The repeal

[Fiagai]

...those darn pesky Quote things still somehow seem to have a mind of their own!
Half Quotes, Own Quotes and Quotes that just dont make any sense....how difficult can it be

(hint - use the edit button to fix if you dont quite get it right!)

 

[Fiagai]

It is my understanding that most Chief Constables consider their resources much better deployed, than worrying about what a few decent, law abiding folk, in many instances pillars of the community, who make a contribution to public office and society and what they are doing when taking the air in the countryside.

This is a lovely little piece from the LACS website...

The League can report that during the 2009/2010 hunting season nine cases of suspected illegal hunting activity have been passed to police forces in England and Wales. In addition a further three cases are currently being prepared for presentation to the relevant police forces.

A whole 9 + 3 cases - the majority of which do not related to actual Fox Hunting (see below*)

Organised Hunting
The figures from the Ministry of Justice are extremely encouraging and unequivocally demonstrate the effectiveness of the Hunting Act. It is also apparent that the figures serve to highlight the emergence of two distinct categories of hunting with dogs in England and Wales. The first category consists of those individuals who continue with the practice of hare coursing, an activity prohibited by the Hunting Act, and the so called ‘lads with dogs’
who generally operate alone but still seek to hunt wild mammals with dogs in
contravention of the law. *It has become clear that a higher proportion of this first category make up the majority of the total convictions secured under the Hunting Act since 2005.

The second distinct category consists of those individuals afffiliated with organised hunting activity such as the member hunts of the Masters of Foxhounds Association (MFHA). It is the League’s firm belief that this organised hunting activity deserves a similar degree of scrutiny by the police.
It is to this second category of organised hunting with dogs that the majority of the League’s intelligence on hunting relates. The League is now able to report that it is in a position to share that intelligence with the police...

So from their own argument that even though a higher proportion "lads with dogs" make up the majority of the total convictions secured under the Hunting Act they insist that mounted Fox Hunting "deserves a similar degree of scrutiny". The question has to be asked Why? And why are they concentrating on gathering inteligence from this group when they are not a significant problem?

What is obvious is that LACS are therefore wasting police time by having an agenda based on their own bias

Unfortunately this behaviour is replicated by other Anti-Hunt individuals and groups.

Surely there is case here for wasting police time.

 

[Judgemental]

Whilst I have been busy with 'affairs of state' this thread has generated a fair amount of excitement.

I don't think I can add any additional comments to my original post, save to say I saw that a poster had suggested I was tongue in cheek concerning the French.

I believe in everything I said in that post.

What is most interesting is Binkle & Flip.

Clearly not exactly with us are they? But even more entertaining is that I know exactly who you are.

One has to be very careful with information on this forum even very slight information like, “Uncle was the undertaker in Exford”!

Don’t let me ‘stop’ you, ma ders. LOL

 

[Binkle&Flip]

Whilst I have been busy with 'affairs of state' this thread has generated a fair amount of excitement.

I don't think I can add any additional comments to my original post, save to say I saw that a poster had suggested I was tongue in cheek concerning the French.

I believe in everything I said in that post.

What is most interesting is Binkle & Flip.

Clearly not exactly with us are they? But even more entertaining is that I know exactly who you are.

One has to be very careful with information on this forum even very slight information like, “Uncle was the undertaker in Exford”!

Don’t let me ‘stop’ you, ma ders. LOL

I am glad to hear that you believe you know who I am Judgemental. If only you hadnt skipped through the posts on this thread so quickly you would have realised the conversation had well moved on from Exford. I was talking about my own home village/town by the time I mentioned the undertakers you silly thing

 

[Binkle&Flip]

This is a lovely little piece from the LACS website...



A whole 9 + 3 cases - the majority of which do not related to actual Fox Hunting (see below*)



So from their own argument that even though a higher proportion "lads with dogs" make up the majority of the total convictions secured under the Hunting Act they insist that mounted Fox Hunting "deserves a similar degree of scrutiny". The question has to be asked Why? And why are they concentrating on gathering inteligence from this group when they are not a significant problem?

What is obvious is that LACS are therefore wasting police time by having an agenda based on their own bias

Unfortunately this behaviour is replicated by other Anti-Hunt individuals and groups.

Surely there is case here for wasting police time.

9+3 cases My lord, the monitors are really snowing the police under mountains of work as claimed by those who want repeal with ALL those false reports. One case per month However can the authorities cope

 

[Fiagai]

For those having less than a full amount of comprehension on what is going on....

Quote:
The League can report that during the 2009/2010 hunting season nine cases of suspected illegal hunting activity have been passed to police forces in England and Wales. In addition a further three cases are currently being prepared for presentation to the relevant police forces.

Originally Posted by Fiagai... Unfortunately this behaviour is replicated by other Anti-Hunt individuals and groups.

I must start Using a larger font size lol!

The LACS statement of their activity above does not include all the other anti-hunt and hunt sabuteur organisations "helping" the police with false information....

 

[Binkle&Flip]

For those having less than a full amount of comprehension on what is going on....



I must start Using a larger font size lol!

The LACS statement of their activity above does not include all the other anti-hunt and hunt sabuteur organisations "helping" the police with false information....

No need for larger font Faigai. What sort of figures do you have regarding the other 'false', information/accusations for us to digest? Hundreds of reports? Thousands of reports? I take it you do have some figures to back up your statement?

 

[combat_claire]

French stick combined with being a bit of a computer novice And I do rather like the smilie faces but keep getting told off for using them.

A whole French stick under there, the mind boggles, no wonder the key wasn't working! I thought my keyboard was pretty filthy! The last time I gave it a good shake there was enough crumbs to constitute another roll! Eurgh

Indeed the scaremongering from the CA regarding loss of jobs, cost to rural economies if the ban came in etc have turned out to not be true.

The predictions for economic upheaval in rural areas was made at a time before anyone knew the final form that the Hunting Act was going to take. If it had been banned outright with no forms of hound activity permitted to continue I would guess that the economic outlook for these rural villages without the additional economic support from shooting and hunting would have been a lot bleaker. The fact that exemptions were brought in at various stages during the readings of the bill in parliament meant the future was a lot brighter, although there are some traditionalists who ceased their regular visits to the West Country as they felt that hunting with two hounds could never be the same as the days when the whole pack would be laid on. I can't comment, I have only ever been stag hunting post-ban.

Exford is a truly beautiful village, if you ever get a chance do visit. If you like real ale or real ciders as opposed to the gassy rubbish most bars have on tap then a visit to The Crown is highly recommended. It struck me that there was a real community spirit that was engendered by the shared love of hunting and deer amongst the village residents. My limited experience of the social life that is organised around hunts is some of the most inclusive and wide ranging I have ever come across. I tell ye, you haven't lived till you have danced the night away at a hunt ball....

 

[Judgemental]

I feel it is fair to say that the passion that exists to have The Repeal, is overwhelming and this forum is indicative of that passion.

 

[Paddydou]

I feel it is fair to say that the passion that exists to have The Repeal, is overwhelming and this forum is indicative of that passion.

I think it is also fair to say that it acceptable to appaud the French for making a fuss so that their country is run in the way they want. Good one them for stomping their feet and making their country better for all living there! Ok so sometimes they goa little too far in their excitement but I have grown to respect their tenacity and determination. Wish the British would grow such balls - perhaps we wouldn't be facing many of todays problems if we had!

 

[Simsar]

I think it is also fair to say that it acceptable to appaud the French for making a fuss so that their country is run in the way they want hear bl88dy hear. Good one them for stomping their feet and making their country better for all living there! Ok so sometimes they goa little too far in their excitement but I have grown to respect their tenacity and determination. Wish the British would grow such balls - perhaps we wouldn't be facing many of todays problems if we had! Well said

I think I should be PM what do you lot think?

 

[Paddydou]

I think I should be PM what do you lot think?

But Darlings it would be like dealing with Jekell and Hyde considering as there are two of you!

...Also you would have a tendancy to make more gaffs than Prince Phillip.

What the heck - you have my vote!

As long as we get EK in as deputy and Alec sorting out the budget so he has something to winge about...!

 

[combat_claire]

I think I should be PM what do you lot think?

Definitely see you as prime minister, I have already bagged President of the World!

 

[Fiagai]

I feel it is fair to say that the passion that exists to have The Repeal, is overwhelming and this forum is indicative of that passion.

Well said PD....Me I is very passionate! Roll on repeal....:whohoo:


Btw - its great to see the Quote Machinery is actualy working again I was getting lost back there

 

[JanetGeorge]

The conviction rate for MPs is certainly massively higher than for those who go hunting!

And Elliot Morley hasn't come to trial yet!! I keep watching and waiting for the court date to be announced so I can organise a trip to London. I DO so want to see that smug, sanctimonious moron in the dock!!

 

[Judgemental]

And Elliot Morley hasn't come to trial yet!! I keep watching and waiting for the court date to be announced so I can organise a trip to London. I DO so want to see that smug, sanctimonious moron in the dock!!

Without wishing to anticpate the bottom line, perhaps we should arrange a rota of Prison Visitors.

As I have said in previous posts, those people who ban hunting all come to a sticky end.

Débridé passionné pour la chasse.

 

[Giles]

And Elliot Morley hasn't come to trial yet!! I keep watching and waiting for the court date to be announced so I can organise a trip to London. I DO so want to see that smug, sanctimonious moron in the dock!!

I remember Elliot coming to South Molton and saying to a bunch of stag hunters that he would support it if they ate their prey lol

 

[JanetGeorge]

The fact so few obvious anti's attend the Hunt Meets on those occasions is not hard to understand. However I know many, many friends and family's who attend those meets for the gathering/trip out and not because they support what the hunts pre ban used to do. When younger we used to go for a few drinks and a laugh. Now to meet up with those we dont see through the year. I dont disagree that many go to support the hunt but many do not and go for the hounds and the spectacle.

So - knowing that hunts were going out to kill foxes - you still went to the Meet for a few drinks and a laugh?? Obviously you lacked the courage of your convictions!

I have a VERY anti-hunting neighbour who 'likes the spectacle'. However, she poisons her moles with strychnine because they make a mess of her lawn - so her views on animal welfare are pretty warped!

 

[JanetGeorge]

As I have said in previous posts, those people who ban hunting all come to a sticky end.

The moral high ground is a slippery slope indeed! I remember that ghastly Wiltshire councillor, David Glaholm, who led the fight to ban hunting on Wiltshire CC tenant farms - and then was arrested for hunting 'tail' in Swindon!

 

[EAST KENT]

Never mind Deputy PM..I want a) capital punishment back....and b) to be Chief executioner ,like Pierrepoint! Also ,although being far too near France for comfort,I do love a real good noisy demo..so good on them,and can we join in please.
We really do roll over and give in too easily. Way back I had someone looking at my hound puppies ,who went on to say that her son would be "picking up the dog " on his return from holiday(we boarded dogs) AND that he was a Sab who annoyed the Surrey Union (my old hunt) on his winter weekends.Could I be sure he did`nt see the hounds as "it might upset him"
I replied that as he was a sab he could experience being hunted by my Malinois ,and on a good day he`d get a twenty yard start.
Yep..got my beadies on a few candidates already!