Thuja for sarcoids - any experiences?

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My horse has a circular (about 10p sized), bald, very slightly raised, area under his mane, just where his whorl is. Its been there about 18 months and hasnt caused trouble, except for being unsightly when his mane is pulled really short. I asked the vet to take a look when he was out last week and he thought it was a sarcoid. Ive read about thuja working and wondered if anyone has any experiences (good or bad). I've used Liverpool cream for other sarcoids on the sheath area on this horse a couple of years ago, but those were a different type (stalk-like ones). I dont think its worth paying for Liverpool cream again for this small one and wondered if anything else could pursuade the patch to disappear.
 
Thuja has been used by many people for sarcoids some have success some dont.
I used Bye wart-with thuja as an ingrediant on my youngsters warts and helped a lot.
Sometimes the sarcoids are best left alone if possible. If they are in girth area they can be a real pain in the neck.
 
Well thanks for responding before you logged off!! I just wonder if I made the right choice giving him a second chance.
 
ldlp111 said:
Well thanks for responding before you logged off!! I just wonder if I made the right choice giving him a second chance.
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:eek: :confused: I posted about the thuja, then left to collect my children from school. Sorry, I logged off just before your post must have appeared and didn't have time to see it until now (and I've only JUST got back in from the school run and logged back on to see if anyone had replied to my query.) Jeeze. PMT today????? :rolleyes:
 
Millyard Rejects said:
Thuja has been used by many people for sarcoids some have success some dont.
I used Bye wart-with thuja as an ingrediant on my youngsters warts and helped a lot.
Sometimes the sarcoids are best left alone if possible. If they are in girth area they can be a real pain in the neck.
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Thanks. How long did you have to use the Bye Wart before seeing a change in your youngsters growth? Ive been reading about the thuja and they say to use it 2 or 3 times a day for a week (the tablets and cream) but I assume thats a loading dose and it would need to be used for longer?

Since mines fairly unobtrusive and not causing any harm Im not sure whether to treat it or leave it alone. Be nice for it to go tho but I wouldnt like to upset it and make it worse either.
 
a friend of mine's horse had several small sarcoids on his face and back when she got him (none bigger than a 5p) and thuja cream has got rid of them. took a while but now you would hardly know he ever had them.
 
I'm sorry if I came across rude just seemed like you logged off to ignore me. So how is he? :)
 
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And yet again you have gone without replying.... I don't care what has happened to him, I don't care if you fixed him and sold him for loads of money or sent him to potters just wonder what happened to him.
 
I tried it with a little reduction on a sarcoid on a young horse's sheath but he had another rather large one on the inside of his lower lip.
I put him on NAF D-tox and both were gone within three months. The one inside his lip was fairly big and raised the one on his sheath about the size of a golf ball.
 
ldlp111 said:
And yet again you have gone without replying.... I don't care what has happened to him, I don't care if you fixed him and sold him for loads of money or sent him to potters just wonder what happened to him.
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Why don't you back off a bit? If I'd been op I'd have probably made you wait for an answer as well after your second post. Particulary as she doesn't have to tell you anything. Maybe you could deal with this by a pm rather than on the public forum?

I've had only good results with Thuja, on different forms of sarcoids. I recommend Crossgates Farm, they are really helpful. I'd say just bear in mind it can take a while to work, which can be a bit nerve wracking. You probably have to be ready to decide to change your mind and call the vet if it starts to worry her.
 
phantomhorse said:
Thanks. How long did you have to use the Bye Wart before seeing a change in your youngsters growth? Ive been reading about the thuja and they say to use it 2 or 3 times a day for a week (the tablets and cream) but I assume thats a loading dose and it would need to be used for longer?

Since mines fairly unobtrusive and not causing any harm Im not sure whether to treat it or leave it alone. Be nice for it to go tho but I wouldnt like to upset it and make it worse either.
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Well I used it twice daily for a week then daily for a couple more weeks! Id say 6 weeks to see total difference and warts disappearing.
He also had some vitamin supplements just to boost his immune system.
But the warts changed in appearance within the week- took loads of photos!
The Bye wart is a human cream-but saw ingredient was thuja and tea tree oil,almond and lemon oil.
Sarcoids can be tricky though and if it aint broke.....;)
But Id definatly try this same cream on sarcoids if any horse of mine had them:)
 
Worked really well on a horse I had. I used the cream (no pills) and applied it twice a day. He had both large flat sarcoids and the warty types and both fell off leaving pink skin. Hair then grew back.
 
Tinypony said:
Why don't you back off a bit? If I'd been op I'd have probably made you wait for an answer as well after your second post. Particulary as she doesn't have to tell you anything. Maybe you could deal with this by a pm rather than on the public forum?
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Actually, I think ldlp111 has every right to ask what happened to the horse, and it's already been stated that OP is ignoring emails from her... :(

Back to the topic of sarcoids, I've recently used Liverpool cream on my mare and it really isn't too expensive :)
 
Havnt used this cream but fed SarcoidX by Global Herbs but the sarcoid I treated was nodular and was just absorbed.

As for the horse that idlp111 mentioned I cant understand why the op hasnt answered her, how would you feel if the situation was reversed. Come on op do the decent thing.
 
Hi there we recently used the liverpool cream to treat quite a nasty sarcoid, We think fingers crossed that it has worked :) but will have to wait and see. The cream is fairly expensive but what really racks the cost up is that a vet has to apply it and this is done over a course of applications, up to 5 and then there is allways the chance of needing further treatment!

I hate sarcoids! :p they are a pain! good luck with treating your horses hope all goes well xx
 
0ldmare said:
Agree, don't really see why the OP can't provide an update re the horse. Seems odd to me
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Excuse me but whose business is this, except Laura and mine?
For everyones information I was messaging and sending photos of Ben after I bought him from Laura in 2009. Then over a year ago the messages stopped (as they often do from old owners after a while) and I haven’t heard a dicky bird from Laura since. No emails. No PMs. Nothing. Then completely out of the blue she enquires after him by posting a reply on this post yesterday, but before Ive even had a chance to even read the post she posted again - within 4 minutes of the first enquiry. FOUR minutes! Accusing me of ignoring her. I wasnt. For goodness sakes, I don’t spend all day sat watching MY posts on the H&H forum. I log in and log out regularly, but fairly quickly in between chores, work and children, as well as looking at other posts whilst Im on here. Id have replied to Laura by PM but didn’t get the chance before shed posted twice again. I wasn’t ignoring you Laura I just needed time to reply under the circumstances.

And hey ‘other’ on here people who have commented about me, give me a break. Its bad enough. I dont need others on here jumping on the band wagon just for the sake of involving themselves in making unwarranted digs at me about something they do not know the facts about.

Since this is now public, about dear Ben: he really was a lovely sweet boy and moved like a dream but there was something very wrong with him. He would tremble in the stable and panic at the slightest noise. This did not settle in all the time I had him. In the paddock he was equally anxious. He didn’t shake and tremble but hed pace and never properly settle or relax. Always watchful. I did ground work with him but he was particularly terrified of anything around his back end – it was impossible to lunge with two reins or long rein him – he’d bolt in absolute blind panic. He was ridden once, and bolted, by which time we were starting to figure something more was wrong than just temperament or training issues. He was often a bugger to catch but I noticed he was much happier if you approached and handled him from the offside and something just clicked in my mind and I wondered about his sight being 100%. To cut a long story short, investigations confirmed degenerative eye disease (PRE, they think) and I ended up having him PTS last year. I am not sure when the eye problems would have started but it accounts for a lot about him and why he was always so stressed and anxious. Poor boy. I only wish Id had him vetted when he first came to me and picked up the problem sooner. But he was fat and glossy when he went and I was hugging him and feeding him Polos as he was PTS. For once he was very calm and relaxed but he is the first horse Ive ever had to have PTS and it was still a difficult experience and one I try not to dwell on.
 
Just read your post.

I have a mare with sarcoids, and I have just started to feed global herbs sarc-ex to her. I looked in to liverpool cream, but her skin is far to sensitive to put her through that, I also looked at thuja before coming across this supplement.

Her overall skin condition has improved in the two weeks she's been on it, obviously no reduction in sarcoid as yet, but I'm hopefull.

And btw, you didn't have to post that in this thread, it's no-ones business, and I am sorry about the horse :(
 
Hi

Sorry if I seemed rude asking about him, I did email you and sent a pm on here and didn't hear back so not sure if you didn't get them or what. Again I am sorry I didn't pm you but I assumed I wouldn't get a response for whatever reason. Thank you so much though for clearing that up for me it means a great deal (am sat here in tears now) and helps to explain what happened. Didn't even occur to me that there could of been something wrong with his eyes, such a shame as he was a nice horse. I am glad he was happy when he went thank you so much.
Again I am sorry for being rude in my posts.

Thanks :)
 
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