Thoughts please

[Roasted Chestnuts]

Hi folks

I’m just looking for thoughts on these bumps. Some are soft and some are harder, some are itchy and some aren’t. I’ve taken him off all feed and he’s still got them, he’s on the same source of hay/haylege and same source for straw that he has been since we moved in June.

I’ve hibi scrub washed him, no effect, oiled his coat, no effect, treated him with spot on, no effect, washed him with dermoline, no effect.

I’ve currently started feeding him sarcxpell to see if that helps and I’m about to try antihistamines if I can get them to see if that takes them down.

Just looking to make sure I’ve covered all bases before I get the vet in and they ask have I tried everything

 

[ycbm]

I can't help, but the horse next to mine has what looks identical and apparently gets it every winter.

I would have thought they were very unlikely to be sarcoids.

 

[Gallop_Away]

My pony had a something similar a few years ago. Vet put it down to an allergic reaction. Treated with steroids and it went away. Touch wood he's never had it previously and not had it since.

 

[meleeka]

Could it be an allergy to his rug? Did he have them before he was clipped? It looks either bacterial or probably allergy like to me.

 

[ihatework]

I’d consider giving him a steroid jab, malesab shampoo and depending on his level of rugging drop a weight.

Plus wash his rugs in antibacterial stuff

 

[Roasted Chestnuts]

I can't help, but the horse next to mine has what looks identical and apparently gets it every winter.

I would have thought they were very unlikely to be sarcoids.

Thank you he didn’t have them in summer but did have the odd fly bite as he hates fly rugs so he doesn’t wear one those just reacted like the usual bits and went down with a clean and some topical treatment.

My pony had a something similar a few years ago. Vet put it down to an allergic reaction. Treated with steroids and it went away. Touch wood he's never had it previously and not had it since.

What type of steroids? I’m very wary of them with him being Welsh and them maybe giving him lami, he’s not overweight at present Id say he’s getting fitter the more work we are doing but it still worries me

Could it be an allergy to his rug? Did he have them before he was clipped? It looks either bacterial or probably allergy like to me.

The bumps are thereason I clipped him as some he was rubbing and scratching at. He’s wearing the same rug he was before I clipped him

thanks guys you are making me think

 

[Roasted Chestnuts]

I’d consider giving him a steroid jab, malesab shampoo and depending on his level of rugging drop a weight.

Plus wash his rugs in antibacterial stuff

Maleseb. Never used that before I’ll go google.

He’s normally in a 200g standard neck going down to a no fill on milder days, being Scotland the weather isn’t that forgiving at this time of year he’s only been in his 200g combo when it’s been lower than -3/4 and his 350g standard when it was -10 to -14 here. I try not to over rug as it helps his weight is that helpful for info?? Maybe I should have put that in the original post

I may look to purchase a 100g I was loathe to buy rugs as he’s still growing but I’m hoping he tops out at 6ft6 rugs

 

[Goldenstar]

This is like Sky they come up a various times particularly in winter when he’s rugged .
They where very bad when I bought him .
Hes had biopsy and all sorts done they have never found a cause .We worked out he is reactive to shavings and straw we use rape for him now.
He needs to be kept cool and close clipped all year round .
He needs to unrugged part of everyday no matter how bad the weather is .He is unrugged most of the year And kept in very very light rigs for a fully clipped horse he’s clipped all year .
It helps to get him in Uv light as much as possible .
He is worse spring and autumn when coat is pushing through .
At least a weekly bath helps hes grey so necessary anyway .
We never found a link to diet or to what we wash things in .
He has hard calcified pores on his back under the saddle which are where these lumps have been affected by the weight of the saddle he where there on vetting and are easily managed .

 

[Gallop_Away]

It was the powdered oral steroids if that helps. We tried anti inflammatory medication first but it didn't work. Vet was cautious because my pony to is a welshie and lives on fresh air but we carefully managed him whilst on his steroids and for a few weeks afterwards and he was fine.

 

[Goldenstar]

As above Sky needed steroids when he arrived but I have not needed them since.
and he gets worse if he gains weight .

 

[Roasted Chestnuts]

This is like Sky they come up a various times particularly in winter when he’s rugged .
They where very bad when I bought him .
Hes had biopsy and all sorts done they have never found a cause .We worked out he is reactive to shavings and straw we use rape for him now.
He needs to be kept cool and close clipped all year round .
He needs to unrugged part of everyday no matter how bad the weather is .He is unrugged most of the year And kept in very very light rigs for a fully clipped horse he’s clipped all year .
It helps to get him in Uv light as much as possible .
He is worse spring and autumn when coat is pushing through .
At least a weekly bath helps hes grey so necessary anyway .
We never found a link to diet or to what we wash things in .
He has hard calcified pores on his back under the saddle which are where these lumps have been affected by the weight of the saddle he where there on vetting and are easily managed .

That is extremely helpful as I’m loathe to go down the vet route if I don’t have to, he is insured so that’s not a bother its just if it’s going to spent ££££s and not find a cause then I’m not keen to do it.

I may buy a sun lamp for his stable

 

[Goldenstar]

We do have Malaseb for Sky and it does work but mostly use Dermline anti itch shampoo or head and shoulders .

 

[Ossy2]

Look like heat rashes to me, have you recently clipped?

 

[Roasted Chestnuts]

Look like heat rashes to me, have you recently clipped?

no unfortunately he was clipped a while ago, he had the bumps before he was clipped

It’s to be a steady 6-8 for the next few days so he’s in his rain sheet.

 

[rextherobber]

You need a prescription for Malaseb.one of mine gets this fir no reason I or the vets have ever established, it seems absolutely random. Ordinary human antihistamines work, I give between - 15 - 30 a day, for a 15.3-16hh

 

[cauda equina]

One of mine (chestnut) got bumps very similar to this two summers ago
The vet came, did skin scrapings and hair plucks and nothing showed up.
I was told to bath him in Malaseb and did so without improvement until it got too cold to bath then gave up.
Some months after that the lumps disappeared, only to return 8 weeks or so ago
This time I am ignoring them

 

[Sossigpoker]

Mine has a few of them , they became apparent after clipping or developed after clipping. Tbh im.ignoring them and treating them as blocked pores. If they are really deep , a bit like in cystic acne, surface treatments like washes won't do very much. He's not itchy or sore so I'm just ignoring them.

 

[SEL]

I had a huge problem with one of mine. We tried ringworm wash, antibiotics and loads of stuff but they'd come back every winter and she'd itch herself to blood.

I did a soil test when I moved to this yard and we're low in copper so I have supplemented. First winter with zero itchy, bumpy issues. I suspect the whole area is low in copper (she's always been on yards within a 20mile radius) so I'm guessing it was some sort of nutritional issue with her. Before I thought it was sweat related because she likes to be in a warm rug but I've rugged her to the eyeballs this winter.

 

[Roasted Chestnuts]

So going to speak to the vet about Maleseb also going to try him on some of my (rather large m) antihistamines. He’s been in a lighter rug for the last few days. This was him tonight, still bumpy as you can see but he’s not itching etc

 

[Fleece Navidad]

Can you try a different source for hay/haylage? Mine was allergic to hay that we had last summer, was grand on it for a while, went for a short holiday, came back home and after about a week began reacting to the hay. He was very lumpy, but 24 hours off the hay he massively improved and I think after about 48 hours he was clear.