The good, the bad and the very very bad...

henryhorn

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Well today was the first time we attempted to travel Chocolate with a mare.
Loaded Layla, then him with two partitions between them with a gap, his view of her blocked etc and he went mental from the start.
We ended up tying him up with three lead ropes so he couldn't turn his head to her or climb over the partition (almost to the roof I might add).
He settled down and when we got there unloaded her then him. He was an absolute maniac, I can't tell you how he behaved, he lashed out with his front legs, kicked with his back ones, danced, screamd etc and in short behaved in a totally unlike himself manner. We hurridly decided to shove him back in the box, and so we did, he then proceeded to create upsetting horses all round with screams andthe chap next door glared at us, saying in a loud voice he didn't know what had upset his horse..
CCj set off on Layla in the 2' 3" and after a bit of a sticky first three fences she was fine, she hesitated at the water twice but otherwise jumped well.
Next class was 2' 6" and she didn't like number six a narrow sort of roll top, so after she dived past twice C missed it out and went and jumped a similar but lower one (eliminating herself o course) then did the remainder of the course very nicely. Layla isn't fit enough and tired towards the end but behaved sensiby and pleased us overall.
Back to the dreaded stallion.. A hurried call to husband brought him 20 miles to help, and between us we manged to stud him up in front, no way could we do behind which later on proved a mistake.
He was still breathing fire, screeching and dancing but she worked him in as usual.
At one point he was getting upset by some of the idiots ther today, one woman on a hard pulling bay actually cannoned into the rear of him at a canter..Others were cutting in front and behind the practice fences, I was shocked because they appeared to be event types, (so if you were there today madam on a very elegant white faced belly splashed white chesnut mare, learn some bl***y ettiquette!)
Sh popped the practice fence eventually despite the riders schooling round it on a small circle, then Chocx leapt in the air, his unstudded hind feet slid sideways, his front pitched forwards and down and CCJ flew off.. Her Dad and I were running like hell at this point as we were only 100 yards away, but the daft stallion got up, stood within a foot of her with a mortified expression on his face..(she's never come off him before) She calmly caught him and got back on..
She set off in the 2' 9" at storming pace ut decided to take the long way round the time section as he was not really concentrating at all. He ended up 10th with a rosette after a fast clear round in that class.
Back to the 3'-3'-3"..I wasn't there as by this time I'd set off with the groom for home to do th other horses, but as CCj said later, he was on a different planet in that round.. She got round reasonably well but he felt to be not really listening, and at the big open ditch he managed to skip out at the side. Jumped it next time.
Finished the rest but overall we had a foul day.. We found out Layla has come in season by being next to him, which of course is why he went mad, on the way home he reared several times and got his legs over one of the partitions, they had to stop to release him.
Not a good outing before Pontispool's Pre Novice, and although we were pleased with layla he was a pain in the arse.. normally we would wallop him and that brings him to his senses, but today he was so wound up nothing would haveworked, and I tapped him a few times with absolutely no results at all.. He threw himself sideways at his haynet when tied up and tried to scrape himself along the box, he reared and bashed the box sides, he struck out with his front legs etc, and you could see his frustration..
Our own fault of course and we won't travel him except alone again..
On the good side several people asked about using him at stud, as he jumped well when he thought about what he was supposed to be doing, but we are all knackered (I bet he is too) and have come home to Jonty to inject and hand walk (her knee is swelling today) others to check and feed and the box looks like a monsoon has hit it (he peed, so did the mare of course..)
One of those days best forgotten I reckon...
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Christ - it makes you wonder how these pros, dr and sj ppl especially, manage when travelling lorry-loads of them around all in together. Well done to all, CCJ sounds like she's a real pro.
 
I feel exhausted just reading it.
OH DEAR
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Thankfully i guess you found this out before going to something more important, like Laylas first BE event...

Silly sod, men are just so stupid sometimes.......

I know now why my old trainer bought a 6 horse oakley, when he only actually had 2 horses...one a stally the other a mare....
 
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Oh goodness, I'm exhausted just reading your report!
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Me tooooo!!

Lets hope that the next event is more successful
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i'm sure with practice - maybe with geldings on the lorry for a bit he'll get better. We had a nightmare stallion to travel but now a year later he goes on a 6 horse lorry with 5 others inc a mare or 2....

Hows he bred?
 
I was just thinking that I was exhausted reading the report!
If it makes you feel any better I have a Grade A Show Jumping Stallion and he is normally a saint but one day we got to Patchetts and he had a raving loony fit in the horsebox on arrival and managed to kick a big hole through the side of the wagon, needless to say he was in the doghouse! He was 20 whe this incident happened so I can hardly blame his age!!
 
Makes me feel better he isn't the only stallion to have a strop!
I don't think our lorry is big enough either to be truthful, it's a three horse but just too close for comfort to other horses for a stallion.
I may have to eat my words too after watching the video, although he hangs towards the collecting ring and the other horses over the first few fences , he actually jumps ok, and looking back at the course he did the entire Pre Novice course today and the ditch he hesitated at was considered too difficult by BE to include last year!
My husband put it into persepective, this is his sixth ever XC, so to jump as you will see in the vid, he wasn't that bad a boy....
I'll let CCj tell you about how she jumped one fence minus stirrups, another holding on to the breasplate, and another half hanging on... Sadly the camera didn't get any of that...
There's a good example on the vid by Layla of how not to do a step out of water too, with any luck the ouch she got will make her bounce better next time.
 
Oh dear- what a nightmare of a day
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He was such a docile little thing at Belmont, amazing how they can turn so quickly. Our stallion travels with geldings but we havent tried mares and I think maybe we wont now!!

She must be pleased with Layla though- I'm sure she'll get the idea of narrow fences soon enough
 
That was only half the story, we bought a new box after this incident (reinforced), and his behavour did't improved, we have to travel him to the AI centre and you should hear him when we turn into there drive, we arrive with the box swaying from side to side, anyway he went away to jump for the winter in 2005 (turning 22) and I warned my jockey when you get him to shows throw open the box nab him out as quickly as possible (pref travel him tacked up to save time) and ride him for 10 minutes and he'll then go back in and stand on the box quietly all day eating hay because this is what we had to start doing after his major tantrum at Patchetts, anyway just to be insulting he has never had a tantrum in her box, you don't get a squeak out of him, even when travelling with mares!
We finally came to the conclusion that he thinks of our horsebox as the sex wagon
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and hers as the work wagon
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I always have a pot of vick in my lorry and I make sure the colts and stallions have a liberel amount shoved up their nostrils, it seems to do the trick.
 
I can magine the box swaying, I tried giving him a rougher ride than usual on the way there to make him think about balancing as I could hear him squealing, but he was past reason by then.
We found once he was tacked up he was easier to deal with, but I can well see the AI scenario happening, in his mind ours would become a passion waggon too..
he has just had a session with CCJ and her dresage trainer and went better than I can ever recall, perhaps we should let him get worked up in future before a test!
What we used to do with our old boy was try and cover a mare early morning when he was competing, that left him satisfied and calm on the day...
CCj did suggest we phone her Dad and ask him to bring one of the in season mares in a trailer to cover it at the HT, but somehow I reckon the organisers may have protested a bit....
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