The Bay Boys report from Bury Farm AF and ROR Champs!

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First things first... We are fully supporting Movember at Sparkle Towers:

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So, PS headed off to Bury Farm for the AF PSG on Friday :)

We set off with high hopes, he's been going fantastically at home... And also chewing the fence...or not ;)

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He's been really forward and raring to go every day and getting 65% ish even when I make stupid mistakes. So I thought a nice clear round might just about do it. Sadly it just was not to be :(

He started off warming up (outside) nicely enough, sharp but listening, until some absolute pillock decided to have it out with their nappy horse and canter across the car park right next to the warm up! CS and the youngster also in the warm up both exploded, then exploded at each other exploding, then exploded again for good measure!

And that was the end of any vague hope of relaxation really, tried going indoors but he was on an absolute knife edge and every time someone dared to breath in the next door arena or on the yard he went off again, rearing and leaping.

Went back outside as said pillock had disappeared, he did start to chill but we ran out of time to get him 100%. Bless him, he did a big sigh of relief and relaxed in the ring, being inside those white boards is like a security blanket I think. I can't fault his attitude, he didn't even blink at th flowers/ heaters/gallery/banners etc. Brave boy :)

The test itself was fine, just brittle. He only made one mistake in the change after the canter zig zag when he changed, changed back then hopped round the corner like a mounted games pony! Rather than risk an upset, I walked one stride then cantered on which he did calmy. I let him chose the size of the piri's and he decided to go tight, but very sweetly (got 6.5 to 7.5 for them, yay!) and then did the tempis foot perfect but just tight over the back.

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He ended up on 65.395% which left us 7th in a strong class - the top 8 or 9 were separated by 1.5%. So, without the tension who knows what might have been.

Bittersweet really, to get 65% with that degree of tension is great; shows the basics are very correct and his general way of going is pleasing to the judges. But I so wanted a win, for the horse more than me, he deserves it. I don't think we will get a wildcard now, albeit no one seems to know how many BD will give this year after changing the direct qual to 1st place only! Everyone continue to cross your limbs please! In any case, he's improved so so much in the last six moths and I'm insanely proud of him :)

We head back to Bury for the High Profile in 3 weeks to see how we compare to the big boys in the PSG qual. Then to vale the week after for the PSG qual again, with the loose plan being to qual for the 2014 regionals at PSG, and maybe Inter 1 too.

Figs turn on the Sunday at Vale View High Profile for the ROR Champs :)

He's been such a good boy recently! If you ignore what happened after this snap on Friday:

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Where I stopped for a moment to let a car pass on a really winding tight bend. And before I could stop him Fig had destroyed some poor childs beautifully carved pumpkin!!! We scarpered rather quickly, sniggering all the way home. 50:50 bemused:embarrassed! Otherwise I've been really working on the canter and the transitions. Both coming along very sweetly and the basic canter work is starting to feel SO grown up.

Fig came out chilled as a bean. I did a very short 20 min blast around to let him have a look (in between the torrential downpour. Got to love that micro climate at Vale!), and he was super. Thought I was onto a good one. Sadly... This was also not meant to be.

It really really really doesn't help when somebody comes cantering back out the ring and smashes into 3 horses and canters off without apologising... Nor does it help when people halt in the middle of your canter piri, or walk through your medium trot... (although I felt more sorry for the girl on the obviously wound up horse, and everyone continued to ride right up to her!!!!) Fig was seriously tense by this stage :( I ended up cantering in a light seat for about 10 mins solid to try and get him to relax. (He got bumped quite badly during racing, and from then on his trainers had a bit of trouble getting to him to nip forward through gaps between horses, which translates into his warm up ring behaviour - we're going to try a red ribbon in his tail and see if that will put some sense/manners into everyone).

The Novice first, in the bigger spookier international. It was brittle, but it was forward and 99% accurate. He threw in a horrid salmon hump grunt buck in part of the canter:

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It was only when I came round for the free walk that I realised why he'd done it - how inconsiderate to suddenly appear on horseback in the doorway, with your horse INTO the competition arena up to its shoulders, whilst someone else is doing their test. I was absolutely furious.

Medium trots didn't happen, medium canters went a bit flat. The downwards transitions were ok actually - his stretchy circle was moderate, he drew his chin round rather than out. Still got some 8's, but the 5's for the squiffy moment bought us down. The class had more than 30 people in it, so I was hopeful we'd end up in the top 10 at least.

Onto the Elem... He was still being really daft. And irritatingly, the contact has been super at home but he went really set and rigid in his neck on me :( There were some really nice moments of work, but he didn't feel *with* me. I went in for the test, and I asked for the door to be closed, only to be told that because I was the only one who had bothered to ask it would put me at an advantage!!! I assured them it had been closed for the Area Festivals but nope. Ok, so I can handle that. I wasn't prepared for them to keep walking in and out of the doorway during my test though...!

The set contact made everything a little brittle again. He wouldn't medium trot towards the group of 4 people in the doorway, especially when one waved their arms (presumably at someone in the warm up), which made him shove his ears up my nose. The upwards transitions were better this time although his back was ever so tight and he was stepping quite short behind. I attempted a medium canter up the long side, past the open door. Only for a steward to suddenly walk in (just checking we're still in there?!) - which meant we ended up doing a flying change onto the 3/4 line. Massive thanks! So emergency halt and pick up the correct lead and try and rescue a 10m half circle to counter canter... Again, a few 8's, but the 5's for the change and wiggly 10m half circle to counter canter hammered our mark.

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Scores went up; 4th in the Novice with 67.7% and 3rd in the Elem with 67.65%. Gutted (because I know what he's capable of). And gutted that I've spent all year (not to mention last year) trying to get him confident about competing, and people just don't seem to *think* at time :( He deserved a better day out. He's still in Elem points so next year we'll tackle the Elem again and I've got my eye on that rug and sash!

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Couldn't be more proud of him though - he's had a cracking year with some amazing results. He's gone further than anyone said or thought he would. Love him to bits and still wouldn't change him for the world!

Off for our double date with PS and CS at Vale early Dec, got that medium debut penciled in and then we'll introduce the double bridle over winter :)
 
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There do seem to be an awful lot of idiots out there... It annoys the life out of me when people are walking in and out of the arena - and mine don't even notice, it's just me who's distracted!

Anyway, they both look fab and very, very smart. I love how CS's gold boots become a golden blur in the indoor photos!

I guess there's always another day... Fig would look super in the rug after all! ;)
 
That's crap :( I've seen some imbicile-y behaviour at competitions before including someone practicing their 'extended' trot as they entered the arena side by side with someone that was trying to shoulder in during a test....

Well done though. They are looking in summer condition despite the cold weather coming in. Fabby Boys.
 
I was the girl on the incredibly wound up chestnut!! Fair to say he didn't enjoy the intensity of the warm-up one bit. Apologies again for when he shot towards Fig, like you say, didn't help that people kept aiming for him.

Well done though, Fig is lovely and the international arena was intimidating for them. Mine wouldn't go anywhere near A and did exactly the same as Fig in one of the canters, then put in a flying change for good measure!! Gutted as know what he can do on his day!! Onwards and upwards like you say. G
 
Great results under the circumstances and the boys are looking fab.

Took my boy out fro his first test in 18 mnths a few weeks ago, he decided that he couldn't possibly go near the judges car, led to some interesting moves. Since then the yard owner who isn't at all horse oriented is having a lot of work done on the barn opposite the school, so there are some great desensitizing diggers, dump truck, men with pick axes, building materials and today a pneumatic drill within 20 yrds of the school fence! Haven't fallen off yet and we can make it up to the edge of the school , will be interesting to see if all of this helps the next test on Sunday:)
 
Feel for you both, some days seems like everything is out to get you! Still great results though given circumstances, really well done x
 
That's crap :( I've seen some imbicile-y behaviour at competitions before including someone practicing their 'extended' trot as they entered the arena side by side with someone that was trying to shoulder in during a test....

Well done though. They are looking in summer condition despite the cold weather coming in. Fabby Boys.

Nice! Thank you re: condition. I was worried Fig was losing weight, but he seems to have picked up again so can only assume he had tucked up a bit from 3 relatively easy weeks being a sicknote!

I was the girl on the incredibly wound up chestnut!! Fair to say he didn't enjoy the intensity of the warm-up one bit. Apologies again for when he shot towards Fig, like you say, didn't help that people kept aiming for him.

Well done though, Fig is lovely and the international arena was intimidating for them. Mine wouldn't go anywhere near A and did exactly the same as Fig in one of the canters, then put in a flying change for good measure!! Gutted as know what he can do on his day!! Onwards and upwards like you say. G

Hah!! Like I said at the time, blummin well sat!

No that was definitely not your fault - your poor boy looked so wound up :( Massive sympathies! And even when people saw yours/mine spook and go shooting off, they still come round and canter right up to/at you again!!!!

At least you know he can do changes ;) Ah the infamous 'A' in the international, the box above it ticks and buzzes, I always try and circle underneath it when I go in!

Next year ours *will* be the calm sensible dope on a ropes!

Great results under the circumstances and the boys are looking fab.

Took my boy out fro his first test in 18 mnths a few weeks ago, he decided that he couldn't possibly go near the judges car, led to some interesting moves. Since then the yard owner who isn't at all horse oriented is having a lot of work done on the barn opposite the school, so there are some great desensitizing diggers, dump truck, men with pick axes, building materials and today a pneumatic drill within 20 yrds of the school fence! Haven't fallen off yet and we can make it up to the edge of the school , will be interesting to see if all of this helps the next test on Sunday:)

Haha!!! Well if that won't make him grow up, what will? Makes me laugh, because Fig will quite happily pass a moving tractor without blinking, be run off the road by lorries and buses, but another horse? Noooo way. Good luck for Sunday :)

Thanks everyone - we're all having a few days off 'work' here!
 
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Welldone both of you. did blue java win one of your ror classes?

I did a double take at this, I used to ride Blue Java at Hughie Morrisons. That was some time ago, had to google his pics on ROR to just check. Funniest thing he did once, when I was not on him, was trying to hump the colt in front of him as we walked around the yard before going up the gallop, he got his front feet on the poor colt's bum and everything! Also rode David Trott's Theme Park when he was in training too, really nice to see them having gone onto better things. Sorry off topic to the Sparkle sisters. Well done on some fab outings!
 
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Ahhh that would explain his issue with A!! Very nearly flew out the side door a couple of times there, was also surprised they weren't closing the doors to either school. particularly the national arena with the warm up right next to it.

He sounds rather like Fig, I could probably ride him down the busiest A-road in the country and he wouldn't bat an eye lid, he'll jump anything cross country but a busy warm-up sends him loopy! Was quite relieved when my time came to go in the ring tbh! Believe it or not he's steadily getting better. We'll crack it next year. Was nice to meet you (albeit rather brief). And yes, we'll be dragging them around next year....
 
I did a double take at this, I used to ride Blue Java at Hughie Morrisons. That was some time ago, had to google his pics on ROR to just check. Funniest thing he did once, when I was not on him, was trying to hump the colt in front of him as we walked around the yard before going up the gallop, he got his front feet on the poor colt's bum and everything! Also rode David Trott's Theme Park when he was in training too, really nice to see them having gone onto better things. Sorry off topic to the Sparkle sisters. Well done on some fab outings!

Wow! What a connection!!! Must be nice to see him going so well after racing :)

Thank you!

Ahhh that would explain his issue with A!! Very nearly flew out the side door a couple of times there, was also surprised they weren't closing the doors to either school. particularly the national arena with the warm up right next to it.

He sounds rather like Fig, I could probably ride him down the busiest A-road in the country and he wouldn't bat an eye lid, he'll jump anything cross country but a busy warm-up sends him loopy! Was quite relieved when my time came to go in the ring tbh! Believe it or not he's steadily getting better. We'll crack it next year. Was nice to meet you (albeit rather brief). And yes, we'll be dragging them around next year....

I was also, very surprised they weren't closing the door!!! But hey ho, the ponies did their best at the time :)

Rome wasn't built in a day, Fig still has his very sharp and very silly days and this is now the end of his second season. Yes and you :)

Just as an update - results are up - Blue Java won the Prelim. Aswaal won the Novice. And it was Kahyasi Jack (ridden by Karen Baxter, not Mathers!) that won the Elem.

Well done to all - really lovely to see the entries up on last year, and that everyone is starting to get more involved with ROR.
 
Well done. The boys are looking fab and you've had a very good year, even if it didn't end exactly the way you would have liked. Onward and upward.

Re the surroundings. . .but it's the same for everyone, isn't it? I've had plenty of close shaves in collecting rings over the years (and a few that were more than close) but then, you know what? No doubt I've caused a few, too! Not intentionally but because **** happens. Hard as it is, I don't think it helps anyone's mental state to attribute it to malice or even intentional stupidity on the part of fellow competitors. Everyone - horses included - is under stress at a competition and stress sometimes makes people do odd things! I've seen horses freak out, riders cut each other up etc at the highest level of the sport - if you are waiting for the day it doesn't happen, good luck!

I don't mean that in a cranky way, just perhaps as a note to other less experienced competitors reading. One of the cornerstones of sport psychology is to isolate your own performance and try to be as unaffected as possible by outside influences that you cannot possibly ever control. Sometimes it is not possible to remove yourself from a situation but you can train yourself to be less affected. I'm sure, OP, when those things happen, you are experienced enough to not let it affect your riding at all, but I deal a lot with people newer to competing or competing on horses they have had to work through training or behavioural issues and it's important to them to consciously work on their relaxation until it becomes a habit.
 
Just thinking along the same lines as Tarr Steps, is it possible to set up a similar situation at home with each other or even with a friend or neighbour's horse randomly appearing at one end of your arena, walking past (or even trotting if it's safe to do so), disappearing and then coming back again?
I only ask because my youngster gets hideously distracted at home - our little indoor is across the yard from the barn, and if someone so much as shakes a haynet... but it has taught me to engage his concentration (and mine) which helps him a lot at shows. Our warm ups can also be pretty hairy too...although he's fairly used to reining horses aiming at him :D He has never freaked out though, and I put this down to the 'anything goes' atmosphere at the yard where he was started, where people could be wandering, leading horses past and in the case of the kids, running or cycling past the school without any notice and he just had to live with it...
 
I absolutely get what you mean TS, getting in the zone is a hugely important part of warming up.
I guess what drops my jaw, is people who are just so utterly oblivious, who just sweep out a circle and smear people up the fence or miss you by an inch and don't apologise? We all do silly things occasionally but I always apologise if I'm in the wrong and if someone is having a hard time/ clinging on by their eyelids I always give them room.
Just having manners and open eyes?!
The open/ closed door thing did annoy me as both NMT, myself and a few friends have been victims of people choosing to paste their horse next to the open door and upset our horses mid test ( I don't just mean cantering past I mean full on smacking and screeching). Just because no one else thought/ cared to shut the door, I'm not sure that means we had to keep it open? If I could be bothered I'd mention the steward to BD too because standing 6 inches from the boards waving your arms is not on but it's not going to be the same person next year so what are they actually going to do, nothing, not worth the aggro of emailing.
Next year ill speak to the organiser when we arrive and clarify the door situation, on sun I ran out of time as NMT was already in the ring. It's never an issue at normal shows so why it was deemed a prob on sun I don't know....
 
Re the surroundings. . .but it's the same for everyone, isn't it? I've had plenty of close shaves in collecting rings over the years (and a few that were more than close) but then, you know what? No doubt I've caused a few, too! Not intentionally but because **** happens. Hard as it is, I don't think it helps anyone's mental state to attribute it to malice or even intentional stupidity on the part of fellow competitors. Everyone - horses included - is under stress at a competition and stress sometimes makes people do odd things! I've seen horses freak out, riders cut each other up etc at the highest level of the sport - if you are waiting for the day it doesn't happen, good luck!

I don't mean that in a cranky way, just perhaps as a note to other less experienced competitors reading. One of the cornerstones of sport psychology is to isolate your own performance and try to be as unaffected as possible by outside influences that you cannot possibly ever control. Sometimes it is not possible to remove yourself from a situation but you can train yourself to be less affected. I'm sure, OP, when those things happen, you are experienced enough to not let it affect your riding at all, but I deal a lot with people newer to competing or competing on horses they have had to work through training or behavioural issues and it's important to them to consciously work on their relaxation until it becomes a habit.

I agree and disagree.

I think a majority of collecting ring whoopsies could be avoided (not just mine btw, in general), if people used their brains a little more... I know Fig is sparky, I try and stay out of peoples way. I ask for 'more room please' if I see someone is coming too close. As for launching out the ring into the warm up, and smashing into other horses, well that is plain stupid.

I do agree however that it is part of competing, and quite frankly part of life. They have to (the horse) and we have to learn to cope with it. By experience or otherwise.

**** does indeed happen, but that shouldn't be an excuse not to put your (general) brain in gear.
 
Oh dear, I didn't see any major collisions or upsets for the hour I was in the warm up, it must have been me that was the numpty! - sorry to all if this is the case. Most likely, we were evidently the fish out of water.... I did apologise to you Nic for crossing your path once. Tried to keep out of the way of the chestnut in the ex.sheet, by staying at the other end of the school and not approaching from behind, I know once I had a minor steering failure when my F tried to dodge a particularly fetlock deep boggy horrid bit of school on the track and we got a bit close to one horse.

Although there were a couple of occasions people stopped on the track or wandered onto it, I do usually call out if I want to come outside people to warn them (Especially when we're all on RoRs) I thought the warm up when I happened to be in it was remarkably quiet and polite and lacking misadventures and horses very well behaved, I have seen and been in many worse! (Again, must have been me crashing around, I'm used to working in with 8-10 horses in a 20x40 so I thought I was quite observant but a BD warmup has different expectations!)
 
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Well done to both of you, what a fantastic year you've had. NMT - I know you're a bit disappointed but to come 4th and 3rd in a national championship with those scores is nothing to be disappointed about!

No doubt I've caused a few, too! Not intentionally but because **** happens.

Agree with this! I used to own a horse that would take an instant and irrational dislike to one other horse in each collecting ring we went in, in a "today it's you" kind of way. He would never do anything 'naughty' but would certainly give the other poor horse the evil eye each time we went near it.

I remember warming up for dressage in a huge collecting ring at a horse trials at Osberton, he'd chosen the enemy for that day and I was doing my best to keep out of their way. However, the rider quite innocently rode near us, my horse gave it a glare (nothing more - not even a tail swish), the other horse (obviously also a diva) took complete exception to this and decided to bronc his rider off before proceeding to gallop straight through the middle of around 6 dressage arenas. The carnage was quite unbelievable - riders on the floor, judges out of their cars stratching their heads, stewards trying to catch loose horses.....

Needless to say, I apologised profusely and legged it to hide in the lorry :o
 
Horses look fab as ever, what a shame about the numpties you encountered!!

I am hoping to get my 4yo out competing next year but you've put me right off now! Lol!!

Don't be put off!

Just give yourself lots of time so you can putter around and stay out of trouble and you'll be fine. :)
 
Oh dear, I didn't see any major collisions or upsets for the hour I was in the warm up, it must have been me that was the numpty! - sorry to all if this is the case. . . .(Again, must have been me crashing around, I'm used to working in with 8-10 horses in a 20x40 so I thought I was quite observant but a BD warmup has different expectations!)

This is why I take exception to phrases that refer to other people being "idiots" or wilfully disruptive when we have no idea what the back story is! These people read forums, too! It's more about language than content - there are ways of explaining extenuating circumstances without assuming.

Sorry, OP, I know this if off topic and you didn't mean it the way it comes off but I always cringe a bit when I read comments like the above. Okay, there are difficult people in the world - and perhaps shaming them on the internet is useful - but so many people will read themselves into those comments unfairly. Also, a lot of people will be used to riding on busy yards and in much less managed environments and so will have a higher tolerance for "stuff happening" than is usual at BD. This may be unfair but it doesn't make them stupid and everyone has to start somewhere.
 
It is so frustrating having your warm up destroyed by other people, I've found that some of our biggest professionals are the absolute worst ones for ramming into you, cutting you up and many other tricks to put you off. Sometimes I may have a badly behaved horse but I would never dream of deliberately winding up and upsetting other people's horses, its despicable :-(
 
Oh dear, I didn't see any major collisions or upsets for the hour I was in the warm up, it must have been me that was the numpty! - sorry to all if this is the case. Most likely, we were evidently the fish out of water.... I did apologise to you Nic for crossing your path once. Tried to keep out of the way of the chestnut in the ex.sheet, by staying at the other end of the school and not approaching from behind, I know once I had a minor steering failure when my F tried to dodge a particularly fetlock deep boggy horrid bit of school on the track and we got a bit close to one horse.

Although there were a couple of occasions people stopped on the track or wandered onto it, I do usually call out if I want to come outside people to warn them (Especially when we're all on RoRs) I thought the warm up when I happened to be in it was remarkably quiet and polite and lacking misadventures and horses very well behaved, I have seen and been in many worse! (Again, must have been me crashing around, I'm used to working in with 8-10 horses in a 20x40 so I thought I was quite observant but a BD warmup has different expectations!)

I was there from 12 onwards, did 3 warm ups and there were a fair number of :eeeeeeek: moments!!!

At every show there are people wandering about on the track!

I think we both had a minor steering failure when both the F's decided they wanted to go the same way :D But I can't think you your F caused mine any upset - in fact he quite seemed to like mooching about next to him whilst we had a natter :)

Well done to both of you, what a fantastic year you've had. NMT - I know you're a bit disappointed but to come 4th and 3rd in a national championship with those scores is nothing to be disappointed about!



Agree with this! I used to own a horse that would take an instant and irrational dislike to one other horse in each collecting ring we went in, in a "today it's you" kind of way. He would never do anything 'naughty' but would certainly give the other poor horse the evil eye each time we went near it.

No - I'm absolutely chuffed to bits with him. Just *so* wanted him to have a positive day, regardless of % or placing. It's a horrible feeling when your own horse won't let you in his head, and I felt like a right useless lemon as I couldn't get him confident about where he was and what he was doing, when he can do it all with his eyes shut (although I'd rather he didn't!).

I laughed quite hard at the 'today it's you' bit!!!! Fig does sneer and put his ears back at times :o

It's more about language than content - there are ways of explaining extenuating circumstances without assuming.

Ok - point taken :) But my observation still stands that it doesn't take anyone with an above average IQ to steer clear of the horses that are obviously and genuinely nervous (and indeed riders). There is no need to repeatedly ride up to them - and I did request that they shouldn't - that is what I find rude. I've been on both ends - Fig pratting about vs someone else's pratting about - so I'd like to think I've had a taste of EC's. I try and keep him away as I'd be mortified if he upset anyone else's horse - I'm not sure why that's so difficult to comprehend (not for you to comprehend, the general 'you'!)

I stand by my original comment that half entering your horse into a test arena, whilst someone else is mid test, is extremely rude.

It is so frustrating having your warm up destroyed by other people, I've found that some of our biggest professionals are the absolute worst ones for ramming into you, cutting you up and many other tricks to put you off. Sometimes I may have a badly behaved horse but I would never dream of deliberately winding up and upsetting other people's horses, its despicable :-(

Perversely I find the professionals much more aware of their space, and everyone else's! Perhaps it comes with practice, but I try to look over my shoulder/look up/to the sides before turning/halting/etc (just practice from competing, I am a lowly amateur!). It's just common sense. And manners. But those 2 qualities seem to be absent in all manner of sports/situations....!!! (massively tongue in cheek btw!)

At the end of it all - I am bursting with pride for Fig. He's such a dude :) Chuffed to bits for PS too, who has worked so hard and turned CS (labeled a 'nappy ungenuine ...norty word...') into a really rather extraordinary horse :)
 
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It really was the weekend of inconsiderate imbeciles wasn't it!
They are always around when I compete, more so with my little ex-racer, who doesn't like people running up her bum, hence red ribbon, but nobody seems to understand what it means.

Anyway well done both of you, lovely boys and you have done so well with both of them. Good luck for the future..xx
 
They are always around when I compete, more so with my little ex-racer, who doesn't like people running up her bum, hence red ribbon, but nobody seems to understand what it means.

Anyway well done both of you, lovely boys and you have done so well with both of them. Good luck for the future..xx

:( We're going to try a red ribbon with Fig. Be interesting to see just how much (or none!) difference it makes...

Big paper cheque pinned to my bedroom wall :) :superproud:
 
I think we both had a minor steering failure when both the F's decided they wanted to go the same way :D But I can't think you your F caused mine any upset - in fact he quite seemed to like mooching about next to him whilst we had a natter :)

Ah phew, thought I'd committed some major faux pas - other than turning up looking like I'm going to the opening meet!

Fiddley did seem to approve of Figgley and vice versa! ;-)
 
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