The truth about the Horse Hoarder

Glesni. Feel free to put me on UI I stated that I received odd PMs from you. In my opinion they were odd. You sent me them unsolicited and they were unwanted. Hence my reply to you.
 
BillieBlitzen said:
CompetitionDiva - my point exactly. If the photos that are being claimed to have been taken at Clywds yard (dead carcasses) were part of a previous investigation as suggested by the original poster then he would have received a lifetime ban for keeping animals. As he received no such ban and has never been subject to a ban then how can the pictures be part of a legitimate previous case against him?
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he has been convicted following another successful prosecution by the RSPCA. Sentencing has been deferred until 12/04/13 to give time for arrangements for the remaining horses to be made.

The RSPCA had been working with Mr Davies for some time and had rehomed some of his stock in order to help him cope. Prosecution was a last resort after everything else had failed.

Those who think sending money, rugs and wormers to this man would be sentencing more horses to neglect and suffering.

Hopefully,he will get a life time ban on keeping horses, this is the only way to ensure an end to the horses suffering. Something that can only be achieved by prosecution.

Perhaps, the court will ensure that Mr Davies also will get help for his mental health issues, if he wishes this.
 
Goodness Glesni. If having a differing opinion makes me a cyber bully then so be it - very odd. Yes I do have one horse but I am surrounded by women who have a lifetime of experience over my mere 8 years so you couldn't be further from the truth with your accusation. Not entirely sure what that has to do with my opinion on this case?
 
BillieBlitzen said:
Glesni. Feel free to put me on UI I stated that I received odd PMs from you. In my opinion they were odd. You sent me them unsolicited and they were unwanted. Hence my reply to you.
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Not this thread, true BB has recently taken an unnecessarily high tone, though, I feel. *suss* ??? Uncalled for. This forum uses a generic platform and UI is found on many other forums using a similar one.


Apologies for the omission of the word recently - I never suggested you had targetted glesni. Is this to be your usual heavy-handed approach, the suggestion we all head for the UI button? You have been coming across as snippy and defensive - and if I was in the least bit twitchy, I'd say your reaction was *sus*pect/picious! :rolleyes:
 
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Brighteyes. I think you have me wrong. I would never have suggested that Glesni put me on UI had she not threatened it twice a few pages ago. When Glesni mentioned doing it for the 3rd time (I think, I would have to check) I then posted and said that she is more than welcome to put me on UI. So - a response to a suggestion. Not a suggestion made by me. I am defensive and snippy as it gets my goat when people assume things so strongly. Nobody has proof that the pictures we are debating were taken on Clywds land. I am not defending him just getting snippy at the ridiculous 'guilty as charged because someone on the internet said so' approach.
 
glesni said:
BILLYBLITZEN. the only reason i asked what "AREA" you were in , not your location was because i wondered if you personally knew these people.I was simply trying to be friendly and I am in no way odd. There is no need to take a nasty tone. You recieved one PM from me to which your reply was belittleing and nasty and petty regarding my grammar. Take a look at your own grammar!!! UI will defo be needed.
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I have often asked this in a PM - I have never been accused of being sinister or having an agenda. They either tell me or they say they'd prefer not to.

*wonders about some folks*
 
Well I couldn't sit on my hands any longer and I've finally commented on that fb page.
Cannot actually believe how blinkered people are.
It's making me so so cross that this man is being given the means to continue keeping horses on land he's squatting on and after cruelty convictions.
The worlds gone mad.
 
Brighteyes I feel very strongly that you are being unfair. I had an unsolicited PM from Glensi asking for my location, I said I didn't want to give that information out to someone I don't know but i am sure they could find the info if they needed to. I was then accused of playing games which I thought was odd. I had simply stated that I didn't want to reveal my location and felt no reason to. Why would you assume that you know what was said in Glensi's PMs to me or that I shouldn't have taken offense to them?
 
brighteyes said:
I have often asked this in a PM - I have never been accused of being sinister or having an agenda. They either tell me or they say they'd prefer not to.

*wonders about some folks*
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I didn't accuse Glensi of being sinister or having an agenda. Why would you put words into my mouth? I said the PMs were odd and unsolicited. I said nothing more than that. The PMs were odd and unsolicited. PMs often are unsolicited of course but nonetheless.
 
Brighteyes would you mind addressing the accusation of my being unreasonable for jumping to suggest the Glensi put my on UI? It wasn't my suggestion it was hers - pages back. I am feeling rather got at here. Feel free to get at me but let's make it factual?
 
Ok Floxie. Yes I get that. I said I wasn't happy to reveal my location to a stranger and the next message said 'oh I see, it's a little game is it'. I thought that was odd. I'm done defending myself now - this is getting too weird with people assuming they know what was said in PMs to ME
 
Im tempted to join fb just to comment on this.
Its crazy that this person is not only being allowed to keep ANY animal at all after seeing those photos on horse gossip, and the programe. But he is being helped to do so by donations!!
Its people who dont know horses and think they "are rescuing the cute little ponies"
 
BillieBlitzen said:
Glesni. Feel free to put me on UI I stated that I received odd PMs from you. In my opinion they were odd. You sent me them unsolicited and they were unwanted. Hence my reply to you.
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oh dear- this must make me very odd then!

how does someone know when they send you a pm whether its wanted of not though? its a little unfair to be calling some one odd simply because they pm'd you first.

seems just a misunderstanding to me although you have a tad jumped to the conclusion Glesni had suspect intentions for some reason.

anyway,

moving on.
 
brighteyes said:
I take it to mean that prior to becoming the Angel Gabriel, Michelle was a failed racehorse-breeder who changed direction into breeding or dealing in gypsy cobs, and entirely easier animal to produce to a useful and saleable standard.

BillieBlitzen So what if it's a regular member on here- if this is the inside track, are we not allowed to hear it?
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My point though, is that it bears absolutely no relevance to the current issue, there are many that try and fail to produce winning sucessfull racehorses, this does not reflect on the current situation.

Im not doubting OP or the credibility/origins of the pictures but the fact that michelle once dabbled in producing racehorses and then changed to cobs... is of no consequence in this debate. Furthermore, I understand that OP is quite impassioned about this, but the tone of that particular remark was incredibly scathing
 
No no Lula. Once again people seem unable to grasp my point. The content was odd. You guys don't know what the content was because I CAN'T POST IT. Imo it was odd - that's ok. Its ok for me to not like the content of a pm (not the first pm) the second pm and to think it is odd. Jeez. *brick wall*
 
Patterdale said:
Well I couldn't sit on my hands any longer and I've finally commented on that fb page.
Cannot actually believe how blinkered people are.
It's making me so so cross that this man is being given the means to continue keeping horses on land he's squatting on and after cruelty convictions.
The worlds gone mad.
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So, have you joined the "Banned from posting on the Fb page" club yet? ;):D

I got banned yesterday. For asking questions.
 
Rascal, this may all be addressed when he is sentenced in April, if a ban is imposed then ALL his horses will have to go. I can only assume that the reason the RSPCA had not issued much about this is because his sentence hadn't yet been given?
 
glesni said:
P.M. as follows glesni.. Hello, may i ask what area you are from.
BB ERM nope.
Glesni oh its like a game is it, sorry to have bothered you
BB dont give out my location, not sure what it has to do
with you, your naieve views or your inabitity to write
in sentences.

That to me was a horrible way to treat someone who was merely asking what area, not location you were from. Nothing strange about it, I wondered if you were in the same area as the people in the programme. As for unsolicited PM . That is pathetic and accusing as if i was some sort of cyber pest trying to find out where you live. Strikes me you are an unfriendly horrible person who likes to belittle people, especially newcomers to this forum.
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To be fair, If I declined to give out my location to you and you responded with a childish/flounce reply such as 'oh its like a game is it, sorry to have bothered you'. You would have either a) had no response at all, (such an attitude being constituted as unworthy of my bothering to reply) or b) a similarly scathing response as above.

And no it is not a horrible way to treat someone, it is merely an appropriate response to your second PM


:rolleyes:
 
Queenbee said:
To be fair, If I declined to give out my location to you and you responded with a childish/flounce reply such as 'oh its like a game is it, sorry to have bothered you'. You would have either a) had no response at all, (such an attitude being constituted as unworthy of my bothering to reply) or b) a similarly scathing response as above.

And no it is not a horrible way to treat someone, it is merely an appropriate response to your second PM


:rolleyes:
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this completely! :rolleyes:
has Patterdale been banned yet? I've been trying to work out which post is hers. :D Now Michelle is asking for a wood burner and a cooker for Clwyd, you couldnt make it up!
 
glesni said:
P.M. as follows glesni.. Hello, may i ask what area you are from.
BB ERM nope.
Glesni oh its like a game is it, sorry to have bothered you
BB dont give out my location, not sure what it has to do
with you, your naieve views or your inability to write
in sentences.

That to me was a horrible way to treat someone who was merely asking what area, not location you were from. Nothing strange about it, I wondered if you were in the same area as the people in the programme. As for unsolicited PM!how does anyone know when to or when not to PM someone. That is pathetic and accusing as if i was some sort of cyber pest trying to find out where you live. Strikes me you are an unfriendly horrible person who likes to belittle people, especially newcomers to this forum.
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REALLY bad manners to share a PM. The clue is in the word "private" glensi.

Get over it. Please.
 
smokey said:
this completely! :rolleyes:
has Patterdale been banned yet? I've been trying to work out which post is hers. :D Now Michelle is asking for a wood burner and a cooker for Clwyd, you couldnt make it up!
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Patterdale is banned from the FB page, she said so in another thread. Isn't this fun!
 
glesni said:
FionaM12..what questions did you ask for them to feel they had to ban you from the page.
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I asked how they could be sure those photos (with the dead ponies) weren't his. I said that if they were he shouldn't be allowed to keep horses, but wondered if anyone could verify if they were or not. I can't remember exactly what else I said. Nothing nasty. :)
 
FionaM12 said:
So, have you joined the "Banned from posting on the Fb page" club yet? ;):D

I got banned yesterday. For asking questions.
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i have.
for posting 2 comments in a 6 hour period it seems.
they really dont like valid points/questions being asked do they.

Billie, fair enough. I prolly shouldnt have commented. If you took the content of any pm you receive from someone you dont know as a little odd thats your right totally. As i said tho, seems just to be a misunderstanding thats got a little out of hand.

hey ho :rolleyes:
 
Why is this man and his helper being thought of as horse lovers. It was clear that she has befriended him but is surely in it for the money. Michelle knows Mr Davies is a pensioner but takes £35 per week from him for each horse. At one point in the film he got quite angry addmitting there would be "****** all" left for him. Also why should he feel the need for a computer to "see what his horses are making" if he trusts her so much. Is his appeal now a legit registered charity? With so many blinkered supporters sending money and goods what will happen to the surplus?
 
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