty and barbarism meted out to horses by intensive farming, long distance transporting to slaughter and the thousands of horses struggling to starve dumped in Wales and Ireland by the real greedy breeders in this country.

Personally, a life without an element of risk is no life at all, nor would the chasing stamp of horse exist without a purpose for him to be bred for.

Id rather there were ScotsIrishs around, however sadly briefly, than not at all. And the tears that jump racing fans shed for them (and they do!) don't change that.

Very well put

 

[Over2You]

Oh! I would also like to point out that the 2012 Flat Season started at the beginning of April and the 2012 Jumps Season started on Monday. We don't do years so soz! Your stats are wrong!

If that is the case, then how come Haafhd Handsome died on the flat in February of this year? Looks like you are wrong!! Or did he perish during the 2011 season (which technically carried over to 2012)? Either way, you are still incorrect!!

PS: There is no such word as "soz".

 

[rhino]

PS: There is no such word as "soz".

There is also no need to use multiple exclamation marks, or multiples of other forms of punctuation. It is incorrect usage, but as language changes and adapts it seems as acceptable as using easily identified neologisms.

 

[Allover]

OTY in the time that those 50 horses died how many horses raced, i would be interested to see the percentage if you can find it?

 

[Elf On A Shelf]

Althoughh racing happens all year round under both codes they are divided up into seasons. Traditionally the Jumps season ran from October to the end of April - winter jumping ground. The Flat season ran from the middle of April until the end of October - when the turf tracks raced fast and unsuitable for jumping. These days you have all weather tracks to flat race on all winter and jumps tracks water their ground to make is safe to jump on. No jumps meeting will ever be held where the ground is firm/fast all the way round.

So the horse you are referring to that died on the flat will have been on the all weather synthetic surface and will technically have been last season.

 

[amage]

Of course you will never tout the pro racing statistic that thanks to the unprecendented exemplary work of the ground crew at Punchestown at the end of five days racing no horses were injured or killed and not one jockey was injured! The rain came non stop yet day after day they produced a safe track and while some of the chases have been deferred to next week the track is once again superbly prepared. But hey thats probably way to accurate a stat for you to be interested in O2Y

 

[Elf On A Shelf]

Punchestown did a cracking job! I do believe that they worked through the night removing water from the track, properly working in the divets and the end result was a great weeks racing and a track that they should very, very much br proud of!
There was only one minor tendon injury during 3 days of Perth racing too last week.

But we'll not mention any of that as it won't help overthetops movement to ban racing!

 

[ElphabaFae]

And during this time how many horses have been sent to Europe to be slaughtered? Sent in unsuitable over-crowded lorries, with no food and water, suffering god knows what injuries, because they panic and lash out at each other. I presume you've heard the video of the kill-buyer in America who confessed he would shot any horse that wouldn't load into the trailer in the eye with a BB gun...

Yes racehorses get injured, so do event horses, showjumpers and I'm pretty sure that the use of rollkur within the dressage community is hardly a treat for the horses either. But if they get injured, they get the best vet treatment soon, I'm pretty sure something going to France won't get to see a vet straight away because its broken its leg after it got kicked by another terrified horse!

Also since you have a list of all those who have sadly died, do you happened to have a list of all those who raced without incident?

 

[amage]

Punchestown did a cracking job! I do believe that they worked through the night removing water from the track, properly working in the divets and the end result was a great weeks racing and a track that they should very, very much br proud of!
There was only one minor tendon injury during 3 days of Perth racing too last week.

But we'll not mention any of that as it won't help overthetops movement to ban racing!

Yes they did....it takes some dedication to continuously pump water off the track through the night while the rain keeps falling and yet they left no tractor mark on the course it was just phenomenal effort

 

[Leaf]

I think the images of the walking horses in the US was far more distressing the mental torture day in day out for years...

If you are set against racing then why don't you try helping the poor blighters (on another thread) in the US, running on unregulated meds on some casino owned tracks.

racing in the UK is heavily policed and welfare aware even if you chose not to believe it.

I suspect that you don't have any real interest in racehorse welfare that you just enjoy winding people up. If you were serious then you would know racing has seasons, and would not indulge in petty "soz" comments

 

[Dab]

racing in the UK is heavily policed and welfare aware even if you chose not to believe it.

I suspect that you don't have any real interest in racehorse welfare that you just enjoy winding people up. If you were serious then you would know racing has seasons, and would not indulge in petty "soz" comments

^^^^^point well made

 

[Holly Hocks]

O2Y - how many horses have you taken from racing to give them a life after racing? Don't criticise racing when those of us who enjoy it are probably the ones who take them after their racing careers to give them another life. If you are so concerned about racehorses, then maybe you should put your time and energy into rehabilitating and rehoming them.

 

[joelb]

FIFTY horses have now been killed on racetracks in the UK.

Potters probably get through that many unwanted and unfortunate animals in an afternoon because of indiscriminate over breeding by every Tom, Dick or Harry. I know which scenario bothers me more.

(Not knocking abattoirs, just trying to make a point…..probably very badly.)

 

[Alec Swan]

I've asked this before, and I'm working on the basis, that rather like the irritating child who continues to ask the same question, again and again, in the hope of an answer;

Can someone please explain to me just why anyone takes Over2You, and his or her inane statements seriously, and credits them with reasoned replies?

Alec.

 

[AdorableAlice]

I've asked this before, and I'm working on the basis, that rather like the irritating child who continues to ask the same question, again and again, in the hope of an answer;

Can someone please explain to me just why anyone takes Over2You, and his or her inane statements seriously, and credits them with reasoned replies?

Alec.

Well said.

I recently found a coloured young horse dumped in a layby. He had been killed by starvation and neglect.

This is what needs addressing not racing.

 

[glenruby]

Personally I have put to sleep half of that number in less than threeonths - all of whom are happy hackers and all rounders and ponies. Half of those again were due to injury -most commonly broken legs. In fact this week i had 2 fractures and a horse break down on front tendons - all wuthanased after injury in the field. Their welfare was much worse than similar racehorses as 1 was left 48hrs before getting a vet, 1 left 24hrs and the ither likely to have been 2-3hrs. My stats are out of approx 700-800 horses! A much much higher percentage than from the thousands of horses currently racing/ in training.

 

[silu]

No expert on computer jargon and don't often post on this forum however OTY seems as tho they are what is nowadays called a Troll? I believe. Pity they don't spend their quite obvious copious amounts of spare time actually DOING something useful, instead of taking hours to produce what they consider information which will help the plight of horses.
I'm fund raising tomorrow for a great and MUCH needed horse charity in Egypt. Go to the likes of Egypt OTY and see REAL cruelty which makes deaths however regrettable on the race track pall into insignificance
How much time have you spent either looking after retired/unwanted equines or "rattled a tin" to get money to pay for the care of abused equines be they race horses or otherwise?
May I suggest to the others who have replied to this post that we are just "feeding the troll" and perhaps we'd be better not to respond so that the troll will go back into it's cave.

 

[Paris1]

It's interesting how one person comments on something they find cruel and unacceptable, and others feel the need to say but there is worse cruelty out there. I am certain there is. But its beside O2Y's point really.

 

[Dunlin]

Horse and Hound has for many many years now been supported/read by people that are pro hunt, pro racing, pro eventing etc. Due to the amount of times this particular subject has been discussed and the fact that it always gets petty, I think the ideal solution would be for the original poster to take their views onto a forum that is in support of them. I personally have no issues with racing, I also have no issues for those that don't support it but I think this is the wrong place to start these types of thread, it's a bit like joining a Ferarri forum to discuss how terribly uneconomical their vehicles are and expecting everyone on there to change their opinion and buy electric cars instead.

 

[cptrayes]

Are you serious?

You only want people to discuss things on here if they are in complete agreement with everything that Horse and Hound magazine publishes?

You do realise millions of people have lost their lives to ensure that the British retained the right to freedom of speech, do you?

This is an open forum and everyone is entitled to their own opinion. And Horse and Hound will be cross if you shut discussion down, too it's making them a lot of money in advertising revenues.

 

[Over2You]

Are you serious?

You only want people to discuss things on here if they are in complete agreement with everything that Horse and Hound magazine publishes?

You do realise millions of people have lost their lives to ensure that the British retained the right to freedom of speech, do you?

This is an open forum and everyone is entitled to their own opinion. And Horse and Hound will be cross if you shut discussion down, too it's making them a lot of money in advertising revenues.

Thank you for saying that. This lot are doing everything they can to avoid admitting/coming to terms with that FIFTY horses dying in a little over four months of racing is completely unacceptable.

 

[Over2You]

O2Y - how many horses have you taken from racing to give them a life after racing? Don't criticise racing when those of us who enjoy it are probably the ones who take them after their racing careers to give them another life. If you are so concerned about racehorses, then maybe you should put your time and energy into rehabilitating and rehoming them.

Oh, but I HAVE!! My boy was bought at a bin-end Thoroughbred auction almost eight years ago. Took me a while to rehabilitate him (he had been abused through being whipped and hit around the head at the racing yard he was on before I got him), but he is a very happy chap now. He's completely spoiled and has NEVER seen a whip since coming to me. The only racehorses that are treated like kings are the ones that are making/or have made lots of money.