Courbette
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I was looking for something horsey to watch last night and ended up renting this documentary. Has anybody else watched this?
The Story of Totilas documentary
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shortstuff99
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I'm not sure I would be able to bear it. Is it a tell all or from the perspective of EG as that would change it massively for me. I know he is reasonably popular on here but I really can't stand his training ?
Courbette
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It had interviews with his lots of his connections including his breeder, Sjef Janssen, Paul Schockemöhle and Matthias Rath. There were clips of Edward Gal but I don't think there was any interviews included that he did directly for the documentary. As insight into the politics of elite dressage and how these horses are viewed as by those that want to make money from them it was eye opening to say the least!
shortstuff99
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I might try and check it out then, although I'm sure I will find it depressing ?
SatansLittleHelper
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Where did you rent it from..?? I'd be really interested to see 
shortstuff99
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I found it on YouTube not sure if it is found elsewhere too.Where did you rent it from..?? I'd be really interested to see
SatansLittleHelper
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Thank you x
TPO
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You can rent it from amazon prime too
AmyMay
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Very interesting watch. Thanks for mentioning it.
Courbette
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I rented it from Amazon, I didn’t realise until I started it that it was in Dutch (I think) so I had to turn subtitles on.
BBP
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Coincidentally, I was looking at Totilas photos and videos last night, as part of my new obsession with all things dropped fetlock related. Which led me to pictures of Glocks Zonik. Oh my. The front fetlocks on that are interesting.
tristar
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totilas, one beautiful horse, what a spirit, too good for this world
prime example of of a horse better than anyone whoever rode him
prime example of of a horse better than anyone whoever rode him
shortstuff99
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Most of the modern warmbloods have hypermobility problems, there was a good video of this I saw the other week I will see if I can find it.
shortstuff99
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Found it!
shortstuff99
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Have you seen the videos of him as a young horse? He looks very very different, which shows you how manufactured he was which I believe led to his downfall. Poor horse.
tristar
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oh yes, but i always looked at the horse and disregarded the training, its their way of doing things, but the horse shone through for me, always liked his dad, very bold looking horse, he bred some lovely stuff, for a warmblood!
tristar
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the horses of thirty years ago moved very nicely anyway, its not just movement as a three year old, the training is the bigger part that makes or breaks, the criteria and adherence to standards seems very foggy to me
margit otto crepin and corlandus gave me goose bumps to watch, and he was a carty to look at, his movement was very big, but he did not look as if he lacked freedom, perhaps that was the rider, etc training, and perhaps the judges were different.
but its as the song goes, money, money, money lovely money.
margit otto crepin and corlandus gave me goose bumps to watch, and he was a carty to look at, his movement was very big, but he did not look as if he lacked freedom, perhaps that was the rider, etc training, and perhaps the judges were different.
but its as the song goes, money, money, money lovely money.
BBP
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Thanks yes I found these in my research this week. Really interesting.
(Off topic to this thread but thanks to you pointing out the PRE group hypermobility threads to me I have had contact with some lovely people from around the world, coming back full circle to Dr Dyson here in the UK)
shortstuff99
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Glad it has helped
ihatework
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That’s just how I felt about the horse.
He was manufactured into something he shouldn’t have been, but underneath it there was just something about him that drew me in and I can’t even put my finger on what it is.
Quite a sad story really. EG is such a talented rider, he sits so beautifully and yet he chooses to train the way he does. Totilas ended up so institutionalised to that way he fell apart under a different system.
ycbm
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That's AMAZING! What a mess state sponsored breeding to win medals has made of warmblood horses
Its also clarified for me why I'm taking my 5 year old so slowly. I have always felt he verges on hypermobile.
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AmyMay
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[quoute]Totilas ended up so institutionalised to that way he fell apart under a different system.[/quote]
Rollkur.....
Rollkur.....
tristar
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i don`t know if you can ever institutionalize, with success, such a great spirit, only try to rise to its level
rollkur or the germanic school seemed alien to such a horse, domination looks the opposite of what was required
rollkur or the germanic school seemed alien to such a horse, domination looks the opposite of what was required
shortstuff99
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I have to say I always felt sorry for MR he was actually a very good rider and was maligned by everyone because he was not EG, and he had tried to ride the horse correctly ?