TIEBACK AND HOBDAY

Yes, no problems, I had one of mine done. Watch the horse eat and make sure he doesn't snort food back down his nose. Check with the owners that he doesn't have to have all his food from the floor and can eat from a haynet. Apart from that, you can expect a couple of snorts when he starts work, though many of them don't even do that, and a slightly higher risk of catching respiratory tract infections (mine got 2 that needed antibiotics in 5 years - neither of my others in the same field with him got either one) and bear in mind his lungs/wind will be uninsurable.
 
The good part about it is that in big horses in particular the larynx can get paralysed at any time, and if he already has a tie-back you will never need to worry about that happening.
 
One of mine has a partial tie back he's no problem , good dust free management and never give it a thought.
So yes I would get another who had had a tie back.
 
zimsweeney
thankyou all for your replies re hobday and tieback my 17 2 hh 4 yo is about to have the surgery i feel a bit better !! can anyone tell me what is a partial tieback ? just one side of the laranx ? is this unusual ? with mine the vet says they will amputate the bad side and tie the otherside and hobday,. will this leave the throat too open for inhaling food ?
 
The only thing you'd notice about mine (who had a tieback before I got him) is that when he winnys he sounds like he's being strangled! I don't manage him any differently and never had any problems. The odd sounding whinny is actually useful at shows as I can hear it's him a mile off if he's making a fuss in the trailer!
 
zimsweeney said:
zimsweeney
thankyou all for your replies re hobday and tieback my 17 2 hh 4 yo is about to have the surgery i feel a bit better !! can anyone tell me what is a partial tieback ? just one side of the laranx ? is this unusual ? with mine the vet says they will amputate the bad side and tie the otherside and hobday,. will this leave the throat too open for inhaling food ?
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Yours is a very bad case. Most cases are left side paralysis only, because the nerve that controls that side is so long (it loops from the brain, down around the heart and back up :eek: !) that it is easily damaged. It is unusual to have to do both sides, and also unusual to amputate.

I would guess that you will certainly have a far greater risk of breathing in food than a "normal" one-sided tie back does, and if he was mine I'd be looking to feed damp and only from ground level. I'd still have it done though, it changes them completely. It can even make it a lot easier to keep weight on them. My vet reckons its to do with how stressful it is for them to know that they can't get enough oxygen to run away from danger.
 
The late Henesy had a full tie back op
He lost the use of his vocal chords so couldn't neigh at all - that is common with a full tie back.
He was fine with eating - just fed damp from the floor.
Exercise wise he was perfect - I wouldn't hesitate to buy a horse that has had this done.
 
My friends tb has had both sides either tied back or hobdayed - we don't know which as was bot declared and only found when we discovered he can't whinny. That's the only different thing about him. He is fed from the floor with normal management but pretty dust free and have had no problems at all with him
 
Certainly on my friends horse there is no outward sign if any treatment having been done. He wasn't vetted and the first thing noticed was he didn't make any noise then we saw him trying to whinny and all that comes out is a little hoarse cough sound so he has no vocal cords at all. There's no point scoping to see as he's really well and has no negative side effects other than the lose of his voice
 
mynutmeg said:
Certainly on my friends horse there is no outward sign if any treatment having been done. He wasn't vetted and the first thing noticed was he didn't make any noise then we saw him trying to whinny and all that comes out is a little hoarse cough sound so he has no vocal cords at all. There's no point scoping to see as he's really well and has no negative side effects other than the lose of his voice
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Is he insured though?? Im thinking about what would happen should he have summat wrong with lungs or throat and when investigated it was found he was done but you hadnt delcared it.......

Im a WHAT IF kinda person lol ;) :)
 
My boy had tie back and hobday surgery just 2 weeks ago. Apart from him suffering 'cabin fever' from being boxed he has healed very well and seems to be quite happy and doing well. He can neigh, however he sounds like he has a sore throat so is a little hoarse (horse) pardon the pun but he no longer breathes like an asthmatic in distress and is far more alert and bright within himself.
The nasal discharge he had pre surgery has more or less cleared up and apart from having to change his bedding to dust free (Bed Max) and fedding his hay from the floor otherwise his routine has remained unchanged.
My last late horse (TB) had the tie back before I bought him but due to problems with the stitches being too tight and causing infections (and as a result he was reluctant to feed and graze and hence very underweight as we discovered feeding caused him pain and problems) caused by his epiglottis being in the wrong position which meant the feed was being caught in his nasal passages and fermenting and thereby causing all sorts of problems. My vet reversed the op. by removing the stitches and hence making my horse a roarer again but it allowed him to be able to eat and gain weight without any decrease in his performance. He did cough a little and would roar when tired but he gained about 200kg quickly and then lived another 12 happy and healthy years before he was PTS due to cancer.
My only concern post op. with my current neddy is that my once docile horse will now be full of himself as he will have more air and hence more energy as previous to his operarion he was very quiet and quite lazy, which we now realize was in part due to the fact he struggled to get enough air into his lungs.
I'm hoping that although he will have 'more air' that he won't become an uncontrollable lunatic with energy to burn.
Only time will tell. :confused:
 
Thankyou all for positive replies i did read the vets email wrong (i am abroad ) the paralysed side is tied back and the vocal cord is amutated thats why they cant niegh, as he is a 4 yo giant i hope he can manage his newfound enery with out too much problem !!
 
No I wouldn't, someone on my yard had a horse who got a 2nd tie back operation because the first left a lot of scar tissue, it didn't work and the poor lad ended up knackered if he was ridden because he couldn't get enough oxygen in. The vets recommended not to ride him for anything other than very quiet hacking.
 
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