Do you accept livery horses with vices onto your yard? If so which ones? Also what would you do if a horse started a vice whilst stabled on your yard- would you boot them off?
I don't have cribbers - cost too much to keep repairing the fences and stables, weaving is Ok if they are kept out as much as possible and not stabled 24/7 and I would insist on anti weave grills. Will accept box walking - but not on part or full unless the owner agrees to fund the expense in bedding. If a horse started a vice while on my stable yard I would not kick it off the yard - I would kick it out of it's stable and turn it out 24/7. Very few horses develop stable vices if they are not over stabled and over fed.
Yes I would, and have, booted horses off my yards when I have been lied to about certain horses who have arrived with obvious vices. Crib biters, windsuckers and highly aggressive horses can't live on my farm I'm afraid.
They find somewhere else who doesn't care so much about their property or doesn't care how much other peoples horses cost them in repairs/ refencing/vet bills, I guess.
Yes I would accept them. Any liveries I have ever had, or would have are competition horses, several of them wind suck. I dont give a flying fig about it. Before anyone starts with the old argument of "Oh thats because competition horses are stabled too much" I completely disagree. Mine can, & do go out for as little or as long as suits that particular horse. All my fences are post & rail with electric round the top so cribbing has not been a problem, they have never chewed lower rails. Also (touch wood) I have never had a colic in over 15 years. (that was with a pony that did not have a 'vice') I have also kept a wind sucker next to one that hasnt had a habit. It is not contagious.
In my yard, horses do a job & providing they do their job I dont give a monkeys what they do in their own time. I would rather have a horse that does it's job well, & sucks for England than a nappy, bad mannered, bolshy horse any day of the week.
Sorry for the rant, I just hate this politically correct attitude. All the horses I have ever had with a 'habit' has arrived with it. It did not start on my yard. (yes, I actually buy them knowing about it) Furthermore I have never knocked the price because of it!
They are just habits like having a cigarette.
OMG I suppose I will be in trouble again now.
No Freshman I completely agree with you! The only annoying thing is when they crib on the new wooden gates, but I have learned to my cost if you don't wire them with tape first that's what happens.
Weaving isn't catchable in my experience, windsucking irritates me but I would ignore it.
The retired ones live out 24/7 with barn access and some can be seen cribbing on tree branches, but generally they seem to lose the urge once outside.
I wouldn't turn a livery away with a vice unless it was kicking other horses, I won't accept that now, the last time I did someone a favour taking their horse in a hurry, it cost me £461 in vet's fees for our own horse it kicked.. and no apology or offer to contribute either. I learned my lesson, even if someone is desperate if their horse is likely to kick turn it away, or have individual paddocks which we don't have. Any other vice doesn't worry me at all.