Too radical a trim?

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My old guy had the farrier the other day (Thursday) and I think the farrier has perhaps done too radical a trim job on him :(

He was sound on all surfaces bar the sharpest stones before this and hadn't needed the farrier since Dec ( he self trims rather effectively but His deviations mean I need them trimmed trill by the farrier) due to him not needing anything other than a roll of the toes.

He is now very pottery, willing to walk out on grass and flat Tarmac Etc but anything slightly rough and he's very very footy. Been barefoot over three years now and this is the first time since the shoes have come off that he has been like this.

Diet and grazing hasn't changed, our grass hasn't really come through with the cold wet weather and the field was grazed all winter so slim picking, no chance of lami or LGL and on a barefoot fibre and oil diet. Not overweight either if anything he is a little on the light side and needing muscled but he is 24 now. Negative for PPID and EMs.

Farrier has trimmed him the last three times he has been done and he's never been pottery or even changed at all but even looking at the feet they look very small compared to what they were like when I left him in for the farrier.

Not sure how to proceed as not much the farrier can do for him now as he can't stick it back on :(

ETA - recent feet pics

http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?698111-Barefoot-opinions

Can take pics if required
 
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All you can do is wait for a bit until his feet grow again. I had a companion pony and had his feet trimmed by the farrier when my horse was shod (in the days when he was shod). Sometimes they overdid the trim on the pony and he was sore for a few days, but when his feet grew again he was OK. Took 3-5 days. I told them and they didn't take so much off the next time.
 
Does sound like it was a bit much in one go- Frank reacted a bit like when we just took his bars off (rest of trim was normal) he was ok after about 10 days (and then grew the bars back). For him he is much better if I run a rasp round every 2-3 weeks than going normal cycle lengths. I would tell your farrier he is footy so if he needs to take so much off next time he does it in a couple of visits rather than one (or just takes less off).
 
Thanks guys.

I don't want to anger him but he's lamed my pony essentially and I'm not happy about it. He's been trimming him for a year and this is the first time he has been sore after a trim.
 
i had this when one farrier let his apprentice do one of the horses, he took too much off of everything including the frog, i was really angry as he was doing really well barefoot and it set me back months, i would say something, i appreciate its difficult, they have a god like status sometimes and we need them to be happy, however it is still a service and he has not done a good job, just be diplomatic!! the only good thing is that hooves are at their maximum growth rate at the moment so hopefully he will come sound soon. xxx
 
Im sure he'd rather know - if he doesn't he's pants. It shouldn't be taken as personal criticism - just a now we know he can't cope with that much.
 
Shady said:
i had this when one farrier let his apprentice do one of the horses, he took too much off of everything including the frog, i was really angry as he was doing really well barefoot and it set me back months, i would say something, i appreciate its difficult, they have a god like status sometimes and we need them to be happy, however it is still a service and he has not done a good job, just be diplomatic!! the only good thing is that hooves are at their maximum growth rate at the moment so hopefully he will come sound soon. xxx
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I had the same experience as Shady - apprentice/colleague (not sure which - I wasn't there) overtrimmed one of ours and made her really sore. I changed farriers, I was so angry.

Best move ever, now have a farrier who really understands barefoot .

OP hope yours is back to normal soon.
 
My ex farrier would insist on trimming soles, which had the same effect, poor horse was very ouchy over stony surfaces. Now I have a trimmer a couple of times a year to just check on progress and in between I tidy up excessive growth with a rasp. Horse is now comfortable over all surfaces and has grown good soles which he exfoliates for himself. Check his soles for signs of trimming and if you find they have been "tidied up" find another hoof care professional - IME a fair few farriers (not all, before every farrier in the country jumps on this) just think they know better than owner
 
I can't see anything in the trim (which looks really good) which automatically shouts out to me.

The soles, bars and frogs don't look to have been touched, so unless he has lost a lot of toe height, i.e. before he was walking round on a "shoe" of horn and now the soles are in contact with the ground, there isn't anything immediately obviously wrong.

To be on the safe side, I'd treat as laminitic and monitor closely over the next few days.
 
I would treat as laminitic and for thrush, it does not look like the farrier has taken much off at all and just because the horse has never had lami it does not mean it never will, the frog does look thrushy too
 
It was probably just a little bit too much off. So just kindly mention it to the Farrier, so that in future they can adjust the trim to suit the horse. :)
 
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