Trailer info part deux

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OK So - thanks to you guys I now have more info on cost of ownership.

Next question. I've now weighed the 2 horses I will be transporting and between the two of them they are a smidgeon under 1000kg (about 980kg).
The Ifor Williams 510 weighs 1000kg and my car can pull 2000kg - is this cutting it a bit fine?

The IW 505 comes in at about 900kg, so would give a greater margin of error, but I would prefer the extra headroom that the 510 offers.

Too close for comfort? or the right side of legal?
 
Its fine saying it can tow it yes it prob can but you need the weight in the vehicle in case you need to stop quickly etc. I would not tow a trailer and horses with any car.
 
Legal but if I'm honest I'd change the car! 2000kg is a bit close for my liking - how much does their haynets, boots tack etc weigh & if they gain a few lbs over the spring / summer!

I'm towing an equitrek 1400kg, horse 1 450kg, horse 2 550kg (although only horse 2 occasionally) total 2400kg with Kia Sorento max 3000kg. Sometimes I think I'd like the other 500kg for complete peace of mind!!

I've found this website very helpful!

http://www.towinghorsetrailers.co.uk/towing_weights_law.htm
 
Although the trailer and two horses come in 20kg under the limit you need to also factor in yourself and any passengers,fuel,and haynets,water and anything else you carry.So you will be over the limit.And i dont think i would want to push my car right to the safety limit.
 
I agree with water & hay nets (if in the trailer) but I didn't think the contents (driver & passengers) of the car counted so long as it is within it's internal limits? I'd be interested to know if anyone agrees / disagrees?

I would say even my local Landrover dealer won't recommend the Freelander (2000kg) for people with 2 horses!
 
Isn't it a combined weight..I was told that if you are unlucky enough to get pulled by Vosa and taken to a weighbridge you will be asked to stay inside the vehicle for weighing.
 
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People and things in the vehicle have no outcome on the actual weight of the trailer and its load

If the vehicle is not overloaded, the trailer is not overloaded, the total of the two is not above a GTW is one is given and any listed towing capacity is not exceeded then all is good to go
 
Ah, your getting confused with the max Braked Towing Weight (which is what being asked about here) and the gross combination weight rating (GCWR).

You have to stay in the car because your car has a gross weight too.

If they factored in the weight of the 4x4... lets say Landrover Discovery 2,583kg unladen... then by your calculations it could only tow 917kg which isn't true... it has a braked capacity of 3500kg.

The website I linked covers the law in loads of detail!
 
To the OP

I would ask around and see if there is a trailer the size of a 510 but has a lower unladen weight than the 505

That might need to be a different trailer manufacturer
 
As previous post. I have a Wessex Clubman that weighs 820kg. If I then tow 1000Kg of horses, I come in comfortably under the towing capacity of my Jeep Cherokee Sport at 2250Kg. ( I mostly tow only one horse). The Clubman takes horses up to 16h2".
Look at some other trailers....
 
Thanks all. I guess I need to look at the 505 instead then :-(

The car is a Skoda Yeti 4 x 4 - rated to 2000kg and has enough torque to cope, but I was worried about being so close to the maximum limit. I haven't had the horses on a weigh bridge - just the weight tape, and they could just as easily be over the max as under, so I think I'd rather not take the risk.
 
The 505 is quite a lot smaller - will the horses fit?! There are lots of lighter brands.... Bateson Ascot (their bigger model takes up to 17hh) is only 820kg!
 
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