This weeks H&H am I right to be fuming??

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Sat this morning shouting at the magazine
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Article about breeding natives with TB's for good sportshorses - not a single bl**dy mention of the Cleveland Bay - please correct me but they are a native breed are they not??:(
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Did find a redeeming snippet about the King George and a picture of Southbrook Spellbound last years winner
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Haven't seen this weeks yet.... you could book yourself a train ticket down to London and protest outside IPC's offices with banners a loudspeaker and a brazier? We could get to see you on the news and you would def raise the profile of CB's. Better still - you could ride Donkey there?
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They clearly need telling and you are the woman for the job!
 
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I am just so passionate about the breed and frustrated that so many consider them to be unfashionable - they will remain unfashionable if people don't sing their praises!!!

Will try and scrabble down from my large soapbox!
 
Except as a carriage horse
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- my girl would never lower herself to lugging a carriage around
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- she wants to go hunting
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I agree they should be included. I have had two CB x TB's and they were both fab horses. Would give my right arm to have em back tomorrow if I could.
Lets start a petition
 
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I am just so passionate about the breed and frustrated that so many consider them to be unfashionable - they will remain unfashionable if people don't sing their praises!!!



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How can the lovely CB be unfashionable?? Ever since I saw my first CB I have always been in awe of their beauty. But then I love anything Native.
 
Sitting on the fence here for my sins but -

When people talk/write about natives, it is almost a given that they just mean native ponies! Very few even think or know of native horses which is why CBs are overlooked so much.

I know you hate me saying it (red rag to a bull comes to mind!) but personally, the further away from a CB, the happier I am; all the ones I have known have been bargy, opinionated and moody; I put them on the same level as a shetland and hate anything to do with them. They're one saving grace is they can be quite pretty/handsome!!

Think it's time for the pen to come out to H & H; remember, it's always mightier than the sword!
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all the ones I have known have been bargy, opinionated and moody

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That's because you've never met my girl
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Tis like humans they are grumpy ones of them too but we don't condem the whole of mankind because of that. I think they are a super breed
 
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the further away from a CB, the happier I am; all the ones I have known have been bargy, opinionated and moody; I put them on the same level as a shetland and hate anything to do with them.

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and what is wrong with a shetland?? They're not moody or opinionated, just big horses stuck in little bodies, it isnt their fault.
Seriously though, breeds can have traits, but it's all about how you treat them. Shetties get treated like pets, which they're not. They're just smart and cunning, you cannot give them an inch.
 
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the further away from a CB, the happier I am; all the ones I have known have been bargy, opinionated and moody; I put them on the same level as a shetland and hate anything to do with them.


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Tee hee, couldn't agree more!
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So nice to not be alone!!

But apologies to lovers of them although when you have been bitten, kicked, mashed through a brick wall, just for starters by some of them, your judgement has a right to be a little predujiced I feel!
 
please please please can we talk about putting stonks in foal with a nice TB?

mmmmmmmm, maybe a dream horse!

If only Ty had his tackle - they'd make gorge babies xx
 
Surely the whole point of crossing a TB with a native pony (as nearly all riding club horses used to be) is to produce something with a brain (hence CB not mentioned). ***runs and hids***
 
OMG you better have a good hiding place!!!!

Seriously though - this is on the same lines as dogs surely? We have people on here who love Rotties and GSD's etc but who the "general masses" run away from in terror and a sniff of them and calling them devil dogs etc... Yet we mainly agree its not the breed, its the way they have been trained etc.

So really, tarring shetlands and CB's with a stubborn stupid rep is wrong, but then you find the same prejudices with a lot of horses - TB's being flighy, arabs more so, mares being stroppy and chestnut mares being awful...

Well I have a chestnut mare that is totally untypical, she's 3/4 TB and not flighty, and I'd not hesitate to use an arab/tb/cb stallion on her if they had the characteristics I wanted.

So yes, SSM - get the pen out and write to HH for being CB-ist!
 
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I think your right, I have nothing against chestnut mares and was looking for one when ended up with coloured!!! At the end of the day I don't care about the breeding as long as the horse does its job. Wouldn't go looking for a CB as the ones I have known have been nappy and stubborn, or an Arab as again the ones I have known have had filthy stops and been very hot headed. However did have a lovely TB who was nothing like the stereo type.

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She will be put in foal eventually, trouble is I having so much fun with her!!!! However it will be an arranged marriage - to a Cleveland Bay!!!!!

The point of this post was not to knock other breeds, colours etc - just to point out that the CB had been overlooked yet again as an excellent TB cross
 
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She will be put in foal eventually, trouble is I having so much fun with her!!!! However it will be an arranged marriage - to a Cleveland Bay!!!!!

The point of this post was not to knock other breeds, colours etc - just to point out that the CB had been overlooked yet again as an excellent TB cross

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Fair enough. I love CB's but also love TB's so wanted the best of both worlds!
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You go for it SSM.

At the yard where I worked when I was younger the YO had a CB he was such a softie.

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