think its rains scald/rot what do you think?

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So two of the nags, who are in different feilds, stables are at opposiste ends of the barn, own growning kit and their feild mates are fine, have had these crusty lumps for a while, vet checked not ringworm like we were worrried about( not that big of a deal if it was) but said it looks like a skin infection/irritation.....so gave Malesab to wash every three days

he isn't itchy just gets annoyed when we take crusts off before washing, they come up as an unbroken lump the crust over with this yellowy liquid then when that comes off for washing it leaves this little crater with hair growing through and red just been on google and it sounds an awfall lot like Rain Scald/Rot or the big name Dermatophibsis.

Malesab isn't working so what you would you wonderful people suggest?

Hot Chococlate and Cookies for answers.

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Vet advised me to clip the area and wash with hibiscrub when one of mine got it, it seemed to do the trick as he cleared up. :)
 
My pony did not have it that badly he just had the scabs and some hairloss not the puss.

I had to wash my pony every day with this medicated shampoo for 10 days

http://www.petvetmedical.co.uk/vet-solutions-universal-medicated-shampoo-473ML.htm

I also had to put on some cream from the vets it was made by the vets not a branded cream.

His back had to be kept clean and dry so he had to wear his LW turnout and the vet clipped the infected area to make it easier to treat.

The hair started growing back very quickly and he recoved very quickly.
 
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My friends mare had it with the lumps that turned to puss and the vet gave her a branded cream which seemed to work along with daily spot treating/washing.
 
slightlyconfused said:
Thank you......is it me or does Malesab not seem to work anymore:confused:

does it sound like what yours got?
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Mine didn't have the yellow fluid just hair loss and scabs but it sounds very similar. The hair came away in clumps with a scabby lump attached. The hibiscrub worked quite quickly and his hair is growing back lovely now.
 
Mine has had this on and off for about 9 months. It started off as what the vet thought was a bacterial infection (though I thought it was protein lumps... turned out to be a bit of both!) so he gave me ABs and Malaseb which cleared up the bacterial side. Took me a while to work out what he's allergic to which caused the protein lumps (alfalfa and haylage!). It mostly cleared up but it does flare up every now and then. Now it looks more like blocked pores or acne. Vet saw it a couple of weeks ago and wasn't concerned, said keep using Malaseb.

So...I've tried loads of things on it.. antihisthamine cream, Malaseb, Dermoline, tea tree shampoo, citronella shampoo (I think it is partly flies/midges in the field and also partly heat rash as it comes up when he works hard so sweats, or is too hot), aloe vera, loads of things. Last week my YO suggested bathing him (in warm water so it washes out properly) with Johnsons baby shampoo. Bingo!! It cleared up about 85% overnight and the remaining ones have gone since I put Sudocrem on them.

I have no idea what causes it but it seems that Johnsons baby shampoo and Sudocrem are the key instead of anti bacterial and anti fungal shampoos (which I am now starting to think do more harm than good!).
 
Rainscald seems to be pretty common in our area at the moment, I think its probably due to the heat we have had recently and some pretty heavy downpours, and lots of flies about which I'm sure have something to do with it.

The rainscald is caused by anaerobic bacteria which work away under the scabs which is why the scabs need to come off and get some air to the wounds.

I use baby oil laced with tea tree oil to break up the scabs, once it gets to work on the scabs they break up easily without causing any distress to the horse.

Sudocreme seems to be quite effective on the sores if there are any.
 
We've had two with similar symptoms this year. One a TB with a history of rainscald had small yellow pus scabs on face, legs and heels which was treated with antibiotics and a silver AG wash which cleared up very quickly. The other a Sec A with no history of rainscald had exactly the same symptoms as the TB but treated with hibiscrub and a branded topical ointment. Initially healed up slower but then returned once he was turned back out after time in with laminitis. The vet diagnosed second time as contact allergy currently treating with antibiotics, antihistamines, malaseb and a prescription antibacterial cream.
They both looked similar for the first couple of weeks but have progressed very differently.
Not sure if this is of any help but I was pleased with the effects of the AG silver wash and cream.
 
Damm.phone.....what is the full name of the AG Wash? Vet is comimg out next week to look at little pony for something else, see infected tail thread.....on of them is laminitic and spent most of last year in on box rest and before then was mostly out in rainy weather with no problems so maybe the box rest softened his skin.....maybe......:D
 
Clean the wounds daily, get rid of the scabs and then treat with a strong disinfectant for a couple of days and then continue the washing and a cream to keep the wounds from scabbing over. If it has become chronic you can use a soda crystal solution to clean the infected areas and then start the above. The other thing to look at, it might sound odd, is the nutrition system. When was the horse last wormed and have you had a droppings analysis done? Even if you worm regularly your horse can still have worms. Is the horse getting all the nutrients it needs? Are its teeth in good shape and do you feed a good quality supplement to ensure it is getting all its basic minerals, vitamins etc?
 
If the vet is out, please get him to take some skin scrapings to test for bacteria.

There are other things that present like rainscald, though rainscald or lice is most likely - but it's worth having it checked as I found out.
 
Thanks guys......GoodyGoody we are on a yard worming program every 12 weeks any the poop cleared out of the feild every other day.......PopularFurball was was thinking of doing that.

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The other thing to look at, it might sound odd, is the nutrition system. When was the horse last wormed and have you had a droppings analysis done? Even if you worm regularly your horse can still have worms. Is the horse getting all the nutrients it needs? Are its teeth in good shape and do you feed a good quality supplement to ensure it is getting all its basic minerals, vitamins etc?[/QUOTE]

Not odd at all, it is down to nutrition a lot of the time. A talk with a nutritionist would be beneficial.
 
Have to be very careful on what we feed him....his insulin levels are perfect at the mo and he wont eat his metformin without happy hoof. (I know its not that popular among the laminitic owners on here but he wont eat it with anything else and its half a round scoop with 15 tablets, garlic and vit/min supplement twice aday) he is on soaked hay and grazed for 6hours on a bare paddock.......the othet ones diet hasnt changed for the last four years, grass and hay, soaked in summer as a good doer.
 
Spiritedly said:
Vet advised me to clip the area and wash with hibiscrub when one of mine got it, it seemed to do the trick as he cleared up. :)
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Agree. Shave affected area. Course of antibiotic from vet coupled with dabbing of neat hibbiscrub several times a day on affected area, using damp sponge. Would not attempt to remove crusty bits, leave them alone and it may heal more quickly.
 
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