Thoroughbred/racehorse experts! Good bloodlines?

I'd love to know what any tb experts would make of my horse's bloodlines. He's by Cape Cross out of a mare called Savage. He has Green Dessert as his Sire's Sire and bloodlines on his dam's side which go back to Bold Ruler. (Sire of Secretariat lol)
A friend is doing one of her BHS levels this year and wants to used my boy as one of her case studies. He's VERY straight through the hocks, croup high, over at the knee on his ns front (though I think that is through a knock when racing rather than genetics) has extraordinarilly flat feet and has a slight parrot mouth pmsl! And don't even get me started on his complex charachter ;-) Other than all that he's perfect.
 
jesstickle said:
Lots of Green Desert horses. We should have a reunion :p :D
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Haha, knowing my luck they'd all go loopy :p

Hmm Green Desert/Native Dancer in Red that might explain his part donkey moments crossed with his ability to throw his toys out the pram/get very excited! I read his sire Kheleyf is meant to be quite chilled, shame it didn't filter down :o
 
Anyone know what Overbury's are like temperament wise? Thinking about going to look at one as my boy seems to have a permanent sicknote thing going on. I have heard they are nice?
 
Broke but happy - can't quote on phone. Mine goes upright in the field and happily stands there waving for quite a few seconds. I've even got her doing a half-pass in rear (6 bouncy steps sideways). She only went up once with me on her but that was probably me asking to much. She's never done it since or even thought about it. She's also a dope-on-a-rope :D
 
I've just got a gelding - sire is Tobougg / dam is Lady Emily (Alflora) - I can find very little about temperaments. Does anyone know anything about the sire line particularly?
 
Reading the posts on here about your horseys quirks is great fun!! Not sure I would find all of ut quite so amusing if I was having to deal with it though...In the 3 years I have had my horsey the worse he has ever done is trot (calmly) on the lunge while I was asking for walk for about 10 minutes (this was the record) but we put that down to him being deaf!!
Has anyone got Spectrum as a sire...interested to know what personality traits he pass's on...mine is defo dope on a rope, but very pretty!
 
carefreegirl said:
Broke but happy - can't quote on phone. Mine goes upright in the field and happily stands there waving for quite a few seconds. I've even got her doing a half-pass in rear (6 bouncy steps sideways). She only went up once with me on her but that was probably me asking to much. She's never done it since or even thought about it. She's also a dope-on-a-rope :D
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Mine stood bolt upright stood outside the saddlers the day after I bought when I was getting her tack, she then went up again when asking her to walk past a haylage bale that was (deliberately by the farmer) blocking a gate, when asking her to walk over a SJ pole and when asking her to leave the yard on her own...
 
http://www.pedigreequery.com/red+deputy

Here's my old nutty red-headed TB. :) By Deputy Minister out of Secret Red. Has Secretariat as his grand-sire on his dam's side and Northern Dancer on both sides...oh the inbreeding :p He was raced a bit over fences (can't really see why) and although he never won, he was nearly always top 3. Think he sold for a ridiculous amount (as in somewhere near a million) as a yearling. Sad since we bought him for about $5,000 as a 5 year old :eek: He was quite nutty, but a fantastic jumper and beautiful at dressage! If Mum hadn't had a really bad fall (actually not his fault for once), I would've kept on eventing him. Unfortunately we sold him on to a woman that didn't take our advice (he was prone to ulcers and had very high withers so we sold his saddle on to her but she didn't use it and rode him into the ground) so she had to retire him a couple of years ago which is sad as he's only 18 this year so should have plenty of pep left in him :(
 
Lol a Green Desert reunion sounds like it could be pretty entertaining given their relative quirks!!
Done the pedigree search thing on mine, as well as having the Danzig, Northern Dancer lines on the Green Desert side, he's got Mill Reef as great-grand sire on dam's side :D

Some pics of him in case anyone can see any similarities between theirs and mine. Conformation wise, he is a bit downhill with cr@p feet, and was kind of a weed when I got him, but has turned into a bit of a powerhouse now. Sorry in advance for what will probably be an overload..

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Doing what he does best- showing off!
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Oh and sorry to overload even more but here's Green Desert if anyone with offspring wants to see a pic:

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Don't know about anyone else but the second one bears more resemblance to mine than the first! ;)
 
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jesstickle said:
Don't know but Green Desert is my mares grandsire (he sired Green Horizon, who she is by)
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I'm another one in the Green Desert club... :D

My 5yr old gelding (unnamed on his PP) is by Desert Prince (by Green Desert) and out of Betelgeuse... Dam sire is Kalaglow... I know nothing about TB blood lines and my lad won't race - but if anyone has any gems of insight or knowledge about his pedigree I'd love to hear it... He's only a little guy at 15.2 - an enormous girth line but not at all heavy built and very easy going... I think my son was hoping they might event a little when they've both grown up a bit... :) Unless son outgrows him which is looking quite possible at the moment... :(

Sire: http://www.pedigreequery.com/desert+prince

Dam: http://www.pedigreequery.com/betelgeuse

:)
 
Lolo said:
On that note, I've heard Alflora horses are talented, tend to be worriers and very old-fashioned types but very nice on the eye. Reg fulfils this stereotype with aplomb :D
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Ive known 2 Alflora's both lovely horses though one can be a little snippy at times when she's uber fit!
 
Cape Crosses tend to be quite cheeky and happy go lucky but with dodgy limbs. The Toubougs we have had have been genuinely nice horses to deal with, a little over excitable but sane and safe with upright limbs bd cracking jumps in then. Of the Overburies they have been a bit sharp to begin with but settle well the more work they do.
 
EKW said:
Cape Crosses tend to be quite cheeky and happy go lucky but with dodgy limbs. The Toubougs we have had have been genuinely nice horses to deal with, a little over excitable but sane and safe with upright limbs bd cracking jumps in then. Of the Overburies they have been a bit sharp to begin with but settle well the more work they do.
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Just my luck then that I would get a horse by Cape Cross with a crappy personnality but has inherited the dodgy limbs lol! (His mothers name is Savage......that alone should speak volumes) Good job I love him :D
 
EKW said:
Cape Crosses tend to be quite cheeky and happy go lucky but with dodgy limbs. The Toubougs we have had have been genuinely nice horses to deal with, a little over excitable but sane and safe with upright limbs bd cracking jumps in then. Of the Overburies they have been a bit sharp to begin with but settle well the more work they do.
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Thank you - so with a Toubough x Aflora dam our new boy should be okay :) He is a very nice chilled character, very short backed but with a huge shoulder. Only been with us for a week but signs are good so far.
 
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BoolavogueDC said:
Mine is 4 gen back, dam side. Didn't know you can trace them back to Darley arabian! Mine's an ISH mind. My mare is CH one side and ND the other. She too has a nice nature, very clever but very obliging :)
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I can trace all mine back to the Darley, the Byerly and Childers through a horse called Three Bars, mine are Quarter Horses and Paints! In the end most that can be traced far enough back climbed out of the same puddle :)
 
jesstickle, might just be wishful thinking but Green Horizon does remind me of mine in certain aspects! :)
 
Starry_eyes said:
Anyone know anything about my boy's bloodlines? http://www.pedigreequery.com/star+prize3 I have literally no idea whether they are good or not. All I know is he's big, strong, kind, calm (well, 90% of the time) and can jump the moon! Oh and gets fat on fresh air lol :)

Ooo found him on the sports horse database too! http://www.sporthorse-data.com/d?z=Rs34r2&d=star+prize&x=15&y=12 I have no idea why he is on here!
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We've had 3 Fourstars Allstars in 2 of them were good doers, the other just couldn't keep weight no matter how much we fed him, and he always ate everything. All 3 were genuinely nice, lovable horses, good jumpers but a touch nervy.

Your horses lines are quite generic to be honest, nothing special about them but they are what you would expect from Jump horses of that era.
 
Thanks EKW! It's lovely to hear about his pedigree. Although having had a look at some in his line that have been quite successful racehorses, I wonder how he turned out to be abysmally carp at it! lol. My gain tho, he's fab :-)
 
Ladydragon said:
I'm another one in the Green Desert club... :D

My 5yr old gelding (unnamed on his PP) is by Desert Prince (by Green Desert) and out of Betelgeuse... Dam sire is Kalaglow... I know nothing about TB blood lines and my lad won't race - but if anyone has any gems of insight or knowledge about his pedigree I'd love to hear it... He's only a little guy at 15.2 - an enormous girth line but not at all heavy built and very easy going... I think my son was hoping they might event a little when they've both grown up a bit... :) Unless son outgrows him which is looking quite possible at the moment... :(

Sire: http://www.pedigreequery.com/desert+prince

Dam: http://www.pedigreequery.com/betelgeuse

:)
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Arhh, my late old boy was by Kalaglow. Chestnut, 15.3hh with the biggest, deepest girth I've ever know on any horse. He had a heart of gold, 3 good feet, and one crap foot that didn't allow his talent to shine in any sphere. BUT, a true gem to do.
 
My girl has TB on one side, and the names I recognise are Baron Blakeney and Master Spiritus....anyone have any 'rellies' or knows about these?
 
my stallion has nasrullah, through grey sovereign, and when i read about him i nearly fell over, the discription of his antics before the chatteris stakes in 1943,( which he delayed for 8 minutes and after won) were a carbon copy of my horse, totally genuine but spends a few minutes faffing around then changes completely, then shocks me with his wonderful ways!

and i'm not imagining this neither because his oldest foal is now being broken and shows exactly the same behavoir, i find it highly amusing and very endearing to think that nasrullah lives on!
 
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