'TIC TOC....THE TRUTH' FB page...

Hmmm??
For those that can't see it, that's the description...
This page has been set up in an attempt to discover the truth about the disappearance of Tic Toc, the 24 year old pony which is said to have been stolen from Ramsey St Marys near Peterborough. There have been many people giving up their valued time to this search, yet he has not to our knowledge been found. Upon making enquiries it has been found that leads have not been followed up and the basic enquiries have not been made. The CCTV made available by the local shop was not checked, there are no posters in the village. Enquiries with the immediate neighbours were not made. They were not aware of a missing pony. The locals have confirmed the gates were often being left open. The Police are said to be still investigating and Mid-level checking the rivers, these statements are also not true. It is alleged there are continued problems with visitors to the yard every night last week, letting Josh's new pony out of his stable and that the Police have been informed and are conducting surveillance. Again this is not true. Therefore was Tic Toc stolen, or did he simply escape. There are numerous dangerous large ditches, drains and the River Nene within a few hundred meters away. People have been pledging money and offering ponies to the family. Please be polite with your comments and posts. This is not a vindictive site but the 18000 Stolen Tic Toc group members deserve to know the truth. They then have the ability to make their own decisions. Thank you.
 
The page is back up, I requested to join the group and was instantly accepted. Looks like she shut it down then reopened it two hours ago, so not much info on it, only two hours' worth
 
Have copy and pasted this, obviously leaving out names! Each new paragraph is a different person leaving a comment - can't see anything on the page about the theory of him being shot?


What makes the story worse is that TicToc is one of several horses there and is clearly the least valuable...

I agree Natalie, this is why so many people think it is a vendetta against the family. Why else would you take the child's pony? Because it will have the biggest impact on the family! It is also strange that the new pony has been let out of its stable every day in the last week but the police and Horsewatch are apparently not interested? Very strange!

Another theory was covering an illness like strangles at the stud as another horse died before then TT stolen then another horse was ill - this is only a theory again an accident was another ...

Thing is if it's a vendetta then surely they're making a rod for their own back, if it is then they know TT and in that case they know how high maintenance a pony like him would be with medication etc. It would hurt them just as much to lose any of the others surely. Especially the most valuable ones, and much less work for them.

Not sure about that Emma, I imagine that josh is the most important thing in their lives? So they get to his parents by hurting Josh!
 
This makes me feel quite sick. I know the family in passing, anybody who goes to the bigger native shows will have seen them as a family and the rest of their stock is very lovely but a lot more distinctive than a small grey pony.
I was talking to someone who is a traveller about it, although there is no adverts in our village but we several Facebook groups that cover our area so anyone who knew about horses and was likely to know about it in the first 48hrs or so.
One small grey pony is very much like another, I've had two so I know and would think the most distinctive thing about him to the general public would have been his rug. My pet theory for what its worth was he was a cheap Christmas present for someone and hopefully he is covered in mud in someone's field.
The rivers and drains around here have been full since before Christmas, it is possible and not uncommon for them to fall in but they are usually found. There is a down loadable sheet on the find Tic Toc page, I just hope all this nastiness ends soon.
 
My take on it that in the initial aftermath of TT's disappearance the owners made some statements that were subsequently changed i.e the gate was padlocked...the gate wasn't padlocked....the padlock had been smashed/left open/picked...etc etc.

I can understand saying it was locked if it wasn't as you'd be embarrassed to admit the truth. Unfortunately, not being open and honest meant it gave conspiracy theorists something to pick at.

I can't bring myself to believe that this family would try to hoodwink thousands of people so I'm choosing to believe he escaped. I just can't see anyone stealing such an obviously elderly cushingoid pony. I think he'd have been dumped somewhere by now if he'd been stolen. Unfortunately, you don't win any friends on the TT FB page by suggesting he wasn't stolen!
 
There is a big advert at the back of my Horse & Rider magazine this month about him going missing and his safe return, which I'm guessing would have cost a lot of money to place.

Poor little guy, wouldn't he have turned up by now even if he had fallen into a river/ditch/ravine???
 
Hi Everyone, im Kate (not Cat), Tic Tocs owner. I have seen the horrible group that has been set up and i am so upset as to why someone would try and stop people looking for my pony. I have been to the police about it and they are keeping a eye on the page, sadly facebook wont take it down 'yet'. I havent commented on there as im following instructions by the police, i must not join or comment. But i can answer a few questions on here. Firstly, there is a poster in out local tack shops and shops. I have not posted posters all over lamp posts as i really dont want Josh seeing this wherever he goes. Hence the big internet campaign. Josh now knows Tic Toc is missing but to a five year old boy i dont want to keep reminding him of this every minute of everyday. Our immediate neighbours are fully aware tic tocs missing as it most of the village and UK. The report has been on ITV news, the daily mail and in many horse magazines and papers. I pushed this as i want him home. Tic Toc is not a escape artist, he never escaped once with us, his field freind the mini shetland however is and remained in his field that night with his fell pony freind. We have never ruled out a escape however, you cant leave any stone unturned, we have had many mini searches and two large organised searches of the local area, rivers, ditches, woods, old buildings etc. The padlock to a unused gate on the property was unlocked, this gate is never used by us and this was stated from day one, nothing has changed re the gate. After i received threats this week i had to hand all sightings over to the police, a sad thing to have to do but they are now visiting each one for me and reporting back. They are being very thorough and yesterday went to one in bedford and checked passport against pony and checked with the issuing society date of issue. Ive also heard its been said on their i have a harassment order against me which is untrue, that we have strangles which is untrue, that myself and my uncle shot him again untrue, if i needed him pts for any reason then i would have done it and not pushed the publicity, and the pony illnesses. I have 20 ponies and we breed, i have not lost a horse for years. My stallion chief is the sick horse in question and has been under vet care for the past four years since he was kicked in the stifle from a visiting mare, nothing suspicious, sad but hes doing well. The mare we lost last year sadly died in the fied, heart attack, she was my best mare and a present to me from a dear freind as she was closely related to my foundation stallion. Not a pony i would certainly let go without a fight. Kate x
 
One last thing, it was also stated that the case is closed, this is very much not the case. The police will not disclose any information to anyone regarding the case other than myself due to data protection laws x
 
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Hi Kate - thank you for taking the time to post. I know a lot of people on here have been saddened and worried by Tic Toc's story. It's a sad shame that the media can, while being incredibly useful in spreading a story, also inflate and inflame. I don't know enough about it to comment in depth, but I hope you get your pony back. I have a little boy and hate to think of the effect it must have. Good luck in the search. x
 
thank you Abacus, he is a very much loved member of the family, i just want him home one way or another, sadly im starting to feel this may never happen
 
Just wanted to say, I have followed your appeal from the start, and can only imagine the heartbreak for you and your son, thank you for taking the time to explain what is happening. The trouble with publicity is it can be positive and negative.

I am not on your area, but hope you continue to get support, and find out what has happened.
 
I have also been following your appeal and hope that he is found safe and well. I think because of the publicity around his disappearance people start confusing the facts, getting people and other horses mixed up so that you are getting confused stories that once start being passed around get even more further from the truth. At least you have been able to come on here and set a few facts straight, unfortunately there are some real malicious people out there and funnily enough Facebook seems to be there choice to cause people hurt. Good luck in your find for tic toc and hopefully some answers for you and your family.
 
hi there Kate. Another who as followed from start and kept sharing the posts on FB.I really sincerely hope you get news re tic toc. Also i will continue to support anyway i can in your search for news.My heart goes out to your little boy. Hugs to all concerned x
 
Hi Kate. Im so sorry to have to read this. I'm not really one for FB so haven't followed the events on there but have been fully aware of Tic Toc's disappearance.
My heart goes out to you and your family. The truth will always come out in the end so stay strong and we all hope for a happy ending with Tic Toc safely returned xxx
 
I really hope you find out what's happened to the little man one way or another, it's the not knowing that is the worst thing. I can't begin to imaging the constant worry and stress this would be causing you and your family. xx
 
I hate this '....get to the truth, some things don't add up' mentality. No-one is privy to anyone else's business and it's a damn shame you feel you need to explain yourself. I joined to see what was being said and had to open my mouth and comment about it becoming a witch hunt, as it really irked me when someone dragged something up about land registry.... WTF??

So I left.

I wish you all the luck in the world and hope you get some answers soon, for all your sakes. XXX
 
Abacus said:
Hi Kate - thank you for taking the time to post. I know a lot of people on here have been saddened and worried by Tic Toc's story. It's a sad shame that the media can, while being incredibly useful in spreading a story, also inflate and inflame. I don't know enough about it to comment in depth, but I hope you get your pony back. I have a little boy and hate to think of the effect it must have. Good luck in the search. x
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This. I think its absolutely ridiculous that someone has even suggested you shot him, why would you shoot a pony then do a big campaign about him missing? Dont really see what anyone would gain from that. I really hope you find Tic Toc. x
 
I find it so so sad Kate that you have had to come on here and post as you have. It is the last thing you should be having to do but I fully understand your need to do it.

I will always support people asking questions, but these kind of "truth" campaigns are nothing short of cruel and serve no helpful purpose IMO.

Kate, I continue to pray that you will one day know what happened to Tic Toc and that he can come home to you and until then, you have my empathy and support. xx
 
I'm not on FB but am too aware of your pony's disappearance. I sincerely hope he is found. I have a 6yo son who would be devasted at the loss of his pony. We actually lost our homebred foal due to suspected acorn poisioning last year and the hardest part of it all was telling him and his reaction. All our best wishes for his safe return. X
 
I hate this '....get to the truth, some things don't add up' mentality. No-one is privy to anyone else's business and it's a damn shame you feel you need to explain yourself. I joined to see what was being said and had to open my mouth and comment about it becoming a witch hunt, as it really irked me when someone dragged something up about land registry.... WTF??

So I left.

So why the hell did you start the thread in the first place ?....You were all settled with popcorn before Kate came along and rumbled you !
 
Alan's mum said:
I hate this '....get to the truth, some things don't add up' mentality. No-one is privy to anyone else's business and it's a damn shame you feel you need to explain yourself. I joined to see what was being said and had to open my mouth and comment about it becoming a witch hunt, as it really irked me when someone dragged something up about land registry.... WTF??

So I left.

So why the hell did you start the thread in the first place ?....You were all settled with popcorn before Kate came along and rumbled you !
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I think she was incredulous at the ridiculousness of the types of people that start a page such as the one on facebook. Her first post wasn't agreeing with the facebook page, in fact quite the opposite.
And if you re-read the post that you quoted you will see that she commented on the page to say it had turned into a witch hunt i.e that she disagreed with the things being said/way the page was being conducted and therefore left in disgust.
Anyway DS doesn't need me to defend her I'm sure but thought I'd point out that you'd unecessarily jumped on someone.

FWIW I really hope Tic Tock can be found soon and re-united with his little boy.
 
Alan's mum said:
I hate this '....get to the truth, some things don't add up' mentality. No-one is privy to anyone else's business and it's a damn shame you feel you need to explain yourself. I joined to see what was being said and had to open my mouth and comment about it becoming a witch hunt, as it really irked me when someone dragged something up about land registry.... WTF??


So I left.

So why the hell did you start the thread in the first place ?....You were all settled with popcorn before Kate came along and rumbled you !
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Love it when new people join and start defending stuff!

I joined to see what was going on, I believe that's allowed and I also made my point then left.

Kate rumbled me? Dunno Kate I'm afraid....
 
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