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The brutally honest confo thread!
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Wagtail
Horse servant
I can't see the pictures.
Wagtail
Horse servant
Ah can now!
Do you have any side on rather than 3/4 view?
Do you have any side on rather than 3/4 view?
Northern
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Got a better picture of K, and it's big too! Would love some opinions 
Wagtail
Horse servant
Got a better picture of K, and it's big too! Would love some opinions
She's a sweet looing horse. Obviously in some useful work. Looing at her hid legs which are nice and long from hip to hock, (though slightly sickle),k I bet she moves well and has a good jump in her. Her neck is a bit thin and low set on - could do with some top line. Her shoulder is slightly upright. Front legs are okay until you get to the long pasterns. She may be a bit over at the nee but it's very slight. Feet are broken back with under run heels at the front and upright and broken forwards behind. So not great conformation, but then some of the very best horse athletes have not been great either.
rara007
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My young (not that young- 6 this year, been in work 9 months now) pony. Not many without rider I'm afraid!
Wagtail
Horse servant
My young (not that young- 6 this year, been in work 9 months now) pony. Not many without rider I'm afraid!
Ah, saw the first photograph and saw the crest and was about to say something until I realised he was a stallion! I think he's gorgeous. A little fat, but gorgeous. In the top pic he loos bum high, but not in the other two. Lovely head, well set on neck, lovely shoulder and nice legs.
Northern
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Thanks Wagtail! Definitely gels with my thoughts of her. She's an eventer and we've just moved up to 80cm (Intro here in Aus). She's quite a nice neat mover, nothing overly spectacular, but definitely not the worst. She does have a nice jump in her too, though can get quite hot (typical of her breeding). She's completely perfect for what I do with her! We're in a season change at the moment and she's lost a bit of topline, sorting that out with some hillwork.
Wagtail
Horse servant
I actually really like her despite her faults. I've had a lot of TBs and so am used to long sloping pasterns. My current mare is TB x WB and has long sloping pasterns too.
Skewbaldbow
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Bump... Anyone any thoughts on mine?
Here is Bow, an 11 year old TB x with god knows what!
And the other side (and not looking forward because my OH was moving the trailer at the time...)
And one just because he looks pretty and actually looks almost like a proper showhorse for once...
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Casey76
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No, I agree, the camera angle can make all the difference, as can the backdrop.
Here Tartine looks (just about) even:
here not so much!
Northern
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She's taught me a lot, was my very first horse (got her as a four year old - I know, no one died lol). She's certainly one of a kind
Caol Ila
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Bump... Anyone any thoughts on mine?
I like his big feet and sloping shoulder. In the photos his hind end looks a wee bit straight and he's standing camped under. He has a shark fin wither (like my horse) which makes saddle fitting fun.
He looks lovely and uphill in the photo of him trotting.
Wagtail
Horse servant
Interested to see what you all think of mine. Think I know of his main faults but interesting to see if others opinions are the same!
Here is Bow, an 11 year old TB x with god knows what!
And the other side (and not looking forward because my OH was moving the trailer at the time...)
And one just because he looks pretty and actually looks almost like a proper showhorse for once...
Another very smart horse. I love his splodges - quite unusual. He doesn't have any major faults. The one which stands out the most to me is that he is quite straight through the hocks. He has an attractive head and decent neck. He is a little upright in his shoulder, but not glaringly so. He is standing camped under in front, I don't now if that's typical or not. I lie his back and his rump. He has a nice amount of muscle too. Feet loo good, but are a little long in front (possibly due for the farrier?)
Skewbaldbow
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Thanks both. He doesn't normally stand that camped under! I think he had spotted the trailer was coming out so was anticipating the tail and leg bandages going on!
Caol Ila, he definitely has huge feet... first time he was shod after we moved the farrier didn't bring big enough shoes and had to come back another day with them... Wagtail he is due in the next week or so so that's probably why they look a bit long (I know spring is here when we get accelerated feet growth!)
Glad you think he is muscled up and looks uphill in his trot. He is slightly croup high so we've been working on getting him to really sit on his bum a bit more since he naturally leans on the forehand (hard work for both of us since he'd much rather spend time jumping than working on our flatwork!)
SpringArising
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My young (not that young- 6 this year, been in work 9 months now) pony. Not many without rider I'm afraid!
Such a gorgeous pony, but I'm sorry I do think you are too big for him. The saddle is too small for you and you're sitting right on the cantle.
rara007
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Good job that doesn't come into confo then
FWIW it's a standard 17 inch saddle and I'm nearly 5'4, breeches are size 26, we've been out pretty much every weekend and to date no one who has seen us either in RL or on threads posted on here with pictures and videos has commented. Neither have the several vets who have seen him (Im friends with lots!) or the physio who's seen him twice (neither time found any back based issues)
Wagtail
Horse servant
Good job that doesn't come into confo then
People are unlikely to comment TBH. I do think you look too heavy for him but assumed you were just doing a small amount of schooling or showing with him and were not his regular rider. I'm afraid that I have to agree with SpringArising that you look to big for him. Sorry.
AdorableAlice
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Lets not go down the who is too big for their pony and stick to horse confo, here are two common bred types to have a go with.
ester
Not slacking multitasking
lol at people being unlikely to comment, on here they always have done! Thank goodness he is to be a driving pony :eek3: bless the little short arse who is just the right height for hugging
Wagtail
Horse servant
Lets not go down the who is too big for their pony and stick to horse confo, here are two common bred types to have a go with.
At first I thought they were both the same horse with and without feathers but have realised that's not the case.
Both have noble looking heads and well set on necks into a nice shoulder. The mare's shoulder is a little more upright than the gelding's. Both are slightly back at the knee. The mare is (possibly) bum high, but we all know photographs can be deceiving. Both are nice smart looking horses.
Elf On A Shelf
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I agree too I'm affraid. He's a strong, well put together pony but for showing the picture just doesn't look right. I speak from experience, i don't show my darty under saddle much any more as my thighs have got thicker and the picture just doesn't look right even though he carries me perfectly fine.
ester
Not slacking multitasking
Well 'good picture for showing' is a bit different to ability to carry comfortably as you say with your dartmoor, he has much bigger issues holding him back for showing 
and that is never really going to be his thing he isn't correct enough. He is just seeing the sights of the world with a bit of atmosphere and having an all round education before he has to deal with all those things in carriage and having seen the pair of them in real life I don't think he is likely to have an issues in the meantime as it would be foolish to break your hopefully international driving pony before you even get started .
So anyway, conformation?
and that is never really going to be his thing he isn't correct enough. He is just seeing the sights of the world with a bit of atmosphere and having an all round education before he has to deal with all those things in carriage and having seen the pair of them in real life I don't think he is likely to have an issues in the meantime as it would be foolish to break your hopefully international driving pony before you even get started .So anyway, conformation?
shirl62
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Bump... Anyone any thoughts on mine?
I don't know anything about conformation but he is a beautiful boy, just love his markings ...The first pic looks like he is thinking ''I didn't do that poop''
Shirl
rara007
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That there's no doubt about! He has two smaller (but still senior technically being a large breed) riders in the sidelines for if I wanted to take it seriously but temperamentally if we decided to show he'd be best off cut and in junior riders- it's a shame he's too big for FR (though realistically again he's still not to type enough)! We're lucky you rarely see kids on Cs around here so we don't stand out too much. As it is our flat showing chapter is pretty much over now we can safely say we have life skills and manners. You have to be 7 for FEI single driving so we have the whole year to play with to get there. Plan B for if we have too much of the polite and manners to roar round 20k is private drive
SpringArising
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He could be doing all those things with someone who is of a correct size to ride him though.
I hadn't seen any of Rara's previous pictures of her riding him and now that I have my opinion is exactly the same.
I don't understand why people are obtuse/in denial/touchy about this subject. We shouldn't tip-toe around what is clearly an issue (not solely Rara, obviously).
People often ride things that are way too small for them which is the case here.
ester
Not slacking multitasking
I guess it depends who you have available to you as a rider and whether you trust them to do a good enough job to correctly bring on your hopefully international pony- doing it right is quite important if you have that sort of aspiration for them.
The reason people are obtuse about the subject is because there is no defintion of ok/not ok, every scientific study is deeply flawed so many choose to take the evidence of the horse in front of them and the advice of the professionals surrounding them rather than people who have seen photos on an internet forum, quite a few of whom seem to have little idea what anything 11 stone+ actually looks like in male or female form. This forum is quite famous for making very low weight suggestions when asked about carrying weight of a variety of types, so I don't tend to use it's opinions as my benchmark.
The reason people are obtuse about the subject is because there is no defintion of ok/not ok, every scientific study is deeply flawed so many choose to take the evidence of the horse in front of them and the advice of the professionals surrounding them rather than people who have seen photos on an internet forum, quite a few of whom seem to have little idea what anything 11 stone+ actually looks like in male or female form. This forum is quite famous for making very low weight suggestions when asked about carrying weight of a variety of types, so I don't tend to use it's opinions as my benchmark.
Wagtail
Horse servant
I disagree. There are just as many people who mae very heavy suggestions for maximum weight carrying ability on this forum. That is why it is argued over so much.
ester
Not slacking multitasking
I didn't say everyone did I you never know one day everyone might meet in the middle but until anyone actually does a decent study it is all opinion and I would suggest none of them are good to use as a benchmark compared to those that have seen more than photos and are knowledgeable.
you never know one day everyone might meet in the middle but until anyone actually does a decent study it is all opinion and I would suggest none of them are good to use as a benchmark compared to those that have seen more than photos and are knowledgeable.