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Don't shoot me but.......doesn't Imperial Cavalier get tad hot in the dressage... greenwich will be some atmosphere cos the grandstands will be very close to arena....
But maybe Mary will be pathfinder so the will be less atmosphere if she is early on.
But I just wish the team the best of luck....and most defo wouldnt want Yogis job!!!
But for reserves Laura and Rayef cos if he goes then boy does he go well!!
 
I feel sorry for Tina reading this thread! She wasn't that bad yesterday. MF flew round the parts of the course that I saw him at (and I could see a lot from where I was standing) and he wasn't the only horse to have a lot of fences down - the average was three fences down in the last 20 I reckon... Also they are taking into account that he coped best in Hong Kong on another twisty track...

All of them are worthy team members. To hope that someone loses their place is mean. I do feel sorry for Nicola and would have like to see her in the team, but there were several amazing riders longlisted.

It is a shame that we can't have a B team as host nation!
 
Thinking about it Miners' dressage is significantly better than OB and if we want to beat the likes of the Germans in the first phase we really need a strong strong dressage. However Buzz definitely improving and their Bramham result was good. Also as mentioned above he may not be suited to the twisty track but since when has Nicola ever not been able to ride him effectively even in the worst suited of tracks? He hasn't had an XC penalty since 2006 and only 3 in his entire record! I think the decision was probably due to his dressage over the suiting of the track.

Like someone said on twitter... just wish we could have a team of 6!
 
meardsall_millie said:
Sorry Kat but this horse is the current Olympic Bronze medallist and a former European Champion - how can you say he doesn't produce the goods at championship level??! :eek:

Whilst I don't disagree with some of the comments, arguably MF is more consistent in the dressage and SJ than OB, and as some others have said, Greenwich may not suit Buzz.

MF has run in 3 x 3*s this year, all with dressage in the 40's, 2 double clears, then 3 down in very heavy/sticky going at Bramham, Greenwich is on a surface.

As gutted as I am for Nicola following her excellent recent team performances, I'm not sure the selectors have lost their marbles if I'm honest.....[/QUOT

Just what I was thinking:)
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wewillshowthem said:
, Park and Lion all sound, I would have thought Park would be used though...
I don't think Bay is qualified, unless Bramham was a qualifier....I could be wrong though!!!
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What about Neuf Des Coeurs? surely he's qualified as he completed Burghley last year, and presumably sound since he just won Bramham!
 
alesea said:
Ah, but it's not High Kingdom's results that everyone is wondering about, it's Miners Frolic's.
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Thanks for the update, a lot to get through!!!! Think his indiv olympic bronze and european indiv gold was the decider for that one!
 
wewillshowthem said:
I don't think Bay is qualified, unless Bramham was a qualifier....I could be wrong though!!!
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Bay My Hero won Tattersalls CCI3* the other week - didn't go to Bramham - not sure how you qualify for the olympics (never really been something I've needed to know, what with my level of competing :p) but would imagine that was enough?
 
meardsall_millie said:
Whilst I don't disagree with some of the comments, arguably MF is more consistent in the dressage and SJ than OB, and as some others have said, Greenwich may not suit Buzz.
MF has run in 3 x 3*s this year, all with dressage in the 40's, 2 double clears, then 3 down in very heavy/sticky going at Bramham, Greenwich is on a surface.
As gutted as I am for Nicola following her excellent recent team performances, I'm not sure the selectors have lost their marbles if I'm honest.....
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Kiribati_uk said:
Don't shoot me but.......doesn't Imperial Cavalier get tad hot in the dressage... greenwich will be some atmosphere cos the grandstands will be very close to arena....
But maybe Mary will be pathfinder so the will be less atmosphere if she is early on.
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hcm88 said:
Thinking about it Miners' dressage is significantly better than OB and if we want to beat the likes of the Germans in the first phase we really need a strong strong dressage. However Buzz definitely improving and their Bramham result was good. He hasn't had an XC penalty since 2006 and only 3 in his entire record! I think the decision was probably due to his dressage over the suiting of the track.
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all this.. MK will probs be pathfinder.. she did a great job of going last with equal pressure at WEG .. IC gets soo het up on an atmousphere though…

Miners Frolic is class .. we need really decent dressage as germans will pull out all the stops.and he can SJ well on surface - i dont think anyone can comment on bramham.. due to the ground and conditions.. poles were going here there and everywhere

such a shame for nicola but yes.. selectors are probably thinking of course rather than horses form.. i love buzz so much though!
 
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Mary wanted Imp Cav rather than King's Temptress as she said even though he is less consistent he is better when he is good.. Also because it will be his last time.
 
I don't really think LC and Rayef stood a chance of being picked when you look at the large choice of who the selectors had anyway to choose from. PF and Jakata surprise me because many time PF has struggled to hold J so surely he wouldn't suit a tight, twisty course as I would imagine she'll really have to ride with the handbrake on to contain him?
 
TiddlyPups said:
PF and Jakata surprise me because many time PF has struggled to hold J so surely he wouldn't suit a tight, twisty course as I would imagine she'll really have to ride with the handbrake on to contain him?
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But she did win at Houghton on him - that's also a pretty twisty track, and she commented that she found him much more rideable there :)
 
Same as everyone else when OH read the tweet out to me, "Where's Buzz?" But, having thought about it, maybe he was never really in the frame. Maybe the selectors have always thought that the Greenwich track will be too tight and twisty for such a fierce XC machine, remember what happened to Pippa and Primores Pride in Athens. The course didn't challenge him, he showed the fences no respect. Pippa had to slow him down and set him up for every fence and picked up costly time penalties. The selectors were blamed for sending the wrong horse the the type of track, they maybe don't want to make the same mistake.
Don't get me wrong, i'm gutted for NW and Buzz, I think they deserved the place but in reality Zara and Tina are likely to get better dressage scores to help us stick with the Germans early on.
I was at Bramham on Sat and saw Miners Frolic in the SJ warm up, I was stunned at how beautiful he is, he stood out a mile in very strong company- Lenamore and Nereo to name just 2!!
 
Why Zara?? Pure publicity IMO. She hasn't won anything for years has she or come close. Very dissapointed. I'm definatley not anti Zara, quite like her but there are people on better form with better horses at the moment :(
 
I dunno - if you look at High Kingdom's results compared to Miner's Frolic - there isn't much in them to be honest.

I just hope we're all eating our words come July 31st :)
 
CalllyH said:
Why Zara?? Pure publicity IMO. She hasn't won anything for years has she or come close. Very dissapointed. I'm definatley not anti Zara, quite like her but there are people on better form with better horses at the moment :(
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I think she totally deserves it, she has worked so hard with High Kingdom and he has produced some good results lately . Plus Yogi may think he is suited for Greenwich. I think they are a good combo
 
Honey08 said:
Mary wanted Imp Cav rather than King's Temptress as she said even though he is less consistent he is better when he is good.. Also because it will be his last time.
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And I should imagine this is exactly why MF has been chosen over OB! Agree it's a shame for Nicola but someone (or two or three) were always going to be disappointed - we all know that feeling, that's competing for you!

I'm rooting for Francis to get a reserve spot, he is one class act across country, Greenwich should suit his horse and it would be good to see him getting the sort of recognition that could see his owner power increase considerably for the future. WFP needs a successor after all ;)
 
Suziq77 said:
I'm rooting for Francis to get a reserve spot, he is one class act across country, Greenwich should suit his horse and it would be good to see him getting the sort of recognition that could see his owner power increase considerably for the future. WFP needs a successor after all ;)
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I like you thinking!!!:)
 
teapot said:
I dunno - if you look at High Kingdom's results compared to Miner's Frolic - there isn't much in them to be honest.

I just hope we're all eating our words come July 31st :)
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Erm, are we talking about the same two horses? Because last time I looked, HK (who, I agree, has excellent recent form) has only done 1 4*, and MF has won the Euros, bronze at last Olympics, etc etc... a lot more experience.

I can maybe understand the omission of OB a bit more now, if his controllability around a very twisty tight course might be a problem.

Wondering who on earth is going to be the pathfinder, though...
Totally agree about Francis, I think he and Sir P would be brilliant round that course.
 
I was talking more recent form, I know about past form but no-one knows what affect that illness had on Miner's Frolic do they... What I like is someone's pointed out on twitter Opposition Buzz has more BE points than most horses can throw a stick at too!

Time will tell I guess :)
 
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Miners Frolic was superb in Kentucky just very unlucky with crossing his tracks. They need horses who have superb dressage because if the German's build up a head of steam and Beijing proved they were untouchable as did last years Euros. Things do go wrong like WEG but I do not expect to see that type of crumbling round an Olympic course.

I think it looks an exciting team all of them are capable of massive performances on the day and they will need them to get even close to Michael Jung and Sandra Auffarth. Chris Burton is a master in the dressage as well for the Aussies.
 
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