thrush that won't go away! update

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Some of you may remember me asking for other treatments for thrush as my friends pony had had the vet twice and it still wasn't going. She had a different vet from the same surgery today and unfortunately it is canker.please pass this post along on facebook and pm ne any ideas of veterinary colleges that may be interested in using Arthur as research into treatment. Please please help this go viral! As insurance won't cover it as it was only 2 weeks after buying him it started. She's not after donations, just ideas on how to do this at less than the £3000 minimum that bell equine currently want. https://m.facebook.com/groups/53002...activity&actorid=1409026757&__user=1828873319
 
I'm not sure. He needs to go in and go under an anaesthetic and then have his frogs cut away. It's spread to all 4 hooves now but you can't see it in the other three. That's just the cost of the treatment. It's pretty unheard of, so unsure if this is Tue reason? It doesn't include his stay for 3-4 weeks in the vets after. And then it will be a slog for a couple of years of rehab.
 
This is quite a nice summary of the treatment involved. I imagine that 1 GA and debridement of all 4 feet is going to be expensive. Daily care post op if done at the vets (which might be preferable) is going to add up.

I'm so sorry for your friend OP.
 
The £3000 is just the initial op. It's then a 3-4 week stay at the vets and remedial farrierry (sp?) every 6 week's for the forseeable future which will be in the region of hundreds each time. I wasn't there when the vet came today so didn't get a full explanation. I've just been asked to share. I don't want to ask my friend as she's currently very upset and having to explain it all to her daughters.
 
Perhaps appeal to teaching equine vet hospitals too?

I heard that canker was rearing its head again. I used to be terrified that I'd lose my horse to it due to persistent thrush following ultimately fatal other foot issues..

I hope your friends horse gets the necessary treatment and recovers quickly, and well..
 
I have read a less veterinary approach here http://www.barehoofcare.com/canker.html so treatment and slow removal/burning off of diseased tissue, I wonder if Sarah was able to take a similar approach.

I do think that treatment of all 4 feet is possibly going to cause complications, depending perhaps on how sore the pony is.
 
I think i read that its only in one hind foot

OP if the owners finances are in such a precarious state due to a run of bad luck I have to say i wouldnt go ahead. Not very constructive sorry.
 
I have read a less veterinary approach here http://www.barehoofcare.com/canker.html so treatment and slow removal/burning off of diseased tissue, I wonder if Sarah was able to take a similar approach.
I have no real idea of detail but the canker looked different from photos with lots of what looked like necrotic tissue. Every case is different of course. I was thinking Sarah will have leared lots about canker in general and might have some ideas to help. Here's the link to the story.
http://www.performancebarefoot.co.uk/page73.html
 
It was just one hind that showed symptoms of thrush but vet says he has it in all 4 now. I personally wouldn't because of prognosis but it isn't my horse, so I can only share what I've been asked to. She just wants ideas of teaching hospitals or of people that are currently doing research into causes and treatment.
 
I'm not sure anyone is doing research into canker over here these days, it's pretty rare now-a barefoot specialist might be your best bet. The teaching hospitals are sometimes a little cheaper than private practices-if I were her and wanting to continue, I'd be contacting all the major hospitals to see but wouldn't hold my breath on cheaper treatment-all they would get out of it is an unusual case study. Still, you don't get if you don't ask!
 
if the canker was pre-existing then would it not be possible to claim on the insurance that was in force when the condition first started? Unless the last insurance company have a time limit for claims?
Seems stupid that a horse would have to be un-insured for 6 weeks just because it had been sold?

A friend of mine has a horse that is currently being treated for canker in all of the feet, it was very bad as it had got so deep it had gone into the bones and it has been at the vets for ages but it is getting better now. I know both the vet and farrier that are looking after it so I can give you the details if you like
 
Re. the insurance I can completely understand that they will not be happy to pay out as given the progression of the disease it seems highly likely that it was a pre-existing condition, I suspect that their insistence on 6 weeks might depend on the presenting illness. Presumably any insurance held by the previous owner has now been cancelled anyway and as such is not valid.
 
what i ment was, if it can be proven to be pre-existing then the previous insurance would have been valid when the canker developed so should still pay for it?

we had a house once that had problems with the walls and our insurance company said it must have been like that or got like that before we insured it and the builder guy said the same so the claim was made from the insurance of the previous owner as the house basically fell down while he had it insured so they had to pay for it.
I dont think horse insurance will work the same but 6 weeks is a long time for something to happen with a horse and if they are going to hurt themselves they could do it in the first couple of days running about in a new place when they move in anyway
 
I don't think the previous owners even had insurance. He had just had a trim and not much frog when she went to see and brought him so assuming they probably knew but unfortunately nothing can be proved with a private sale with no vetting and a sold as seen receipt. Although I don't know many people that would vet a horse they knew for 4 years before and was £500 including tack. Definitely puts you off ever buying without a vetting and personally makes me want to go to dealers so I have some come back at least!
 
Original thread that I can't find now, owner and previous vet thought it was thrush in just the one hind. Not the case now unfortunately. He won't stop stamping any of his feet and has the horrible white growths before it's cleaned. Thoroughly gross and really stinks.
 
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