Thyroid cancer?

Annagain

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Not even sure why I'm writing this, just to get it out, I think.

My 11-12ish year old rescue dog has developed two lumps in her throat area. They popped up pretty much overnight. She's riddled with lipomas so I assumed that's what they were but as they were close to her wind pipe I thought it best to check them out in case they were going to interfere with her breathing. We went to the vet last night and he's concerned -due to the location more than anything - that they might be an "enlarged thyroid".

He never mentioned tumours but having googled (I know, I know) it seems that the main (if not only) cause of an enlarged thyroid is tumours and 90% of the tumours that develop to a detectable size are malignant. The fact that there's one on each side also seems suspect to me - with hindsight, the chances of two lipomas in that area at the same time seems like a huge coincidence. I never thought it was anything other than lipomas but thinking about it, the thyroid makes so much more sense.

He took a fine needle aspirate to send for histology. Having done that he was more hopeful that they are lipomas as the matter he removed was very clear and looked quite oily/fatty to him. He said thyroid tumours often have a lot more blood in them so the matter would normally be pinkish rather than clear, but obviously that's not always the case. We should know by the end of the week. She has no other symptoms is eating and drinking normally, isn't snoring any more than she always has and is her usual bright and bouncy self.

I'm terrified it could be cancer and if so, how long she'll have. I don't want to put her through extensive surgery at her age, although she's very fit other than a bit of arthritis and doesn't act her age at all. From an entirely selfish point of view, my biggest fear at the moment is that it could be weeks rather than months. My OH and I are going on the Lions tour in 4 weeks for a month. We've saved for 10 years for this trip. M will be staying with my parents as she always does when we go away and I don't want them to have to deal with any of this or have to make any decision while we're away. They already do enough for me and I could never ask them to take that responsibility. If that's likely, I'd rather call it a day before we go but the thought of only having a few weeks left with her is heartbreaking. The only info I can find about prognosis is if they have successful surgery.
 
Step away from Google. Wait and see what your vet says.
If she is bouncy and happy then I think you bwill just have to take the gamble that your parents will have to look after her. Would you have a friend who could get her sorted if you felt it would be too much for your parents to decide? It is only 8 weeks until you are back from your Lion's tour.
Think positive, hope for the best and plan for the worst I think. You would hate yourself if you had her PTS far too soon, IMO.
 
The daft thing is I've given my friend who will be looking after my horse written permission to PTS if necessary while I'm away (I've never been away this long before and am panicking a bit already) as he's 21 with a few health issues. I didn't even consider it for the dog, although my parents know I would want them to do the right thing and wouldn't think twice about doing it if necessary.
 
If your parents are reasonably dog savvy people who you trust then problem solved. :-)

They are and I trust them completely. It's more that I don't want to put them in the position of having too. They already do so much for me and have so much on their plate. Mum has spent the last 10 years ever since she retired caring for her mother in law and parents who have all lived with them at various points. My granddad had Alzheimer's for years until he died 2 years ago. Grandma is still living with them and while she's relatively healthy it stops them going away. They should really be the ones going on a holiday of a lifetime not me, so I feel awful going away for a month and potentially leaving them with the responsibility of a sick dog too.
 
I am not meaning this horribly, but that is a seperate problem. Perhaps you could go and stay for a few days when you get back so they can go away to a hotel and have a break? I don't know your finances but perhaps you could put money towards the stay?
 
I am not meaning this horribly, but that is a seperate problem. Perhaps you could go and stay for a few days when you get back so they can go away to a hotel and have a break? I don't know your finances but perhaps you could put money towards the stay?

You're right. They do get away for a few days here and there and I'm going to be staying with my grandma this weekend while they go away. I've been anxious / feeling guilty about going away for so long for a while and I think the closer it gets, the worse it is. This has just added to it. It's weird because I'm also really looking forward to it in some ways.
 
Poor you, firstly remember the dog doesn't know there is a potentially a problem (or not) so make sure you don't tell her. Secondly I really know exactly what you are going through.

Last October my 11 year old lab had an investigation for a head tilt and a possible polyp in her ear, she was referred to big vet hospital as I wanted lots of imaging done before making any decisions about surgery.

It was very bad news, 3 separate tumours and metastases in her chest. Vet gave her until Xmas.

Now the positive bit. Xmas came and went, then I ummed and arrred about whether I should go skiing, eventually decided to go but was very fearful, dog was fine, had another skiing holiday booked in late March/early April, dog had deteriorated very slightly but not too bad so went away again, dog was absolutely fine. Dog continued to go down hill very gradually, still going for a walk and enjoying her food until 10 days ago when she suddenly went worse. The vet came for a home visit and we said goodbye.

Even if the news is bad vets always err on the side of caution, they always give you the worst case, I could have put my life on hold for 4 months and gained nothing. Instead I carried on as normal (remember don't let the dog know you are worried).

I know what you mean about the going away bit, but if the dog is happy at your mums then go ahead and enjoy your holiday, if the worst happens the dog will be with someone who cares, that's all that matters. Mothers don't worry about the burdens their kids pile on them, it comes with the job description.

I like Clodagh's idea of you staying with Grandma so mum gets a short break.
 
You're right. They do get away for a few days here and there and I'm going to be staying with my grandma this weekend while they go away. I've been anxious / feeling guilty about going away for so long for a while and I think the closer it gets, the worse it is. This has just added to it. It's weird because I'm also really looking forward to it in some ways.

Anxiety and happiness follow very similar pathways in the brain and we often get confused between the too, I'm anxious about going away to NZ too. I always get very anxious about going away overnight and this is even worse.
 
Anxiety and happiness follow very similar pathways in the brain and we often get confused between the too, I'm anxious about going away to NZ too. I always get very anxious about going away overnight and this is even worse.

You ARE me! I think it's guilt rather than anxiety. I know both Archie and Mabel are in the best possible hands so I'm not worried about them but I feel guilty that others are having to do my jobs for me. I've not been anywhere for more than 5 days since I was a child!
 
You ARE me! I think it's guilt rather than anxiety. I know both Archie and Mabel are in the best possible hands so I'm not worried about them but I feel guilty that others are having to do my jobs for me. I've not been anywhere for more than 5 days since I was a child!

Yup we tend to do 5 or 6 day short breaks too, but every 3 years or so I give in to my husband wanting to travel further afield, it's a bit weird after 5 days as I'm expecting to come home again but I generally get on and enjoy it far more than I feared I would.

I spent this weekend sorting a possible route and itinerary, husband isn't too bothered as long as we get to the games!. First camper van night will be near Waitomo gloworm caves, then the forgotten highway to the west coast, stay a few hours away fro Wellie, then 2 nights in Wellie.
 
I am the only person on this thread not going to NZ, but having not been abroad for 16 years I am going to Canada and Iceland for a fortnight and am bricking it!
 
I am the only person on this thread not going to NZ, but having not been abroad for 16 years I am going to Canada and Iceland for a fortnight and am bricking it!

Thistle and I have been swapping New Zealand Lions tour plans for a couple of weeks! You will love Iceland, I can't recommend it highly enough. We went in 2011. I probably wouldn't have chosen it but I won a Welsh TV quiz show and that was the prize so we didn't have much choice. It's definitely the best holiday destination we've been to. It's literally like nowhere else on earth and the people are the most naturally friendly people I've come across (especially if you're British rather than American!).Our trips were paid for but it's well worth the extra to pay for a 4x4 trip up to the glacier rather the bus trip. We felt very smug driving past the bus turning circle and we saw so much more and our guide was so knowledgeable and as it was just us he was able to answer all our questions. Whale watching was also lovely but the seas were very rough so that's worth bearing in mind if you're not much of a sailor. I rode an Icelandic horse too and got to tolt which was a novelty. A two hour ride was enough for me though to be honest. I'm never too bothered about riding when I'm on holiday!
 
I am going whale watching in Canada. We are going riding in Iceland, I haven't ridden for 3 years so that will be the rest of the holiday in bed!! We need an outing for our second day, I may look into the 4 x 4 tour, thank you.
 
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