The Rescuer Gets Rescued

[AmyMay]

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Many of you will remember the story of the lady who decided to 'save' horses from Beeston market - fearing those that she was buying would otherwise have gone for meat.

http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/foru...1067_381251798666942_583054776_n.jpgt=beeston

Well some months ago she found herself being investigated by the RSPCA. The horses and ponies she had collected were in a terrible state, with their basic needs a far way from being met.

The result was that she very kindly 'donated' some of those animals to Hillside animal sanctuary......

The bay mare known as Gypsy ( top right hand side of the link above), was one of these animals. She had been in the care of this woman for several months, and was purchased from Beeston looking fit and well. Upon her donation to Hillside you can see how her condition had deteriorated significantly.

There is more to Gypsy's sad story, but she is just one of the many casualties that had to be rescued from the rescuer.....

 

[Penny Less]

sadly this is not an isolated case is it.
Often stories of people who collect animals out of kindness but cannot afford to feed them etc, then they end up being rescued again. I would love to rescue animals but know that I don't have the facilities and long term cash to do so. Therefore I support well established charities instead

 

[WelshD]

I think we all knew it was just a matter of time. Sad to be proved right after all of the protests from the other side that claimed all was well

Poor mare

 

[Nudibranch]

Well thank goodness she has been stopped. I hope she doesn't have any more still in her "care" though.

 

[AmyMay]

Well thank goodness she has been stopped. I hope she doesn't have any more still in her "care" though.

Oh, she hasn't been stopped. Far from it. She still has some ponies, with foals at foot.

Sadly Gypsy was also in foal when sent to Hillside. Her poor state meant that the chances of the foal surviving were slim. She foaled a few days after arriving at Hillside. The foal never stood, and was unable to feed. Despite their best efforts the foal died.

Sadly again the foal Gypsy had at foot when first purchased from Beeston was weened in a most cruel manner. Taken from his dam and locked in a stable, where he remained unhandled for several months. You can imagine the affect this had on him. The poor creature was driven totally mad.

 

[Equinus]

I was wondering how this was going. Is she still 'saving' horses from Beeston?

 

[spottybotty]

I have followed this "womans" antics. I am so cross that she still has equines in her care. I thought perhaps you would be telling us that the idiot had had them all removed.

 

[Ladyinred]

I have followed this "womans" antics. I am so cross that she still has equines in her care. I thought perhaps you would be telling us that the idiot had had them all removed.

Not only does she still have a couple of pony mares she also has a stallion. Although it must be said that one minute it's a stallion and the next a gelding, so guess this will remain unconfirmed for now.

 

[Meowy Catkin]

Forgive me if I'm wrong - but isn't Hillside itself on the verge of not coping? IIRC it has a 'no rehoming' policy and now has far more animals than their land can cope with. I'm sure a member on here drives past some of their fields and and was horrified to see the state that everything was in.

If I'm right, then Gypsy is still not in a true safe home.

I'm absolutely aghast that her foal was weaned and treated so cruelly. Just horrific. Does anyone know what's happened to him?

 

[Alec Swan]

It's difficult not to be angry in the face of such stupidity. Were the rspca not so spineless, many of those who refer to themselves as rescue centres, would either be closed down, or face the decisions of a Court.

A mare which was considered fit for slaughter, was taken away and abused, and she wont be the only one.

Alec.

 

[Pearlsasinger]

It's difficult not to be angry in the face of such stupidity. Were the rspca not so spineless, many of those who refer to themselves as rescue centres, would either be closed down, or face the decisions of a Court.


Alec.

And, to be fair, the council animal health departments in those areas could also do a lot more to put an end to this nonsense.

 

[*hic*]

"Donated to Hillside" - talk about out of the frying pan into the fire

 

[Ibblebibble]

It's difficult not to be angry in the face of such stupidity. Were the rspca not so spineless, many of those who refer to themselves as rescue centres, would either be closed down, or face the decisions of a Court.

A mare which was considered fit for slaughter, was taken away and abused, and she wont be the only one.

Alec.

the whole welfare system is flawed, and sadly it won't change because the neglect and abuse isn't happening in London under the mp's noses so it's easy for them to ignore. RSPCA are a waste of time and money and some trading standards are no better.

 

[AmyMay]

"Donated to Hillside" - talk about out of the frying pan into the fire

Yes, I certainly thought the phrase 'donated to' an interesting one.....

 

[Alec Swan]

....... RSPCA are a waste of time and money and some trading standards are no better.

I'd wonder, if TS were involved, if they'd actually be able to have an input, as I suspect that they are only involved with Welfare, when it's involving a business, farming for instance. Does anyone know?

Is there any sort of licensing needed to open up as a Rescue Centre? Can anyone just declare themselves? As a charity, one would need to apply to the Charity's Commission, but presumably no matter how inexperienced, or inept, establishing one's self as a rescue Centre, is only a matter of making a statement. Again, does anyone know?

Alec.

 

[Dab]

It seems rather easy to blame the RSPCA, TS, MP's...whatever 'authority', but surely that is the end point in these whole sorry affairs. And whilst tougher legislation is needed in terms of 'Rescue Centres', let’s not shy away from reviewing the real issues.

No no no, surely these sad and sorry situations arise out of the untenable situation that the supply of horses far out strips demand, and that horse owners are more than prepared to cast off old, infirm, injured, not good enough horses into an already over saturated market and then act all shocked when they see these same horses either end up with the meatman and/or in these terrible situations.


And then you also get the whole host of people who ‘enable’ these ‘so called horses rescuers/hoarders’…come on, wake up and smell the coffee …these people are just as culpable as the crazy ‘rescuers/hoarders' and we can blame the RSCPA etc for not stepping up but surely this just deflects the attention away from the real issues at hand, i.e. that we are all culpable to some extent and need to start addressing the current equine crisis rather than playing the blame game!

 

[s4sugar]

No licensing needed for rescues.

 

[rowan666]

a genuine charity that had the horses best intrest at heart would rehome not hoard. What a mess.

 

[MiJodsR2BlinkinTite]

It's difficult not to be angry in the face of such stupidity. Were the rspca not so spineless, many of those who refer to themselves as rescue centres, would either be closed down, or face the decisions of a Court.

A mare which was considered fit for slaughter, was taken away and abused, and she wont be the only one.

Alec.

Couldn't say it better Alec.

 

[cambrica]

It's difficult not to be angry in the face of such stupidity. Were the rspca not so spineless, many of those who refer to themselves as rescue centres, would either be closed down, or face the decisions of a Court.

A mare which was considered fit for slaughter, was taken away and abused, and she wont be the only one.

Alec.

Absolutely agree! That poor mare (Gypsy) who's pain and suffering could have been ended humanely months ago
Also confused as to why a pig should be rescued from the abbatior ? And why is there a herd of cattle ? Have they too been rescued ? and from what ?

 

[Amy&]

They won't be any better off at hillside, I could tell you some horror stories about them. Poor ponies

 

[Cortez]

The whole story starts to go wrong when these horses are "rescued" from slaughter. Surely the reason why they are going for slaughter in the first place is because there is no other reasonable place for them? There are too many horses; this is an incontrovertible fact. Slaughter is not the worst thing that can happen to them, indeed it is the only rational place for unwanted horses to end up.

 

[Jesstickle]

The whole story starts to go wrong when these horses are "rescued" from slaughter. Surely the reason why they are going for slaughter in the first place is because there is no other reasonable place for them? There are too many horses; this is an incontrovertible fact. Slaughter is not the worst thing that can happen to them, indeed it is the only rational place for unwanted horses to end up.

Perfect post. Should be printed out and put up on the sale ring gate

 

[SatansLittleHelper]

The whole story starts to go wrong when these horses are "rescued" from slaughter. Surely the reason why they are going for slaughter in the first place is because there is no other reasonable place for them? There are too many horses; this is an incontrovertible fact. Slaughter is not the worst thing that can happen to them, indeed it is the only rational place for unwanted horses to end up.

This 100%.
The "fluffies" need to start getting real. People are so anti slaughter/PTS but when it comes down to it, its the only sensible thing to do.

 

[Fii]

Forgive me if I'm wrong - but isn't Hillside itself on the verge of not coping? IIRC it has a 'no rehoming' policy and now has far more animals than their land can cope with. I'm sure a member on here drives past some of their fields and and was horrified to see the state that everything was in.

If I'm right, then Gypsy is still not in a true safe home.

I'm absolutely aghast that her foal was weaned and treated so cruelly. Just horrific. Does anyone know what's happened to him?

I asked on the Hillside site whether they rehomed any horses the answer i got: "We do rehome rescued dogs into adoptive family homes and sometimes loan donkeys or ponies in pairs to people with equine experience. We rarely have horses suitably schooled for riding available."

 

[Fii]

The whole story starts to go wrong when these horses are "rescued" from slaughter. Surely the reason why they are going for slaughter in the first place is because there is no other reasonable place for them? There are too many horses; this is an incontrovertible fact. Slaughter is not the worst thing that can happen to them, indeed it is the only rational place for unwanted horses to end up.

While i agree with most of what you are saying, these ponies are being sold at market, so while some may have no hope, a lot still have a job to do and others will be babies and youngsters, not every body will be there to "rescue" (how i now hate that word) but will be there for a good deal on a horse they want!

 

[Meowy Catkin]

I asked on the Hillside site whether they rehomed any horses the answer i got: "We do rehome rescued dogs into adoptive family homes and sometimes loan donkeys or ponies in pairs to people with equine experience. We rarely have horses suitably schooled for riding available."

That's better than I feared. Thanks for finding that out.