The only place to get a pup from is an accredited KC breeder...

We did it all wrong with our pups. Saw an advert for Kevin, went and viewed him, owner was pregnant, all she was interested in was the money. His parents were there to be seen. To be honest if he had of had three legs I would have taken him just to get him out of there. Perry came from better back ground but still not great. Most probably not the right thing to admit to on here. I don't have any regrets though, just pleased to offer a home to two darling little boys.
 
Sadly buying a non KC registered dog has been a minefield for me, she can't compete with a number of sled dog organisations due to lack of registration. The irony is that she's qualified for international competition via the national governing body, which runs events open all breeds and registration statuses, but can't compete in the Siberian husky breed club rally just up the road from us. The breed club rescue also only deals with KC registered dogs which irks me hugely.

I am 95% sure where my next dog is coming from and it's because I've seen their dogs on the trail and they are outstanding, simple as. Happily they also do all requisite testing and have reasonable results in the show ring. They aren't members of the ABS - being members would add nothing in that situation.
 
I think it does depend on the breed. THe bedlington breed is small, and the breed group actively works to eradicate CT which was prevalent in the breed years ago. They are succeeding in the registered breed, in the working strain there does appear to still be CT around, and the working breeders deny it. With a registered pedigree I can see if my potential puppy has been tested for CT, whether he is likely to be a carrier, or actually have it or be CT free. If I go outside the KC registered pups I cannot get access to that information so I am completely in the dark as to health history. If I were buying a new bedlington I would only by from a KC registered breeder, and would want a full KC pedigree, plus dna test results for CT and a liver biopsy result for CT,
 
blackcob said:
Sadly buying a non KC registered dog has been a minefield for me, she can't compete with a number of sled dog organisations due to lack of registration. The irony is that she's qualified for international competition via the national governing body, which runs events open all breeds and registration statuses, but can't compete in the Siberian husky breed club rally just up the road from us. The breed club rescue also only deals with KC registered dogs which irks me hugely.

I am 95% sure where my next dog is coming from and it's because I've seen their dogs on the trail and they are outstanding, simple as. Happily they also do all requisite testing and have reasonable results in the show ring. They aren't members of the ABS - being members would add nothing in that situation.
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Oooo PM me who lol I am nosey
 
We have two Italian Spinones, the first one we aquired, at 11 months, with no KC papers though I have since found out she came from one of the top show breeders in the country, to look at she is a great example of the breed, BUT she has a bit of a dodgy hip, an undershot jaw and very uneven front teeth. The second came from a family home who had a litter from their pet, both parents had all the appropriate health tests including CA . She is not such a good example, a bit to light and houndy, but, other than being a perpetual puppy and having a very dominant naughty gene! even at 5 years now, does not seem to have any heath problems. So I guess you have to be careful and even then you can have problems.
 
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blackcob said:
Sadly buying a non KC registered dog has been a minefield for me, she can't compete with a number of sled dog organisations due to lack of registration. The irony is that she's qualified for international competition via the national governing body, which runs events open all breeds and registration statuses, but can't compete in the Siberian husky breed club rally just up the road from us. …….. .
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The ISDS will recognise and accept for registration, those sheepdogs which 'display' by Trial winning results, their suitability to promote the breed. The betterment of all working breeds comes from those dogs which demonstrate their abilities, rather than the opinions of those who think that they 'may'!! :)

The Show Bench influence continues to be the overbearing force upon the Breed Societies, it seems!

Alec.
 
Sadly she will never set the sled dog world on fire, Alec, but she looks like a Siberian and runs like a Siberian. We will continue to support those organisations that run 'open' classes and the alternative breed rescue which accepts unregistered dogs. I will thumb my nose at the breed club when we're competing for team GB!

Cyrus I have PM'd you, nosy parker. :p
 
My next dogs will be from a KC breeder, purely because I can see the pedigree and the health tests. How else can you check lineage and health tests? I have two non KC registered springers with dodgy hips and a dodgy temperament and one KC registered, working lines, pedigree mostly red, never sick or sorry, running round the woods like a puppy today. So I know where I'm going for my next ones.
 
Sadly my next dog will never come from a KC accredited breeder, the scheme is fundamentally flawed and allows somewhat dubious breeders to gain kudos in the eyes of the general public....

But then I am a 'rescue dogs all the way' sort of person :p
 
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