To hog or not to hog?

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Breagha

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I have been told by a few people that I should hog my horse. Not I personally dont think she is heavy enough to pull it off. I love the look of her plaited but not keen on the plaiting lol.

what do you think?

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She doesn't really have enough bone to show as a cob but to my mind is not a hunter type so I would turn her out as a native with a loose but tidy mane which solves the plaiting issue. How big is she?
 
I think she would suit being hogged but it really depends on her bone and height . If she's too small /fine then I would keep her plaited.
 
ElliePippa said:
How big is she?
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Hi, She is 15hh and 5 years old.

FfionWinnie said:
Are her legs clipped or is that them in their natural state?
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Her legs are clipped. She has some feather but not enough for a traditional at all.

be positive said:
She doesn't really have enough bone to show as a cob but to my mind is not a hunter type so I would turn her out as a native with a loose but tidy mane which solves the plaiting issue. How big is she?
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I had her turned out as a native when she was a 2 year old for showing but people up here don't "get" the native types. Shes 15hh and 5 years old.

holeymoley said:
I think she would suit being hogged but it really depends on her bone and height . If she's too small /fine then I would keep her plaited.
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She is 15hh, never really measured the bone. Where's the best place to measure?
I love the look of her plaited but its when you have been at work all day and have to get her ready for the next day, you wonder what the hell you are doing. We have only been doing local shows up until this year but really want to try something a bit bigger next year when she is 6.
 
be positive said:
She doesn't really have enough bone to show as a cob but to my mind is not a hunter type so I would turn her out as a native with a loose but tidy mane which solves the plaiting issue. How big is she?
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This. Shes a native type not a hogged cob, but she'd need the feather growing back to do that.
 
If you do the next level of shows they should recognise her as a native type, she certainly doesn't have the bone to be a lightweight show cob and will look tiny against the true show cobs, I would keep her mane fairly short and let some feather grow then reassess before next season it is easy enough to take the feathers off again but once hogged it will take 12 months to grow it back to anything that looks decent and sometimes they never grow back as they were.
 
this is a picture of her as a yearling. I left her natural when she was young as I wasnt doing much with her. This is how much feather she has.

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be positive said:
If you do the next level of shows they should recognise her as a native type, she certainly doesn't have the bone to be a lightweight show cob and will look tiny against the true show cobs, I would keep her mane fairly short and let some feather grow then reassess before next season it is easy enough to take the feathers off again but once hogged it will take 12 months to grow it back to anything that looks decent and sometimes they never grow back as they were.
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I don't tend to show her in cob classes due to her being in the middle so to speak. She tends to go in height classes and coloured classes.

It would take a while for her mane to sit properly as at the moment it points forward. I didn't like the native look on her but it was a lot easier for getting ready.

FfionWinnie said:
I think you're stuck plaiting if you want to show her, sorry!
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I think you might be right. lol.
 
Breagha said:
I don't tend to show her in cob classes due to her being in the middle so to speak. She tends to go in height classes and coloured classes.

It would take a while for her mane to sit properly as at the moment it points forward. I didn't like the native look on her but it was a lot easier for getting ready.



I think you might be right. lol.
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Coloured classes are judged on type, she should be shown as a trad/ cob/ native or if plaited should be presented as a hunter/ RH/ hack or the equivalent pony, she is the height to be a hunter pony or show cob but is not a hunter pony or show cob type but could fit as a native as that is less restrictive in type as long as they are vaguely representative of a native breed they can get away with it.
 
I'd keep her native. She's not got enough bone to be a cob. And looks too ponyish... she's also not really a hunter pony stamp to keep plaited. She looks lovely with hair however but I'd shorten the mane to just a little longer than plaitable length :)
 
The picture with her mane long is when she was a yearling. I have shown her as native before but its not well reseptive up here. I cannot find a picture for the life of me with her as a native.
 
I've never shown her as a cob for the reason that she looks too sporty rather than cobby. I wouldnt go down the native route with her unless I went to a higher level of showing as I don't like her turned out as native and prefer her being trimmed up. If I was to become serious into showing and head to bigger shows, then I would most likely do whatever was suited at the time.

That being said, I have never been told that she needed to be native by any of the judges she has stood under.

Thanks for everyones comments.
 
I think part of her trouble is likely that she has native legs, but given their propensity to be high % welsh D crosses she doesn't really have a native type head, that is more cobby. (I remember her from the baby pic!)

I think she is probably just one of those inbetweenies that for showing doesn't really have a true type. she certainly has the neck to be hogged, just lacking in the leg department.

I think I would carry on turning out as you are and just enjoy her regardless :D
 
Well her mum I think was some form of welsh cross and her dad was a cob type x clyde.

That is exactly what I was thinking about her ester, I didnt think her legs were up to the task of her being hogged. I won't know properly how people will take her until I get her to a few more shows next year, missed a few as she had a false positive strangles test and that took us away from a few of the bigger shows.

I will enjoy her but people keep saying hog her but I wasnt too keen. I love her plaited but plaiting is a chore sometimes.

Her legs probably look skinnier as I only clipped them 2 days before that show.
 
My boy is similarish in shape to yours and I made the decision to hog. He is an all rounder and I only show at unaff local level due to him not really being a type. We have done much better this year than we did last year when he was plaited but i know he would be dwarfed in the lw cob classes at county level as he doesn't have the height or bone but as I don't have county level ambitions and I prefer him hogged then a show cob he will be! Here's a photo if it helps.. he is just shy of 9in bone below the knee but he doesn't look like he has that much!

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emfen1305 said:
My boy is similarish in shape to yours and I made the decision to hog. He is an all rounder and I only show at unaff local level due to him not really being a type. We have done much better this year than we did last year when he was plaited but i know he would be dwarfed in the lw cob classes at county level as he doesn't have the height or bone but as I don't have county level ambitions and I prefer him hogged then a show cob he will be! Here's a photo if it helps.. he is just shy of 9in bone below the knee but he doesn't look like he has that much!

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thank you for that. Your boy is lovely. Very unusual colouring.
 
Breagha said:
thank you for that. Your boy is lovely. Very unusual colouring.
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yes he does get complimented wherever we go, just a shame we don't fit into a category really, i'd love to take him to some bigger shows!

fwiw, i know someone who shows a little (v.small fine 14hh sporty type) hogged in the coloured classes and she has gone to all of the big shows (HOYS, RIHS etc) and done well with it despite it definitely being more shp than cob. Yours definitely looks chunkier than hers but i suppose it's whether you like that look or not!
 
To measure the bone you measure the width just under the knee . I can't remember off hand what goes with what height for showing as a cob, I'm sure it will be somewhere if you google for it :)
 
holeymoley said:
To measure the bone you measure the width just under the knee . I can't remember off hand what goes with what height for showing as a cob, I'm sure it will be somewhere if you google for it :)
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To be pedantic, not the width, but the diameter of the leg.

Height and bone are not connected. Show cobs are up to 155cm (from memory) and then divided into lightweight and heavyweight by amount of bone. It's not an exact amount, but an*average*heavyweight will have around 10".

I wouldn't hog, OP as you don't have enough bone to carry it off.
 
spacefaer said:
To be pedantic, not the width, but the diameter of the leg.

Height and bone are not connected. Show cobs are up to 155cm (from memory) and then divided into lightweight and heavyweight by amount of bone. It's not an exact amount, but an*average*heavyweight will have around 10".

I wouldn't hog, OP as you don't have enough bone to carry it off.
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Sorry to be even more pedantic but it is not the diameter of the leg but the circumference of the bone just below the knee, a true lightweight will have about 9inches although they may have a little less, they should be able to carry 14 stone comfortably
 
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