There are GOOD gypsies too

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having just read a post about a gypsy mare&foal in need of rescuing, I really feel the need to stand up for gypsies in general.

I have known and lived with gypsies. These people were poles apart from the stereotypical, biased view a lot of people have of gypsies. The people I knew were true gypsies, not tinkers. Their children were educated and polite, their homes were immaculate, they were proud of their horses which were well cared for.

I have also met others who were the opposite and who deserved a bad name, but unfortunately - just like a lot of other minorities - these are the ones people NOTICE and this leads to ALL travellers being tarred with the same brush.
 
There are gypsies and there are tinkers. Unfortunately there are more of the latter than the former.
 
I am sure there are, and it is because they are quiet and get on with their lives they are unnoticed compared with some of the rowdier disreputable ones. Sadly I also know a gypsy who breeds off very young mares and it gave me great satisfaction to prosecute him for cruelty when he allowed a young mare with a foal at foot to effectively starve to death in the field..however I know that the foal will be pushing out babies too now.
 
yep totally agree

i differentiate between gypsies, who ive always found to be nice, and what we called in ireland, knackers, who werent (although for some that was a very general term)
 
We have several "permanent campments near me". The 2 small campments are fine - never bother anyone and are well behaved. I ran in to a couple of the people from the other (council run) site recently at a petrol station. Great fat woman covered with bling yelling at the poor woman at the counter when she asked her to repeat what she said. I could not understand a word either. The poor woman (working on a Saturday night on her own) was really shaken, so I stayed with her until she felt OK. Scum...
 
Are you talking about REAL Romany gypsies or Irish tinkers or Travellers? Very big difference in my opinion.
 
Unfortunately the only time I have been touch with gypsies/tinkers is:

-At horse markets, where they don't particularly treat the horses nicely.
- When they tried to steal my tack then tried to park their caravans in one of my fields because it had running water (in the trough). They left a right mess after I finally managed to get them off.
-When they tried to nick my guard dog, and he went to bite them and the tried to get me done by the police (he was a guard dog and they were trespassing on private property?)
-They nicked a 5 bar gate once, and let the horses out.

Sooo I don't have too good memories of gypsy's but these are only the type I have come into contact with, they are not true irish gypsy traveller's but scum that are intent on causing everybody misery and intimidation. I am aware that the good old-fashioned gypsy's are kind to their horses and travel and respect other people property but unfortunately they seem to be outnumbered by these new louts calling themselves gypsies.
 
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. I ran in to a couple of the people from the other (council run) site recently at a petrol station. Great fat woman covered with bling yelling at the poor woman at the counter when she asked her to repeat what she said. I could not understand a word either.

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Do you know, I am sure they cultivate a wierd Irish accent that only they understand, and they all seem to have it, even those who have never set foot in Ireland......
 
haha, good old irish accents
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but yes they are shocking!
 
I take it you mean my post?!

I completely aggree with what you're saying. But the ones i'm on about are the scum-of-the-earth, stealing, litter-leaving type gypsies, so that's why i dont like these ones!

i love the PROPER gypsies though!
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hehe, im from northern ireland annd hate my accent
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i agree with CM those are the type of "gypsies" that give the "proper" ones a bad name.
they are the ones that we were warned as kids that they would steal our ponies\toys if we didnt look after them
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So do Americans from Boston! I came across 1 years ago who claimed he was Irish and effected an Oirish accent. I was feeling evil, so probed. He, his siblings, his parents, or grandparents had ever set foot in Ireland, yet he still considered himself Irish. I said that my grandfather had left Ireland in 1923, which interested him.

Pausing (for the punchline), I then said that he was irish, and a protestant, and had been a commander in the Black and Tans, and had helped put down the Easter Uprising and had fought in the Civil War. He was also in the Orange Order.

This Bostonian went white, then red, then realised that I was bigger than him (I was in the military then), then mumbled and left. I almost wet myself laughing!
 
Tried to add in something there but deleted my post by accident sorry -
Sorry if this offends anyone, but honestly the Irish travellers here are awful with their horses, tethered at the side of VERY busy roads, practically skin and bone, the trotting races at Ballinasloe horse fair are absolutely appaling to watch, and the amount that have very poorly horses for sale is shocking, but Ballinasloe horse fair is pretty well known for that, but there are some decent honest people (non-travellers) who are just want to sell their horses there as some people who can offer good homes do look for horses there as well... They have their junk thrown absolutely everywhere at the side of the roads, and when I headed to get something in a shop one day up in Meath they were there shouting and cursing their heads off at one another, if they want to do that please do it in front of people who'd rather not hear it...but surely there are some good ones, but around here there aren't any at all, sorry if I do offend anyone just my opinion of them.
 
Theres one road near where i come from, where these so called "gypsies" keep their horses and it is heartbreaking.

mare tethered in middle of roundabout (with cars whizzing around) with foal at foot etc
no water etc
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I totally agree with CastleMouse. I can't stand driving past travellers - it makes me sad to see the damage they are doing to our lovely countryside
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Dirty, cruel........
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had to put mad faces in as the words I want to use are unacceptable on the site!!
 
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. I ran in to a couple of the people from the other (council run) site recently at a petrol station. Great fat woman covered with bling yelling at the poor woman at the counter when she asked her to repeat what she said. I could not understand a word either.

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Do you know, I am sure they cultivate a wierd Irish accent that only they understand, and they all seem to have it, even those who have never set foot in Ireland......

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Have you watched the film Snatch? Famous for introducing the term Pikeys and them all talking in Pikey language
 
Yep CM, (which they have just nicked from some-ones garage!) I couldn't believe it when I saw little kids no older than 6 trying to kick the door in on my tack room, I said what are you doing and they replied with a load of verbal abuse and ran off laughing and cursing with one of my yard brooms!! I seriously wish I had something like a BB gun at the time LOL!!!
 
The only contact I have had with Irish travellers was when I worked with a youth offending team about 15 years ago. All the offences traced to the family ( and there were a lot!) were blamed on those under 16, who were then promptly sent of to Eire! This was a "setled" family of about 14. If they are a typical sample then I can manage the rest of my life without meeting any more.
 
Luckily there are no travellers near my yard or near my house, I have friends who have to be careful with absolutely everything at their yards, as they have portable electric fencers in some fields and they are VERY easily stolen and sold off...
 
Unfortunately you would have got in to trouble, not them. Am I the only person who thinks that the only thing that that Norfolk farmer who shot 2 of them did wrong was only wounding the 2nd and then calling the Police? Pity he didn't bag the brace and chuck them in the silage pit...
 
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Is it as bad/good as Deliverance lol?

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It is an absolutley brilliant film, Guy Ritchie made it and Brad Pitt is a fab Pikey.
 
Ahh now you've opened a can of worms! The last time this was discussed on here it became slightly "exciting"!
 
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Is it as bad/good as Deliverance lol?

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I'd second it. Brilliant film. You really do have to watch it, then you will see what I mean about the 'What's a DARG?' quote.
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Is it as bad/good as Deliverance lol?

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It is an absolutley brilliant film, Guy Ritchie made it and Brad Pitt is a fab Pikey.

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I don't think Guy Ritchie was born when it was made! :S
 
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