The wow factor ---->>>>>>>>>>

Er, that's a TERRIBLE jump. I wouldn't put any kid I was even mildly fond of on something that jumped like that!
 
Now that is a decent advert that shows what the pony is like.

Lol Cortez I did think that too but he's not unseating the rider with his superman jumping technique.
 
At least he is trying his best to clear it and make 'good' out of a bad jump. Wouldn't put me off at all! It's quite a decent sized jump for a pony of that size and he is honest enough to give it a go.
 
wow does one jump "wrong" and is judged an un safe pony!!!

Many horses have an odd jump like that where they approach or take off wrong and do their best to jump anyway. I am sure if you photographed many horses through their life they have a jump which is not "correct".

My mare did many an awkward jump in her lifetime caught on photo at sponsored rides, but she did it to help me out as the take off was wrong or she slipped on take off etc.. I think to criticize this honest little pony on this photo is not viewing the big picture which shows the approach to the jump which led to this picture being taken.

I would trust this pony with my kid if I had one, he has an amazing jump in him/her and looks and does not un seat his rider. I would rather a pony like this that one who stops/ runs out/bucks/ his rider off.
 
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I would have walked over hot coals to have him when I was a child. Fab photos that make you think he's a lot of fun but safe - I think that pic suggests he's looked after his rider (albeit not a textbook jump)!
 
Love the jumping pic 'muuuuum! do I jump ON this, OVER it or what?'

Seen him out and about a few times, looks great fun
 
Why ponies are better than horses!
Slightly biased perhaps but from my experience a pony will have a go at it... Anything above 14hh will dump you on top of that jump! Looks like a wee star though!
 
I just don't get it. What height is the horse jumping? I have a Highland here who clears 84cms (our highest jump at the time -- I'm a breeder, not a showman so don't have the fancy jumps!) by a good 30cms yet I have only had three people come to see her. What is it you guys want for a 'wow' factor?

(Incidently, of those three, one was a novice, one too big so bought another pony, and the third had no money!). If you don't look, you sure as hell won't see.;)
 
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Dry Rot said:
I just don't get it. What height is the horse jumping? I have a Highland here who clears 84cms (our highest jump at the time -- I'm a breeder, not a showman so don't have the fancy jumps!) by a good 30cms yet I have only had three people come to see her. What is it you guys want for a 'wow' factor?
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Its not just about the jumping, the pony seems to be a cracking all rounder, LR and, buzzy enough and bold enough to go on with the PC teams, good enough to show and only 12hh! It has results, is a very desirable height and is proven!

I had a chestnut version of this as my first pony and he was awsome! did everything from county level showing, to PC eventing teams, to Dressage, to PC camp, he was a LR for many children and gave loads of more advanced small children hours and hours of fun.
 
I didnt start this thread to bash the poor pony. The photos made me laugh because we've all got that photo of our beloved horse that could star in a caption contest.

I was hoping others may join me in having a smile and maybe pop a funny caption on, not be rude about the pony or advert.

Lets all be happy today and remember the awesome ponies we all learnt to ride on (mine was an amazing strawberry roan welsh x mare at the riding school)
 
Well if I were looking for something for my children, I would defo look at this one... Looks great fun! Sadly my £ and time restrict me to my 'big' ones for now!

Dry rot ... You maybe don't easily get so many coming to see due to geography? I see your Scotland. I am too, and everything is so far away, from competitions to saddlers etc. I bet if you wee based in Kent you would be inundated with folks.
 
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But she's referring to that photo of that jump not the pony. Unless the pony jumps like that all the time which is unlikely. You're arguing for the sake of arguing.
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How do you work that one out?? So the blame is all on the pony then for the bad jump in your opinion??

The reply reads they would not have a kid on that pony if it jumps like that which can be once or all the time, they already stated the jump was horrid so it can be read with that thought in mind.

Even though no one knows here why the pony was caught in that unfortunate position in the photo, whether the pony got to close to the jump or if it is rider error the pony tried the best to complete the obstacle, and I for one would love a pony like that who would try their hardest to clear a jump to please the owner. Too many ponies would refuse a jump - run out or ditch their rider, if the rider approached a jump and expected the pony to jump from a bad take off.

The riders jumping position is terrible, she is almost sitting in the saddle her weight is behind the movement, and she is not allowing the pony with the reins, no wonder the poor pony struggled to round and stretch over the jump.
 
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I think he looks a cracking pony.
I also think that was a very poor choice of photo, but it most certainly wouldn't stop me hotfooting it over there (with trailer and cash) to see him.
 
HGA-12 said:
How do you work that one out?? So the blame is all on the pony then for the bad jump in your opinion??

The reply reads they would not have a kid on that pony if it jumps like that which can be once or all the time, they already stated the jump was horrid so it can be read with that thought in mind.

Even though no one knows here why the pony was caught in that unfortunate position in the photo, whether the pony got to close to the jump or if it is rider error the pony tried the best to complete the obstacle, and I for one would love a pony like that who would try their hardest to clear a jump to please the owner. Too many ponies would refuse a jump - run out or ditch their rider, if the rider approached a jump and expected the pony to jump from a bad take off.




The riders jumping position is terrible, she is almost sitting in the saddle her weight is behind the movement, and she is not allowing the pony with the reins, no wonder the poor pony struggled to round and stretch over the jump.
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The riders position is safe and secure, it may not be classical but sitting that jump in a classical forward style would probably have ended up with them both on the floor as her size would have further unbalanced an already committed pony, as a moment in time it is easy to be judgmental, none of us know what happened before the pony took off, the rider is giving perfectly well over coloured poles but in 2 shots xc the pony has jumped badly and the rider has probably been given little chance to do any more than do her best to stay with him.

Whatever the reason for the jump one things is clear the pony is game and got over it, not always better than refusing depending on the capability of the rider to stay on , as a one off it would not bother me but if it happened too often it would worry me and I would not want to be letting it jump big fixed obstacles as it would potentially take a rotational fall from jumping that way, it has got one front leg forward to land on but if his reactions were slow the other may not have got there in time and a bad fall would be inevitable.
 
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Some of these would probably do it dryrot.

http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/feat...ockeys-big-fences-out-hunting-pictures-479887
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OK, got it now! It seems I was probaby looking at the wrong advert!:O I don't pretend to be knowledgeable about horses, just enjoy learning new stuff. I had a 'qualified person' out today to look at said pony and give advice on selling. Apparently I am on the right lines, nothing wrong with pony or price, just need to get her seen. So it is off to the shows we go! (NOT my favourite past time, btw! :() I'm assured she will sell -- eventually.
 
be positive said:
The riders position is safe and secure, it may not be classical but sitting that jump in a classical forward style would probably have ended up with them both on the floor as her size would have further unbalanced an already committed pony, as a moment in time it is easy to be judgmental, none of us know what happened before the pony took off, the rider is giving perfectly well over coloured poles but in 2 shots xc the pony has jumped badly and the rider has probably been given little chance to do any more than do her best to stay with him.

Whatever the reason for the jump one things is clear the pony is game and got over it, not always better than refusing depending on the capability of the rider to stay on , as a one off it would not bother me but if it happened too often it would worry me and I would not want to be letting it jump big fixed obstacles as it would potentially take a rotational fall from jumping that way, it has got one front leg forward to land on but if his reactions were slow the other may not have got there in time and a bad fall would be inevitable.
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May be safe and secure but remember I am a BHS instructor so will see into the riders position and effectiveness, after all I have been teaching since 1980 :) it is in the blood.
 
HGA-12 said:
May be safe and secure but remember I am a BHS instructor so will see into the riders position and effectiveness, after all I have been teaching since 1980 :) it is in the blood.
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I didn't realise you were a BHSI you rarely mention your competition or teaching experience, I still think, with my lesser qualification, that being slightly behind rather than in front of the movement is safer and most event riders/ trainers would agree.
 
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I didn't realise you were a BHSI you rarely mention your competition or teaching experience, I still think, with my lesser qualification, that being slightly behind rather than in front of the movement is safer and most event riders/ trainers would agree.
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With no relevant qualifications at all I agree :p.
 
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