The first placed coloured racehorse in the UK

Also,you have very obvious love,pride and care for your horses-that's enough for me-why should it matter what you do/don't do with them/their results? As long as they're all still responsibly cared for or rehomed when their racing is over,nothing else is important. So many uncared for/mistreated horses out there(incl in racing,as well as leisure),so I think this criticism is wasted breath,personally :-/
 
Racergirl said:
I keep trying to write an answer here that isnt going to be jumped on, chiefly becuse Im all for the romance of breeding a winning racehorse and making it one that people will remember (for the right reasons!!) BUT Im also for responsible breeding, and theres a delicate balance in the racing world for that, and im afraid breeding coloureds into it doesnt float my boat. (but then I try to breed racehorses that people will want to buy, and angrove breed for fun, so its not quite the same thing)

but even taking out the unusual pedigree (which has already been pointed out) of this really rather nice chap (see - Im not heartless, I quite like him!) hes going to be 6 months behind everyone else if he races, which is still important as a 3 and 4 year old (although slightly less so the older he gets) seems an odd thing to do when you are wanting to promote coloureds as racehorses, why didnt you wait a few months to cover early next year and breed him to give him the best chance if you wanted him for the flat??

Not meant as a critisism - Im genuinely interested, I know you have a syndicate for Rummy, do you have a breeding one as well? there are quite a few people that would probably be interested in following one from the very start - Ive had a few people approach me to lease one of my mares for exactly this reason or start my own up - but as she aborted last year im not comfortable taking money off people for something that may not happen!!
What sort of mares are you hoping to get to Rummy when he finishes?
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Hello Racergirl I would have loved to have bred him earlier in the year but we only got the chance of this mare when a friend found her for me in july last year and as i am breeding for me and racing for me it did not worry me that this foal was late, also I had not got any of my own stallions stock and as i lost his dam and his brother last year this was an incrdibly emotionally driven decision so i went for it, i am not in the habbit of breeding this late funnily enough rummy was born at the same time of year and his dam became available in late june. both these mares come from a private yard and do not come up.

Venevidivici that is so kind thank you both my hubby and i devote our lives to our horse family our foals which we keep are like our children
 
Racegirl sorry i missed out some questions you asked, no plan for Rummy as yet he has only just started his career and i have not thought about it yet.also as far as Rummy is concerned I would like to see how he handles hurdles in racing before I make any decisions about mares but with his jump and staminer I would have thought dual race mares some that run on the flat over a mile and go hurdling as well.it would give the owner/breeder a lot more options with the resulting progeny, and no we do not have a breeding syndicate yet.
 
I can understand why you had the tears watching him, he looks stunning and it's so nice to hear Micky Hammond talking so enthusiastically about him. Very best of luck for his future.
 
Thank you dunthing I was so shocked to even see him but the icing on the cake was the interview it made an old couple very happy :)Mrs Claus thank you we are like a pair of doting grandparents if they did mother care for horses I would be broke!
 
Millikins said:
Well done Angrovestud. Hope I don't sound too stupid here as not familiar with how races/horses are graded but why can't he go Point to Point which is slower I think? Or what are "Hunter Chases"?
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Point to point is not actually that much slower than proper NH racing nowadays. And Hunter chasing is for the 'top end' pointers, some of who go on to race under rules, others who drop back after their racing career.
 
Rummy has now gone back up to Micky Hammonds yesterday, having enjoyed his short holiday break :) hes been doing road work for the last few weeks
 
EAST KENT said:
I must say I am interested to know how pure a TB he is, he does look decidedly chunky in those side-on pics.
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But in fairness you can get very chunky tbs....we've just sold one that was mega chunky and he was the full deal and won races. He was often mistaken as an old hunter around the yard because he didnt look remotely tb. Just because most can be quite fine doesn't mean they all are. If Rummy was by Presenting out of a Strong Gale mare you wouldn't be questioning his chunkiness!
 
Thank you amage,he is 87.5% TB hes not ure Tb his dam is a bit thick set round the gullet and he has a bit of this but then we does have 1/8th ID in there, Fatrascal on the other hand is so different much finer, but its the jumping that matters as well
 
Thank you sonjafoers I think its Fantastic to have a trainer who is so proud of your horse we are so lucky to have Micky Hammond and his team looking after Rummy and training him, what a difference a good trainer makes :D
 
Although I'm not directly involved in racing I thought that was a great interview, Micky Hammond came across really well and was very honest in his appraisals of the horses under discussion.

I really enjoyed seeing Rummy as part of the string Angrovestud, it's so unusual to see a coloured amongst the ubiquitous bays and it brought something special to the footage. The thing is he wouldn't be there if it wasn't felt he could make the mark and that's the icing on the cake really.

I love reading your threads about him and sometimes comment, partly because I have a coloured 7/8ths TB bred from NH stock but mainly because he's just so beautiful and is a sort of 'pathfinder' - I look forward to all your updates and pics :)
 
sonjafoers said:
Although I'm not directly involved in racing I thought that was a great interview, Micky Hammond came across really well and was very honest in his appraisals of the horses under discussion.

I really enjoyed seeing Rummy as part of the string Angrovestud, it's so unusual to see a coloured amongst the ubiquitous bays and it brought something special to the footage. The thing is he wouldn't be there if it wasn't felt he could make the mark and that's the icing on the cake really.

I love reading your threads about him and sometimes comment, partly because I have a coloured 7/8ths TB bred from NH stock but mainly because he's just so beautiful and is a sort of 'pathfinder' - I look forward to all your updates and pics :)
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Wow! that was so moving! I do hope more people want to see more coloured on the race track,I know even Micky was suprised by Rummys ability, and he was very honest and told me if he was no good he would not run him, and he would have been sent home, but right now he is the only coloured horse in the UK to have beaten 9 pure TBs in two races, Something I am so proud of I hope he can be a bigger pathfinder now and win a hurdle race now, that would be our Olympic Gold!:D
Thank you Freckles22uk
 
A friend has just bought a TB mare who is by Presenting out of a Strong Gale mare. She's tall and rangy and a proper NH build. She will go into training later this year. Very exciting!
 
How Exciting for your friend Rummy full sister is built like that to tall and longer then Rummy mind you he was a first foal :D
 
News on Angrove Rumbaba is very sadly on the 16th of November he injured his Check Ligament and on vets advice we have now retired him he had been entered for Wetherby on the 17th! its been a wonderful journey and we look forward to racing Angrove Fatrascal in the future.
if anyone is interested to watch the story of Rummy it is on the BBC web site inside out 7.30 in the North East and Cumbria very proud Mum.
 
I'm sorry to hear that he is injured. Check Ligaments aren't to be taken lightly and you have done the right thing by him. I hope he can carry on to be a normal horse for the future.
 
angrovestud said:
News on Angrove Rumbaba is very sadly on the 16th of November he injured his Check Ligament and on vets advice we have now retired him he had been entered for Wetherby on the 17th! its been a wonderful journey and we look forward to racing Angrove Fatrascal in the future.
if anyone is interested to watch the story of Rummy it is on the BBC web site inside out 7.30 in the North East and Cumbria very proud Mum.
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I am so sorry to read this post. Heartbreaking for you. Best of luck with Angrove Fatrascal.

Hugsx
 
EKW said:
It's kinda hard not to finish a bumper seeing as it is a flat race ...
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mmm not so sure really as even though a National Hunt bumper is run on the level horses can still fail to finish. Slipped up, brought down, ran out, refused to race and pulled up spring to mind .....
 
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