eahotson
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O.B agree with all the way.
Thought you may find this interesting.
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welshied
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My horse is barefoot and my farrier trims his feet and does a great job
shadowboy
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Haha i sense this is in response to my post- so I guess I'll say good for you to put your point in although it was not aimed at you in any way, and like I said before im neither pro or against farriers. I have one barefoot horse (14 months) and one shod (24 years). So i am willing to take on either path with the horses, what I was fed up with is the attitude of farriers sometimes- and we have seen many many posts on here 'my farrier didnt show/my farrier keeps cancelling on me...' i have nothing against the trade, my OH wanted to do it but couldnt afford to train at this stage in his life. Just fed up with the dewey eyed look of liveries plying (their) farrier with sadwiches, tea etc then handing over their £70 only for him to turn up two days late 6 weeks (+2 days later)....
There are bloody good farriers out there (I had an amazing one in Aberystwyth), but it sees also some who take advantage of our reliance upon them, we horse people in our desperation to want to care for our horses are willing to do anything not to loose a farrier....and some who treat it purely as a business will use that.
The fact that you are on here obviously shows your interest but no eveyone is like you. Just like there are poor carpenters, doctors and in my profession there are poor teachers!
There are bloody good farriers out there (I had an amazing one in Aberystwyth), but it sees also some who take advantage of our reliance upon them, we horse people in our desperation to want to care for our horses are willing to do anything not to loose a farrier....and some who treat it purely as a business will use that.
The fact that you are on here obviously shows your interest but no eveyone is like you. Just like there are poor carpenters, doctors and in my profession there are poor teachers!
SpruceRI
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Okay I am old fashioned and to me horses were always shod or unshod, not barefoot.
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Me too - I hate this 'barefoot' lark. They're just unshod aren't they?
My farrier believes the same as TheFarrier. That horses should only have shoes on if they need them, for the work they do, or they have poor hoof horn.
And like someone else said in another post, I have a rasp, that he gave me, one of his bluntish ones, and I use that to take the flakey bits off the 2 unshod ponies in between his trims.
Me doing that was also excellent training for all mine when they were babies to learn how to hold their feet up for the farrier and get used to being trimmed as quite rightly, farrier also says that it's not his job to teach the youngsters - it's mine!
Okay I am old fashioned and to me horses were always shod or unshod, not barefoot.
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Me too - I hate this 'barefoot' lark. They're just unshod aren't they?
My farrier believes the same as TheFarrier. That horses should only have shoes on if they need them, for the work they do, or they have poor hoof horn.
And like someone else said in another post, I have a rasp, that he gave me, one of his bluntish ones, and I use that to take the flakey bits off the 2 unshod ponies in between his trims.
Me doing that was also excellent training for all mine when they were babies to learn how to hold their feet up for the farrier and get used to being trimmed as quite rightly, farrier also says that it's not his job to teach the youngsters - it's mine!
Silverspring
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Me too - I hate this 'barefoot' lark. They're just unshod aren't they?
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Unshod to me means a shod horse that has had it's shoes removed for a period of time...ie they plan on putting shoes back on the horse. To keep a horse barefoot, to me, means the horse will never have shoes on in the future unless required due to an ailment.
My personal hate is people reading barefoot as some sort of NH/Parelli term, I don't do join up or carrot stick my horse in any way shape or form. I don't put shoes on her either, she is kept barefoot.
Me too - I hate this 'barefoot' lark. They're just unshod aren't they?
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Unshod to me means a shod horse that has had it's shoes removed for a period of time...ie they plan on putting shoes back on the horse. To keep a horse barefoot, to me, means the horse will never have shoes on in the future unless required due to an ailment.
My personal hate is people reading barefoot as some sort of NH/Parelli term, I don't do join up or carrot stick my horse in any way shape or form. I don't put shoes on her either, she is kept barefoot.
Chestnuttymare
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Good for you farrier. I am sure there are many more like you and unfortunately a few that couldn't lace your boots. Like in any profession, there are good and bad.
I have said it before, i would not let someone who has very little training and no regulatory body, come anywhere near my horses feet. I Have a great relationship with my farrier and i trust him implicitly. The reason being, he has had years of training, my horses have brilliant feet, (thanks to him), my horses like him, he is reliable and cares abouit the horses.
The people who are saying they are thinking about trimming their horses feet themselves, are off their nut.
One wrong cut and they have wrecked their horse and given him pain.
I think there should be legislation to prevent anybody, be it owners or these so called barefoot trimmer, or these strasser people, from taking any sort of blade anywhere near a horses foot. No doubt i will get shot down in flames for this but , tbh, i don't really give a stuff.
I have said it before, i would not let someone who has very little training and no regulatory body, come anywhere near my horses feet. I Have a great relationship with my farrier and i trust him implicitly. The reason being, he has had years of training, my horses have brilliant feet, (thanks to him), my horses like him, he is reliable and cares abouit the horses.
The people who are saying they are thinking about trimming their horses feet themselves, are off their nut.
One wrong cut and they have wrecked their horse and given him pain.
I think there should be legislation to prevent anybody, be it owners or these so called barefoot trimmer, or these strasser people, from taking any sort of blade anywhere near a horses foot. No doubt i will get shot down in flames for this but , tbh, i don't really give a stuff.
Sparklet
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I would always pick the most experience and qualified person to deal with my horses feet...barefoot or shod. That person is my farrier, I completely trust his judgement.
cbmcts
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I have one shod, one who hasn't ever had shoes on and would never use anybody but a farrier....
Over the years I've had my fair share of rubbish farriers - unreliable, too rough with the horses and so on but with one notable exception all have at least known their job even if I haven't been able to get on with them for other reasons.
My farrier knows he has to bring the biscuits if he wants coffee - and if he's late he has to bring extra chocolate
as a penalty.....we keep on telling him we don't want him to get conceited or spoilt. LOL
Over the years I've had my fair share of rubbish farriers - unreliable, too rough with the horses and so on but with one notable exception all have at least known their job even if I haven't been able to get on with them for other reasons.
My farrier knows he has to bring the biscuits if he wants coffee - and if he's late he has to bring extra chocolate
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Donkeymad
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Okay I am old fashioned and to me horses were always shod or unshod, not barefoot.
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Me too - I hate this 'barefoot' lark. They're just unshod aren't they?
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Me three, but I better keep quiet as apparently I am a rude donkey!
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Okay I am old fashioned and to me horses were always shod or unshod, not barefoot.
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Me too - I hate this 'barefoot' lark. They're just unshod aren't they?
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Me three, but I better keep quiet as apparently I am a rude donkey!
Tormenta
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All mine are unshod but are trimmed when needed by my Farrier who I have used for years. If anything cropped up I would trust his judgement and my horses wellbeing 100%, he knows more about horses than me anyway
I am lucky enough to have horses with good feet and I owe it to him and his advice that they are and can cope being unshod.
Brandysnap
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Well said The Farrier!!!!
FWIW I have a brilliant Farrier who trims and shoes my horses (not all shod). He turns up on time, gives advice and reassurance on my horses feet, and I trust him to do a good and professional job. After all, he is the one that trained for years, so he knows what he's doing!!!
I also don't know enough about "barefoot trimmers" to comment, but, call me old fashioned, I think I'll stick to my Farrier thanks!!
I also recall that the German woman who started this "trend" was charged with cruelty, so I think 'nough said!!
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Hi all friends,
I think this epitomises it.
(While wishing my farrier would always turn up on time...!! Love him to bits though!! Sorts problems, tells me jokes, we're great mates)
I believe that this whole 'barefoot' problem has arisen from a new 'idea', sold to an uneducated part of the horsey world, when in fact many of us work horses unshod, in the right circumstances. (Eg: i would never work one of my TBxs without shoes, even in the school, but my other TBx is fine)
But, the crux of the matter is that some horses have unfortunately suffered substantially, and sadly, the horse rescue places to which many of us donate, don't seem to have any power to intervene, before the case becomes desperate.
Maybe it's up to us to explain to people just how vital a good farrier is for equine survival in a Western world, and let's hope our voice is heard?
All bests, BS x
Well said The Farrier!!!!
FWIW I have a brilliant Farrier who trims and shoes my horses (not all shod). He turns up on time, gives advice and reassurance on my horses feet, and I trust him to do a good and professional job. After all, he is the one that trained for years, so he knows what he's doing!!!
I also don't know enough about "barefoot trimmers" to comment, but, call me old fashioned, I think I'll stick to my Farrier thanks!!
I also recall that the German woman who started this "trend" was charged with cruelty, so I think 'nough said!!
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Hi all friends,
I think this epitomises it.
(While wishing my farrier would always turn up on time...!! Love him to bits though!! Sorts problems, tells me jokes, we're great mates)
I believe that this whole 'barefoot' problem has arisen from a new 'idea', sold to an uneducated part of the horsey world, when in fact many of us work horses unshod, in the right circumstances. (Eg: i would never work one of my TBxs without shoes, even in the school, but my other TBx is fine)
But, the crux of the matter is that some horses have unfortunately suffered substantially, and sadly, the horse rescue places to which many of us donate, don't seem to have any power to intervene, before the case becomes desperate.
Maybe it's up to us to explain to people just how vital a good farrier is for equine survival in a Western world, and let's hope our voice is heard?
All bests, BS x
Brandysnap
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...And like someone else said in another post, I have a rasp, that he gave me, one of his bluntish ones, and I use that to take the flakey bits off the 2 unshod ponies in between his trims.
Me doing that was also excellent training for all mine when they were babies to learn how to hold their feet up for the farrier and get used to being trimmed as quite rightly, farrier also says that it's not his job to teach the youngsters - it's mine!
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Hi
I'd like to stick my neck out here, + say that isn't good farriership practice in my opinion. Picking feet up, etc, is good preparation, but using a rasp is a little more specialised, with potential harm to your ponies. Did you receive any training from him about foot balance, etc? How far can you go before you hit laminae? Where can you safely rasp, + where shouldn't you? Did your farrier's insurance cover you for rasping your horses' feet?
I wouldn't dream of rasping a horse's foot, although i've been taught how to remove a shoe in an emergency.
All bests, BS x
...And like someone else said in another post, I have a rasp, that he gave me, one of his bluntish ones, and I use that to take the flakey bits off the 2 unshod ponies in between his trims.
Me doing that was also excellent training for all mine when they were babies to learn how to hold their feet up for the farrier and get used to being trimmed as quite rightly, farrier also says that it's not his job to teach the youngsters - it's mine!
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Hi
I'd like to stick my neck out here, + say that isn't good farriership practice in my opinion. Picking feet up, etc, is good preparation, but using a rasp is a little more specialised, with potential harm to your ponies. Did you receive any training from him about foot balance, etc? How far can you go before you hit laminae? Where can you safely rasp, + where shouldn't you? Did your farrier's insurance cover you for rasping your horses' feet?
I wouldn't dream of rasping a horse's foot, although i've been taught how to remove a shoe in an emergency.
All bests, BS x
brighteyes
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You aren't going to do much to a hoof with a blunt rasp - I think just holding the foot of a youngster and giving it the lightest of wipes around the perimeter is good practise for any young equine in advance of/in between farrier attention.
Brandysnap
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Hi brighteyes,
You didn't answer my questions!
You'll be an MP soon!!
(All light-hearted, just in case anyone gets wrong idea in our PC world!)
All bests, BS x
You didn't answer my questions!
All bests, BS x