The best homozygeous coloured stallion to use

I have slept on this before I have decided to post, I have been reported twice to admin now and only on my posts containing the word Homozygous stallion didnt say homozyous for a colour! but its upsetting someone and all I can say to that person is we thank you for telling us how good we are cheers we must be a treat to there stallion
 
Angrove - it is not only you. I have been reported for talking about my young PRIVATE 2 yr old stallion as advertising. Have also been reported for advertising of the stallion I used on my mare last year and the resulting posts about my gorgeous foal as my posting pictures of said foal was taken by someone as my advertising the stallion!!!! I was only in both cases posting proud mum posts a)about my colt and b)about my filly!!! It does seem to me though on here that if you post about a foreign bred foal no one complains!!! So don't worry angrove...not just you!
 
Hi Event rider I was also very proud to see a foal we had a part in creating and the other post with the H word in it, how many posts have you had pulled?
 
It does seem to be getting to a point where the site should be called breeding but not to mention Stallion that may be owned or was owned, not to mention Foals by said Stallions etc etc getting silly isnt it
 
I think it is silly really, I know from HHO POV people promoting stallions on here means they may not need to advertise in mag but I actually think oppsosite is true. If people see their stallion's being discussed favourably and chatted about, etc then, iMO they are more likely to place an add in the magazine. Not to mention, as I have said before...how can you have a successful breeding board without mentioning the breeding of the horses??? Not to mentnion stallion discussions?? If someone asks about a which stallion post, I would LOVE for the stallion owner/those with personal experience to be able to come on and give personal info and details!!!
 
I also had a post removed with homozygous in it.
I do see all kind of trolls asking questions about how is this cremello or that homozygous stallion? And within minutes all kind of posts with positive stories about that stallion pop up.

You can better allow reviews or posts about a stallion otherwise don't call this section "breeding".
 
It's got silly because a 'few' have ruined it for the rest of us by either obviously promoting their stallion or by being crafty and posting a question which leads to you checking out their website.
I personally think you should be allowed to answer posts and mention your own stallion but there are those that abuse that and post tons of pics and really brag.
 
I think this thread has gone completly off track and I think if we want to discuss owners not being allowed to mention their stallions then please start a new thread, I would be more than happy to comment on that as I think its a shame too.
But as I say this thread has lost its way from my original post...
 
As a S******* Owner we are not allowed to even start a thread that even mentions our own stallion not being allowed to be posted so its down to someone who does not own one to post.
 
They'll have you guys with pictures of your stallion on your signature having to pay for that soon! It is bad. I think it is two different categories of people who go on here and people who buy the magazine. So much for free speech hey!?
 
I have seen some very nice foals by Buenno this year, Airborn is also homozygous I believe. Browsing google I noticed that Westpoint Stud has Goshka Ringo available this year.
 
For those interested ... a -by no means complete! - list of known homozygous tobiano stallions:

Australia:
TomTom (What's Colour) = homoz. Black AND Tobiano

Belgium:
Cesaer Ter Linder = homoz. Black AND Tobiano (www.hoeveterlinden.be)

France:
Zorro van Erpekom = homoz. Black AND Tobiano (http://monsite.orange.fr/zorro.van.erpekom/page1.html)

England:
Goshka Ringo = homoz. Black AND Tobiano
Sempers Spirit = homoz. Black AND Tobiano

Germany:
Chess M = homoz. Black AND Tobiano

the Netherlands:
Colorance = homoz. Tobiano, heteroz. Black/Red AND Agouti
James Bont Junior = homoz. Tobiano AND Red (chestnut) AND homoz. reces. Agouti (aa)

U.S.A.:
Sempatico = homoz. Black AND Tobiano
State of the Art = homoz. Tobiano, ?? Black

There are however quite a few heterozygous tobiano available.
 
But of all those listed and maybe some more, only Sempatico M and Chess M are approved for Warmblood breeding and have a full 70 days performance test which allows them to have foals with most all major Warmblood Breed Associations
 
flyingcolors said:
But of all those listed and maybe some more, only Sempatico M and Chess M are approved for Warmblood breeding and have a full 70 days performance test which allows them to have foals with most all major Warmblood Breed Associations
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And may be your Chess did a performancetest but what Ringo, What's Colour and Sempers Spirit have ahead of him is: offspring...and many offspring, good scoring at gradings and shows. The first 2 of Ceasar are also born at Elvingston stud and the 3rd yesterday at Scotland AI Service.

Now...Chess is covering since 2007, where is his offspring!?
 
You're welcome! I am sure that there are others that may be included in the list as being homozygous tobiano but unfortunately this specific information is often missing on the stallions page.

Actually the list has about 20 stallions on it but only those mentioned above have confirmed colour and pattern DNA testing information.

Wat you most definitely have to take into consideration when choosing a coloured stallion for a warmblood mare is of course whether or not the foal will be eligible for main book registration in the Warmblood Studbook of choice. If you are happy to go with a sport registered stallion, go for it, the list has more candidates, but if you are looking for warmblood registration,then the list gets very very short.

If anyone is interested .... don't want to polute the topic ... I can provide more coloured stallion names but most are heterozygous for tobiano.
 
markvannunen said:
Now...Chess is covering since 2007, where is his offspring!?
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THis is his offspring - and how delighted am i with him!!!! Getting placed in Major county shows in the UK!!!

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Chess is NOT breeding since 2007.

He was going for approval first, we do not breed before a stallion does not have a breeding license unlike you do.

He went for training in 2008 in spring and entered the performence test in July 2008 where he was until September 2008. Since the performance test was of more interest than making money first he was not heavily promoted in 2008, so only two mare owners ordered semen, one in England and the resulting 2009 foal you have just seen and one in Germany and it was presented to the Oldenburg Verband and went premium awarded which is not easy for a coloured foal and Oldenburg Association!

In 2009 as everyone knows, I fell into the hands of a fraudster and only a few mares could get semen. One mare died at giving birth unfortunately - foal and mare lost for the breeder as their replacement vet was not able to do a cesearienne (spelling?) - and most breeders do not send pictures at all.

To avoid this happening and since there are now a good number of mares in foal - he is at a top AI center that is also the AI center of Brookhouse Stud which is certainly well known to all in UK - we will have a competition up for the best tobiano foal by him in 2011 and that mare gets a free return. I hope this will make mare owners want to send in pictures of their foals and to also take good ones as most people are not good with picture taking and I would rather not have pictures up than bad pictures!
 
ColourFan said:
For those interested ... a -by no means complete! - list of known homozygous tobiano stallions:

Australia:
TomTom (What's Colour) = homoz. Black AND Tobiano

Belgium:
Cesaer Ter Linder = homoz. Black AND Tobiano (www.hoeveterlinden.be)

France:
Zorro van Erpekom = homoz. Black AND Tobiano (http://monsite.orange.fr/zorro.van.erpekom/page1.html)

England:
Goshka Ringo = homoz. Black AND Tobiano
Sempers Spirit = homoz. Black AND Tobiano

Germany:
Chess M = homoz. Black AND Tobiano

the Netherlands:
Colorance = homoz. Tobiano, heteroz. Black/Red AND Agouti
James Bont Junior = homoz. Tobiano AND Red (chestnut) AND homoz. reces. Agouti (aa)

U.S.A.:
Sempatico = homoz. Black AND Tobiano
State of the Art = homoz. Tobiano, ?? Black

There are however quite a few heterozygous tobiano available.
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England
Angrove Spotted Dick TO TO DNA tested and a pedigree he is not names so does ot appear on Ned by name
 
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