Trifein
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Hm I have to say as being a newbie it feels like my threads don't get much acknowledgement because I'm not well know but hey that's the way the cookie crumbles! 
Things that annoy you on here
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Sussexbythesea
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People often use words/terms that others find offensive without realising it. Unless it is said with intent to cause offense , i tend to ignore it. If i got upset/offended every time someone made a derogatory reference to being ginger I would spend a hell of a lot of time being upset.
My son has tourettes, it's a very misunderstood condition, people assume he must swear all the time but he doesn't. Do i get offended when people use it in jokey descriptions of a person or animal?, no, i know from experience it is misunderstood and i feel sorry for their lack of empathy for people with the condition. if someone uses it as a direct insult to my son I'll knock their heads off
My gripe is people seeing something offensive when no real offence is meant
I don't find these words particularly offensive when used in the context it's mostly used here. It's an outdated term that used to be used in a derogatory way about people with cerebral palsy or similar (particularly when I was a child - some may remember Joey Deacon) but I doubt a lot of people especially the younger generation make that connection.
Surely my horse has "special needs" or is "speshul" is just as derogatory as this has a modern meaning of someone who needs additional help to get along in life (for many different reasons) and is commonly used in a derogatory way.
If someone was actually making fun of someone with such a disability then I would be highly offended.
*hic*
village idiot :D
I find that an unpleasant way of referring to people or animals too and am amused that some of those who are offended by the use of terms such as spastic are only to happy to refer to their horses as speshul. Surely what's sauce for the gander is sauce for the goose?
Ibblebibble
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My gripe is people seeing something offensive when no real offence is meant
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exactly, some people just like to feel offended
Enfys
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6 years that is all.Spastic is not a word I use myself. It used to be a derogatory term for those with autism (mongols as they also used to be called), amongst other conditions, but I hadn't heard it for a very long time, even when I was in the UK. Sad, but not unusual, that an ordinary word describing a medical condition should end up as an insult, but that's the way of the world. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spastic
What I was more startled about was the fact that just using it would cause someone to report the user!
Is it now classed as an obscenity then? I have never heard the word used here at all, and I have several friends with autistic family members, I must ask them about that.
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HollyWoozle
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The lack of single, rich, handsome men wanting to marry me. That's annoying.
bluewhippet
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Oh and the other thing that I must say does rather irritate, is when two or three posters veer off into a long flurry of 'in joke' banter that has no relevance to the original post. Why don't you do that by pm rather than clog up the OP's thread? I actually think that is quite rude. I imagine people like this would talk over everybody else at a dinner party, guffawing loudly at their own perceived wit, whilst the poor hostess tries desperately to bring the conversation back to a more inclusive level for all her guests.
I was going to write this, but you have done it far more eloquently.
And I find it really annoying on all forums - people who correct spelling, punctuation and sneer at the ignorance of the poster.
I don't like unparagraphed writing because it is very dense to read but as long as the post is intelligible (which it usually is), I think it is incredibly rude and arrogant to comment on mistakes.
YorksG
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I didn't see that, but if I had, I might have reported it. I'd at least have asked the poster to remove it.[/QUOTE]
I did ask the poster to remove it, got a load of verbal in reply, so pushed the button The thread has now gone.
I did ask the poster to remove it, got a load of verbal in reply, so pushed the button
The thread has now gone.Ibblebibble
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Spastic is not a word I like to hear, or use myself. It used to be a derogatory term for those with autism (mongols as they also used to be called) but I hadn't heard it for a very long time, even when I was in the UK.
What I was more startled about was the fact that just using it would cause someone to report the user!
I have never heard the word used here at all, and I have several friends with autistic family members, I must ask them about that.
mongol used to be used for downs syndrome not autism, that was changed as it was termed derogatory,
Jesstickle
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Spastic is not a word I like to hear, or use myself. It used to be a derogatory term for those with autism (mongols as they also used to be called) but I hadn't heard it for a very long time, even when I was in the UK.
I thought mongol was for Downs sufferers due to the mongoloid features they often have? Obviously outdated now of course.
I guess kids in the playground tend not to get into the particulars and any insulting term is as good as the next!
I use loads of 'offensive' phrases. But I don't mean anything by them and honestly, where do you draw the line?
If I can't say BH is special, can I say he's fat? Can I say he's retarded? If I can't say retarded am I even allowed to say he's stupid? I call him a retard all the time. I refer to myself as a retard and a bit special too. Obviously I don't mean to offend but I guess I am being offensive by some people's standards.
O well, as I've been known to say the 'c' word I doubt there's much hope for me anyway
Chopandchips
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.. not sure that 'Ned' is a particulary pc term either
YorksG
Over the hill and far awa
Spastic is not a word I use myself. It used to be a derogatory term for those with autism (mongols as they also used to be called), amongst other conditions, but I hadn't heard it for a very long time, even when I was in the UK. Sad, but not unusual, that an ordinary word based on a medical condition should end up as an insult, but that's the way of the world. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spastic
What I was more startled about was the fact that just using it would cause someone to report the user!
I have never heard the word used here at all, and I have several friends with autistic family members, I must ask them about that.
Spastic, is not a term for autism or Downs (old term Mongol) which are both very different conditions (different from each other as well), but for a specific medical condition, which causes spasticity in muscles, usually as a result of cerebral palsy, it is/was used here as a term of abuse, as is/was mong, both now considered beyond the pale. They are seen as beng dscriminatory and demeaning about the people with the conditions.
Littlelegs
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I used the word mong for years, as did my friends, without any idea of what its original meaning was. Not in an abusive way, as a friendly insult, like if someone fell off a pony 'ha ha, you mong/plonker/ prat' depending which word was our favourite. When I learnt the meaning as an adult I no longer use it with strangers incase they do take offence. But my friends & I do because to me, it has no relation to downs.
Ibblebibble
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I thought mongol was for Downs sufferers due to the mongoloid features they often have? Obviously outdated now of course.
I guess kids in the playground tend not to get into the particulars and any insulting term is as good as the next!
I use loads of 'offensive' phrases. But I don't mean anything by them and honestly, where do you draw the line?
If I can't say BH is special, can I say he's fat? Can I say he's retarded? If I can't say retarded am I even allowed to say he's stupid? I call him a retard all the time. I refer to myself as a retard and a bit special too. Obviously I don't mean to offend but I guess I am being offensive by some people's standards.
O well, as I've been known to say the 'c' word I doubt there's much hope for me anyway
OMG not the C word
damn thee to hell you blasphemous hag it's one of my frequently used words and i make no apologies for using it.I also call my horses special, retarded etc and shock horrer i call my kids special when they have done something particularly daft, they call me it too sometimes!!
it's all about intent, friends can be quite verbally rude to eachother but never take offense. I went to an agricultural college, some of the phrases and terms used there would make a whore blush but no offense was ever taken.
As i said before though, some people just like to be offended!
Holly Hocks
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What annoys me on here?
People who whine about what annoys them but still carry on posting on the threads. If you don't like photos don't look at them, if you can't get into debate without feeling "bullied", don't post and if you are offended by a word, report the post, put he user on UI and don't read the thread any further.
People who whine about what annoys them but still carry on posting on the threads. If you don't like photos don't look at them, if you can't get into debate without feeling "bullied", don't post and if you are offended by a word, report the post, put he user on UI and don't read the thread any further.
Littlelegs
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Agree ibblebibble. The intent behind it makes the difference.
Crugeran Celt
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Can I have one of yours then please, not that there is anything wrong with my lovely Welsh Sect D but he is such a nervous boy but getting better all the time, thank goodness.
Jesstickle
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OMG not the C word
Obviously I don't mean anything by it. I'd be the last to discriminate against anybody for any reason. Genuinely. I guess that's why I just use them all as words. They are just words to me. I don't attach connotations to them so wouldn't I just say them?
I'm not apologetic about the c word. Or the other words I use that mean the same. I wonder if the swear filter lets me say gash and snatch?
I worked on a racing yard. Every other word was the f word. You had to swear or no one even noticed you were speaking!!ETS: and Don't call me a hag you GINGER!!
Flame_
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If one "insult" word is deemed offensive, it is just replaced by another insult word until that is deemed too offensive. As long as people want to throw insults (lightheartedly or otherwise) there will be offensive words, that is, after all what they are for. You can't insult someone by calling them pretty or clever or perfect can you? You need something offensive or you are giving a flipping compliment. 
Jesstickle
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If one "insult" word is deemed offensive, it is just replaced by another insult word until that is deemed too offensive. As long as people want to throw insults (lightheartedly or otherwise) there will be offensive words, that is, after all what they are for. You can't insult someone by calling them pretty or clever or perfect can you? You need something offensive or you are giving a flipping compliment.
You could use the ultimate insult and call them..... nice.
I would hate to be called nice. What an insipid, horrible thing to say. It's basically a polite way of saying 'you're so insignificant I CBA to think of a single unique characteristic of yours so I'll use this naff generic one instead!'
igglepop
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Please do not post things like this as i now feel the need to use as many of them as possible ..... must refrain before my use of them joins this list.....
must refrain
JFTDWS
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I couldn't agree more. Which is just as well as I reckon a number of posters on this thread could think of much more interesting names to throw at me
Arabelle
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But isn't that the point? They are just words to you. But to someone with cerebral palsy or Down's syndrome they are not 'just words' - they are offensive and derogatory terms. Why would you continue to use a word when it has been explained to you that it could be upsetting to some people whose lives are quite challenging enough anyway?
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That drives me nuts too. Or the ones with a very brief post asking for help but no matter what anyone suggests they've tried it all despite not mentioning anything in the original post. Then they get cross with people for suggesting things they've already done!
Another of my major pet hates is the ones asking for free copies of dressage tests because they "can't find it anywhere" they're £1.50 on Dressage Diagrams, surely if you can afford to compete you can afford to pay that too? Oh and the requests for Preloved advert details. It's 10p a week, hardly breaks the bank! Grrr!
Whoops looks like I got out of bed the wrong side this morning!
All of this!! And dressage test are as little as 40p from BD for a plain written one - go buy your own, I had to!!
Parker79
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I hate it when threads go well off topic.
Enfys
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"It used to be a derogatory term for those with autism (mongols as they also used to be called), amongst other conditions" I didn't say that the word was used correctly, just that is how it was used (as an all encompassing term for any disability that was obvious) when the word was employed when I heard it. I asked some friends about the word 'spastic' and they have never heard of it, and their daughter is visually and physically disabled.
I thought Mongol went 'out of fashion' as it was racist!
There you go, never a day goes by when I don't learn something new on here, and that has to be a good thing What annoys me about this forum? Actually nothing in particular, I am way too lazy to get het up over things. There must be something because I recall saying "That really bugs me..." but it obviously isn't important, I am committing a cardinal sin now and wittering!
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JFTDWS
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Littlelegs
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The reasons I use words that might be offensive to some are because I don't use them as insults. Barsteward, in its correct form which I can't write on here, was originally an insult for someone who's parents aren't married. If someone called my child one refering to my marital status, I would be offended. If people use it for any other reason, its not offensive, use it myself because it doesn't have any meaning to me. Same can be said of most words.
Jesstickle
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Because any word has the potential to cause offence doesn't it? The intent with which it is used surely is more important.
Am I allowed to call someone fat? Ginger? Lardy Mc Chubba Flubba? Baldy? What about chav? the 'p' word that is swear filtered out on this forum? My dad is Jewish, can people make Jew jokes to me? My CEO is a Northerner, can I laugh at him for having short arms and deep pockets and for speaking 'funny'? My mother is starting to become forgetful, can I call her senile? My OH comes from a deeply working class family and I pull his leg about it because I don't. All of these would offend some people if I said them in the wrong way to the wrong person.
However, if no one used any of the words to their friends that could ever be insulting to someone we'd all be pretty blimming silent wouldn't we? Part of being an adult is learning who and what you can say in which circumstances. Admitting I use these words behind closed doors, with no malice, to people I know and can gauge the reactions of, does not, in my humble opinion, make me a bad person.
Much worse to never say it but to think people with disabilities, no hair, senility, of different religions etc are lesser beings don't you think?
dominobrown
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1) How long this thread has taken me to read, it was quite funny at one point
2) Lack of understanding of the term CC (constructive criticism). So in theory someone notices a fault with the OP riding, e.g heels are drawn up, not sitting up etc, horse not round enough, and then gives some advice. Saying that the OP can't ride, is usless/ cruel etc is NOT CC. Also if you ask for CC then you must be prepared for people to pull your riding apart, though they should be polite and helpful.
3) How easily annoyed you lot are
2) Lack of understanding of the term CC (constructive criticism). So in theory someone notices a fault with the OP riding, e.g heels are drawn up, not sitting up etc, horse not round enough, and then gives some advice. Saying that the OP can't ride, is usless/ cruel etc is NOT CC. Also if you ask for CC then you must be prepared for people to pull your riding apart, though they should be polite and helpful.
3) How easily annoyed you lot are