Thoughts please, does this sound like ulcers?

keepitugly

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I have an 8yo gelding whom I've owned for 8 years. He's not done much work in his life due to lack of my time, his illness and in recent years his unsoundness. He has always been a handful, very explosive at times. Other days he can come out and be quiet as a lamb and not put a hoof out of line.

I moved him to a new yard a few months ago, the set up of the stables is different and he was very stressy at first, he was also going back and forth to the vets and he dropped a fair bit of weight. He's now in his routine and he's looking fantastic. He's now sound enough to bring back into work. I'm meant to walk him for 15 minutes the first week then increase etc.

Now his behaviour is odd, I mean he may just be that sort of horse, I've never come across something quite like him before. I reschool/break horses for a living, he has me stumped. I can get him to work and get through to him, I do a lot of groundwork with him to get him using his brain and he does settle, but sometimes the explosions we go through to get there are so over the top. At the moment he's even stressy around the yard, walking to his field he's got eyes on stalks, he's flinchy and jumpy at every noise etc. He is not rude, he really wants to try for you, but sometimes it's like he can't contain himself. He is also not a nervous horse to handle, you could hang off his ears and he wouldn't care, it's just his environment he can't seem to cope with change.

a few people have mentioned the possibility of ulcers, does this sort of behaviour correlate with that? Also what about a magnesium deficiency?

Just any thoughts you have. He's not always like this, it seems he's struggling to settle in the new stables especially, he is absolutely fine and chilled in the field with his buddies, and was fine in his stable at the last yard but it was a very open set up where he could see others. Although he's always been a tigger at feed times rearing up and bouncing at the door, to give you an idea of his general personality.
 
Thanks, I wouldn't say he's girthy and he's definitely not grumpy at all, he's just so sharp and on edge, he's on a mission every where.

I'll definitely call vet on Monday, we did discuss them before but got left to the side while we were dealing with lameness. I don't think it can be pain anywhere else as he's now had two full lameness work ups, including X-rays and bone scans of back, pelvis, legs etc. And he's keeping condition fine, he doesn't look unhappy.

Thank you. Any thoughts on the magnesium deficiency, not sure if its worth trying that first?
 
I take that back, very unobservant of me, he was kicking up a back leg and scowling when I was doing his roller up today, I remember him doing it last time he was in work as well. Will ring vet on Monday.
 
Personally I'd get him in for a scope first, then you know what you are dealing with. The scope is relatively inexpensive, and you will then know if he has them or not, and if so what grade.
 
I discussed this with my vet yesterday, one of mine is similar very edgy, unsettled at times and spooky to ride, otherwise very few ulcer type symptoms but he has a history of recent injury, hospital stay, loads of drugs etc, my vet feels due to the history he may well have ulcers and is keen to scope so we can get to the bottom of it and hopefully treat or at least rule it out so we can move forward.
Another one of mine had all the classic symptoms but scoped clear so it can be hard to guess what is going on as some are more stoic than others.
 
Thank you, several professionals (chiro etc) have said ulcers to me after seeing his behaviour, we've been spending so long trying to get him sound it was left on the back burner, he's just been going in the field so he's jolly enough and I suppose you don't notice so much of the behaviour and put it down to a new yard etc. He is a very stressy horse, he stayed one night at the vets recently and they said he didn't stop box walking, got so tucked up. So it makes sense that he would have them.

I will definitely speak to my vet on Monday and try to get him booked in. I may be wrong, but have I read somewhere that they can have ulcers further along somewhere they can't/don't scope? Also can someone run me through the general treatment options so I know what to expect and at least be a bit more informed when speaking to vet.

He's unfortunately not insured anymore as the premiums weren't worth it now all 4 limbs, feet, back and pelvis are excluded! So it makes no odds to me whether you can claim on the insurance for certain treatments.

Thanks again.
 
My girl was just scoped thursday and found grade 3 ulcers (4 are the worst).
She had mild colic type symptoms every now and then, smelly poo's, bloated gassy tummy and sensitive flanks.
She is now on a 4 week course of gastrogard at £160 per week (please shop around as my last vet charged £300 per week!!!) Im pretty sure this is the only treatment then management is the key.
 
I've been reading up and I wish I hadn't, there is so much contradicting advice. What is the treatment for hindgut ulcers? I am ringing vet on Monday, I'm sure he'll know his stuff, just trying to gather information, I'm a stresser.
 
I felt the same keepitugle. You want to research to feel like you can help your horse but drive yourself mad with it.
I wish I went to the 2nd vet I used in the first place and I wish i rang them sooner.
 
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