thoughts on this horse please?

That front end would give me nightmares. At the risk of sounding awful, you would have to pay me quite a bit of money for me to say "yep, I'll take that horse and look after it as best I can".
 
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I certainly would not want to be breeding from her with those front legs although a potential mare as a carrier for embryo transfer in a year or two if you have a good competition mare you want to keep in work and have a foal from.
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Really? Are you sure? Would you let her carry a foal at all if her joints are compromised? You wouldn't ride her if that cannot be corrected and so for me if would be quite unthinkable to have her carry a foal no matter how it was put there.

There are a significant amount of SOUND mares out there... not quite understanding the logic behind this.
 
Saw this earlier. Tb or not tb if its a truely unbroken 2 year old it would still be holding a lot more summer weight than that!!

It also wouldn't be clipped or shod.

Pretty sure it's probably been in training if you look at how tuck up it still is :( something has probably gone wrong.

Very sad as looks sweet :(
 
I actually think the second picture is intentional so as to highlight the issue and be open about it.

You have horses with big conformational issues who stay sound throughout their lives and horses who are well put together but constantly broken. Of course buying one with a known fault is always a risk.

I like her face but then I like a chestnut mare.
 
horrible photos, not a broodmare by any means, but turned away for a couple of years she might make a good hack, my gut says there's more to her than meets the eye, I think I would take the risk for a hack, my trotter x is pigeon toed and never been sick or sorry in 6yrs
 
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My first thoughts were no way she's only two! But perhaps I'm just used to natives and TBs really do mature that fast.

Also the reason for clipping sounds like a load of bs. An underweight TB does not grow a thick enough coat to overheat! And even if it were so, a full clip is unusual. That's the clip of a horse in work. So I'd question the unbacked claim. Although ring worm also sounds plausible...
 
Made the pics as big as I could on the iPad. There are three definite circles on her, one above each leg clip line, one on her ribs, some below mane, possibly. What the heck is wrong with her knees? Just in front of her bum is a dark patch shaped like a hoof print that has red round it. There's red on the point of the hip too. Can't see if she's shod or not, grass is too long.

She's incredibly narrow looking at the front on pic.
 
tallyho! said:
If you like her, be prepared to start corrective footwork either by trimming or farriery... but beginning heavy farriery at this age is just asking for a leaky pocket.

I actually think, otherwise she has nice features for a young tb.. at 2 you generally see what they may mature into and I'm not sure she will stay sound enough if you start work early before you sort out the bowed knees.
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I want to respond to this as she is sadly too old for anything to be done about those knees via trimming or farriery.
 
bonny said:
If that's an unbroken 2 year old I'll eat my pc !
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'Broken' training project more like?

My OTTB didn't look much different weight-wise straight out of training, so that wouldn't worry me....but the knees would I'm afraid.
 
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her off hind appears very swollen, I'd be leaning towards tendon damage/rupture or very severe ligament damage tbh. Especially from just above fetlock to whole pastern.

She could have started training but tendon blown before could race hence becoming a rescue.

I also don't think she is truly bench knee/carpus valrus as I think her off fore elbow is turned more which could make the legs appear worse. Hard to judge off a picture!

I'd just be very wary of that off hind.
 
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Yeah front legs look weird though she may just be standing with her elbows out. I would want to see pics of her stood straight on a flat surface, you can't judge a horse from those photos!

Eta just rolling out a pic of my horse out to prove the point. He's quite attractive in reality!

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I agree the clipped and shod thing doesn't suggest unbacked. I'm guessing this is a thoroughbred?

Yeah, conformation aint great. But I feel sorry for her and hope she has a soft landing. Preferably not as a broodmare.
 
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OM - I spotted the swollen pastern too. I also wondered if the NH pastern was also swollen, but it is partly obscured in that photo. I think there is more wrong with the forelegs than just an awkward stance. :(
 
Going away from the legs for a second - the neck looks about 1/3 too long compared to the body. That is a REALLY long neck!
 
These are terrible photos. They are so bad and distorted that I have no idea what the mares conformation really is.
 
twiggy2 said:
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2yrs old advertised as unbacked, companion or broodmare with great breeding good to shoe box clip
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My initial reaction was that the horse has glaringly obvious bench knees. However, after looking again, I am not so sure. The near front is rotated at the elbow so could be giving that impression. The off fore is not weight bearing in the photo and so may still be slightly bent at the knee. In which case, an absolutely terrible photo. The thing about bench knee, is that it is due to offset cannon bones where the cannon bone sits to the outside, rather than being centrally aligned with the forearm. The near fore looks to be turned from the elbow, but the cannon bone is in line with the forearm and so may not be bench knees. I would need to see further photographs or view the horse in person to be sure of whether there is a problem or it is just an unfortunate moment to take the photograph.
 
All TBs are now microchipped, so should be easy to trace both owner and trainer, if it was ever trained at licenced premises.
Its never going to be of much use, sad to say.
 
I agree she's not got bench knees, it looks more like a mild case of rickets. I'd be very surprised if that was just a bad photo, and I agree with whoever out was who suggested that the photo may be deliberate, so people know what they are getting into. How much do they want for her, does anyone know? I wouldn't take her if they paid me, poor lass.
 
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I agree she's not got bench knees, it looks more like a mild case of rickets. I'd be very surprised if that was just a bad photo, and I agree with whoever out was who suggested that the photo may be deliberate, so people know what they are getting into. How much do they want for her, does anyone know? I wouldn't take her if they paid me, poor lass.
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£500
 
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