The best video to prove barefoot (I'm not a BF fanatic!)

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I am not trying to lecture anyone just thought it was food for thought

I've always had my horse shod at least on front until the last 2 years where I've started to look into things a bit more. I tried BF for a while but didn't keep going

However I decided to look into it yet again and am now convinced it is at worth trying

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EL_45ml-TlI
 

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I'm sorry I can't watch that! Had to stop it the moment I saw the inside of the top of it! Very sqeamish!! Feel free to elaborate though as I'm very interested in the topic! :)
 

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It's interesting though watching that, that the shoe doesn't actually stop the hoof 'flexing' (which i assumed it would) but it's the peripheral loading on a hard surface that causes the lack of function.

Thanks for posting!
Trina x
 

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I'm sorry I can't watch that! Had to stop it the moment I saw the inside of the top of it! Very sqeamish!! Feel free to elaborate though as I'm very interested in the topic! :)

It's interesting though watching that, that the shoe doesn't actually stop the hoof 'flexing' (which i assumed it would) but it's the peripheral loading on a hard surface that causes the lack of function.

Thanks for posting!
Trina x

This video is what tipped it for me when I made my decision. Thanks for posting :)

Please remember this is MY take on this as an average horse owner who is educating herself best she can!!
Basically it says its the way the some farriers don't allow the frog and sole to touch the ground properly that it prevents the hoof wall expanding as it should as a shock absorber and affects the way the inside of the hoof works.

Trina I was shocked at that too, but I still think it expands better and more equally both sides without the shoe, what is pleasing is that if you don't want to go BF or can't, then as long as the frog and sole contact the ground it would be better than how we see a lot of horses shod.

tallyho your welcome and yes it is the deciding factor for me, I had been looking for such a comparison for a while which is why I posted it, as I am sure there isn't just me waiting for final proof so to speak :D
 

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Good for you;) You won't regret it if you follow the principles 100%.

I decided to take the plunge after several months of reading and research, my trimmer says it's those people that generally stick to barefoot rather than someone who decides because it's a fashion or on a whim.
Have you seen Pete Rameys website? Loads of great info on there.
I decided to give it 100% for one year and I never looked back.
Remember if you only give it half measures, you'll only get half way results:D
Good luck
 

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The 2 short films at the very bottom of this page will I hope also back –up your reasons for going BF
http://www.rockfoot.com/why.html

yeah I saw those but still found this one to be the biggest conformation for me personally

I wish the 2nd video was a second longer, (the one with the unshod horse landing) for me it is good, but just a second too short for any one who needs convincing it could look like they are deliberately missing the end :p
 

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Good for you;) You won't regret it if you follow the principles 100%.

I decided to take the plunge after several months of reading and research, my trimmer says it's those people that generally stick to barefoot rather than someone who decides because it's a fashion or on a whim.
Have you seen Pete Rameys website? Loads of great info on there.
I decided to give it 100% for one year and I never looked back.
Remember if you only give it half measures, you'll only get half way results:D
Good luck

yeah had a bit of a hiccup with that! I started to change to the diet fed high fibre cubes, linseed meal, mag ox, no sugar chaff but then he needed 3 lots of antibiotics over the last 3 months and will only eat it when I add molasses :( I tried no sugar apple squash and he didn't like it

oh well we are back on track from tomorrow.
Anything else I should be adding or doing

he will be coming off box rest as soon as ground improves for PSD surgery so atm has to have heartbars on the back but they will come off asap. unshod in front
I am hoping I have found a new farrier, waiting for him to get back too me he is a farrier and BF trimmer so fingers crossed (was recommended by someone on here
 

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Trina I was shocked at that too, but I still think it expands better and more equally both sides without the shoe, what is pleasing is that if you don't want to go BF or can't, then as long as the frog and sole contact the ground it would be better than how we see a lot of horses shod.

I genuinely thought that a steel shoe would stop any flexing, but yes, you are right - it is definately better without the shoe. However, it is more reassuring for those who have to shoe (for whatever reason) that it is possible to provide 'better' circumstances.

I think back to when i was a child and the thought of nailing feet horrified me for a start, but then i also remember wondering why we place the whole weight of the horse on a trampoline effect foot, when surely the ground itself is more sturdy. But then, i was told that was the way it was and like many never really questioned it again until i started looking at everything more holistically. The more i learn, the more shoeing baffles me and barefoot makes total sense.

Trina x
 

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Trina, I totally agree with you, I also never questioned it in all 20+ years of being with horses. I started with an unshod pony and had an unshod cob but no special diet or anything, just rough grass. The rest were all shod and I just relied/trusted on farriers.... there were problems with some horses I knew e.g. tendons, navicular etc and see them pts but I thought that was just par for the course. Not until I had my own lami/navi four years ago that I started to ASK QUESTIONS!!!

To quote you "The more I learn (about hooves).... barefoot makes total sense"

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im not a traditional barefooter (though 2 of mine are barefoot just as they dont need shoes as they have feet like bullets!) but i am interested to learn- having looked at that video, i wonder what effect a bar shoe would have? as the support over the frog would at least show some frog action- wouldnt it?

and to me the video showed that barefoot only helps if the horse is trimmed in that way, with the frog lower than the foot?

not trying to start an argument but interested to learn :)
 

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and to me the video showed that barefoot only helps if the horse is trimmed in that way, with the frog lower than the foot?

I'm not sure how else you could trim a foot really :confused: That's just how horses feet grow so unless you didn't trim at all, and did no work on hard ground/on the road/on sand you'd never find an unshod horse who's frog wasn't in contact with the ground.
 

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Sorry to hi-jack but I am have been thinking about going barefoot, she had her shoes taken off christmas time, mainly because the farrier didn't have time to put anymore on.

Can anyone recommend either a farrier or trimmer that covers East Yorkshire, i've looked on the UKNHCP website and no-one comes over this way.

Thanks
 

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yeah had a bit of a hiccup with that! I started to change to the diet fed high fibre cubes, linseed meal, mag ox, no sugar chaff but then he needed 3 lots of antibiotics over the last 3 months and will only eat it when I add molasses :( I tried no sugar apple squash and he didn't like it

oh well we are back on track from tomorrow.
Anything else I should be adding or doing

he will be coming off box rest as soon as ground improves for PSD surgery so atm has to have heartbars on the back but they will come off asap. unshod in front
I am hoping I have found a new farrier, waiting for him to get back too me he is a farrier and BF trimmer so fingers crossed (was recommended by someone on here


ooh as you local to me - can you let me know who you have ben recommended??? - is he def a farrier and a trimmer??? - i currently use my farrier but last time took frog off i nearly died - hes the best i can get round here and to be fair she is still sound and had no adverse effects but would prefer someone more into trimming for working a horse
 

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I'm not sure how else you could trim a foot really :confused: That's just how horses feet grow so unless you didn't trim at all, and did no work on hard ground/on the road/on sand you'd never find an unshod horse who's frog wasn't in contact with the ground.

see i thought that but when the shoe was first removed it looked like the frog wasnt properly in contact
 

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Doh, just wrote out a reply and found I'd managed to log myself out :confused:

I think that's the point OTR, he's trying to demonstrate that even without shoes, the horse hasn't yet been trimmed properly, and is still peripherally loading, then he trims it to illustrate how it *should* be loading when correctly trimmed :)

IMO, that should be done gradually, to allow the internal structures to strengthen slowly and not make the horse sore, but in this case I think we can be sure the horse is pretty sore regardless, what with having a foot missing and all ;) :p

Great videos, moorman's video, especially the one of the shod horse was super! Shame they weren't longer :(

AND the laminitis bit was brilliant and gruesome :D

J&C
 

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I'm not sure how else you could trim a foot really :confused: That's just how horses feet grow so unless you didn't trim at all, and did no work on hard ground/on the road/on sand you'd never find an unshod horse who's frog wasn't in contact with the ground.


Backalong,farriers,having removed the shoe (because the horse was no longer in work,or was a pony/cob in very light work;)) would leave plenty of wall...to offer protection.
Glad to say that farriers have progressed from this and ther are now many specialist barefoot farriers in the country.
 
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