The Peel neglect case - the sentence

I know from personal experience and that of others that the CC repeatedly refuse to get involved in what they regard as 'personal disputes', it is up to the Trustees to behave as they say fit.

However, I know of another similar case to that of the horse with the broken leg. Someone I know called the vet to her foal who was lame. It was Sunday call out so not her nomal vet. The foal was treated and appeared to be improving. Two days later the owner had to go away for a few days on business but left the mare and foal in the care of a relative. Within hours of leaving home, her mobile rang, the RSPCA asking if she knew her foal was lame. She explained she did and the foal had been seen by a vet and was receiving treatment. Later that evening the relative rang to say the mare and foal were missing and the filed gate had been left open, with other horses in it.

The RSPCA had removed the mare and foal and had the foal pts the next day saying the foal had a fracture. The RSPCA claimed they had no trouble loading the mare and foal. Neighbours told the owner the pair had been chased around the field for nearly an hour. Police camera footage showed this to be true - so the inspector had lied. The foal was transported without sedation. So what was the cause of the fracture? It was a valuable foal.

Another person here who thinks the RSPCA should be investigated.
 
I'm disgusted at the actions of the RSPCA - especially as the horses killed and signed over may not have even been the Peels to sign over.

If anyone has had a horse put down by the RSPCA or rehomed that was on loan to the Peels, please contact a lawyer. It's completely inexcusable, especially as there were people offering homes for these horses. I'm sure those who had lost a horse would have taken another on.

The changing of names of the horses rescued also annoys me - especially if the horse is registered and has shown under another name.

I've been quiet on the whole case so far, but tbh I feel angry. These are healthy, valuable horses who with a bit of feeding, tlc and care could be back to winning in show rings and really have made a great 'success' story. Not like the common coloured, badly put together hairy thing with minimal handling - looks like someone decided that 'Arabian' means too highly strung and made a decision off a stereotype. If the condition they were reportedly in is only as bad as needing hooves sorted, wormer, treatment for rainscald, feeding and tlc they could have easily found experienced foster homes? especially as if these are ex-show horses they would have a lot of handling and should have basic manners.

or have I got the complete wrong end of the stick?
 
Rollin, I am not a fan of the RSPCA but I am stunned by your story. They effectively stole a horse that they knew was under vet supervision and destroyed it. If they did that to a certain sector of society, they certainly wouldn't get away with it. I am keen to work out some way that they can be investigated over their abuse of power, and am formulating a plan. Would there be much support from my fellow H+H members?
 
zaminda said:
Rollin, I am not a fan of the RSPCA but I am stunned by your story. They effectively stole a horse that they knew was under vet supervision and destroyed it. If they did that to a certain sector of society, they certainly wouldn't get away with it. I am keen to work out some way that they can be investigated over their abuse of power, and am formulating a plan. Would there be much support from my fellow H+H members?
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have you considered a petition? change.org is very good, and of course writing to MPs/etc as well.

Until there is a full list of horses who have been rehomed/signed over and pts and which ones belong to the Peels it might be hard to start a petition that's successful as you really need solid facts.
 
zaminda said:
Rollin, I am not a fan of the RSPCA but I am stunned by your story. They effectively stole a horse that they knew was under vet supervision and destroyed it. If they did that to a certain sector of society, they certainly wouldn't get away with it. I am keen to work out some way that they can be investigated over their abuse of power, and am formulating a plan. Would there be much support from my fellow H+H members?
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I wanted to publicise this some time ago but there IS an investigation, which is why I have had to be a bit obscure. I will get in touch with the person concerned again and make them aware of this thread. What made this more shocking is that they had the mobile phone number of the owner but informed the relative the foal was going to be pts.
 
Reading between the lines a bit, with the knoweldge that a lot of the inrformation on offer seems a bit dubious - are a lot of these arabs who have been loaned because they were lame/hard to handle/ difficult to breed? In which case was there actually a better place for them to go?
Not defending rspca and think there's other horses should be first in line but just wondering if there is more to it than meets the eye?
 
No I think in this case they were loaned because the peel's appeared to run a successful breeding and competing operation (and were pretty convincing!) and people wanted/where happy for their horses to be part of that.
 
They duped a lot of people

Tannis said:
We totally support the use of Arabs in sport horse breeding - and we event our pure bred Arabians.

Many years ago, I remember reading that a performance breeder used to add a dash of native pony blood to add the speed and agility. We've adopted the same approach but replaced the native pony with Arabian breeding.

Our pure bred mare, Taragun was made World Arabian Horse Organisation Horse of the Year for her eventing, partnered by our (then) 12 year old daughter. We were presented with the award by Tamarillo's owner (who also happens to be a senior committee member of the Arab Horse Society).

We also have a wonderful French bred Anglo, a 16.3, who has taken our daughter to JRN and who previously competed to 3* level and represented France and Italy.

This year, we started competing our pure bred stallion, Templars Orchestral Pearl - he's 15.3.

The Arabian horse is a wonderful breed. The bond with them has to be earned, but once formed, it is a life long partnership that will never fade and they will literally give their lives for you. It's one of the closest relationships people can ever experience.

I know I'm biased and I'm prepared to be convinced otherwise but after 20 years of people trying to dissuade me, I still believe that Arabian bloodlines are the holy grail in having the ability to add courage, talent, temperament, style and immeasurable amounts of love!
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htobago said:
Magic104 - you learned something good today! Tannis and her family and their super-talented horses have the admiration and affection of everyone in the Arab-horse world, myself very much included.
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The guy who put them down, according to that daily mail article, his name rings a bell.

Is he the same man who shot that horse at the g-g center?
 
Bigbenji said:
The guy who put them down, according to that daily mail article, his name rings a bell.

Is he the same man who shot that horse at the g-g center?
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Yes the same knackerman, he seems to have several incomes streams, he "runs" the yard they went to after the rescue, transports, kills and is a part time horse whisperer for what it's worth, a conflict of interests possibly, he does say he could have rehomed some rather than shooting them so maybe he tried to do something but risked his lucrative deal with the rspca if he did not follow orders.
 
be positive said:
Yes the same knackerman, he seems to have several incomes streams, he "runs" the yard they went to after the rescue, transports, kills and is a part time horse whisperer for what it's worth, a conflict of interests possibly, he does say he could have rehomed some rather than shooting them so maybe he tried to do something but risked his lucrative deal with the rspca if he did not follow orders.
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He was recommended to me several years ago as an animal behaviourist I spoke to him and decided his techniques were not for me!!! He was the man that shot the horse whose owner owed money for livery.
 
I am horrified by this, I really am.

Especially if, as seems fairly likely, "Taz" is Taragun. Now no-one could argue that she wasn't used to traveling, so what on earth happened that meant she broke her leg in transit?!!
 
HashRouge said:
I am horrified by this, I really am.

Especially if, as seems fairly likely, "Taz" is Taragun. Now no-one could argue that she wasn't used to traveling, so what on earth happened that meant she broke her leg in transit?!!
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I feel so desperately sorry for the people who loaned their horses and have lost them. Heartbreaking. And the horses - a champion stallion with valuable bloodlines and quality competition horses and ponies
the only way I would loan a horse is "to stay on yard."
 
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