trakhner horses???

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i am going to look at the above breed 16.2 gelding he sounds perfect i.e really laid back will hack alone or in company bomb proof, but just wondered if any one on here has one and what sort of temperments do they tend to have
 
Tend to be very sharp in my experience and most seem to take as much work as you can throw at them - the one I had on loan was an absolute git - spoilt from foalhood but owners who treated him like a child then wanted someone to loan him to school on so they could sell him for what they paid for him!

My previous dressage trainer insists they are professionals horses due to the amount of work they need to keep them quiet but I know of the odd one who isn't sharp (know more that are sharp though)
 
Im afraid that my trainer also put me off buying one saying that they were pro's horses, however as with everything there are sure to be exceptions.
 
I have never known a full pure one, I have know a couple of x, I was once told they are pretty much the German equivalent of our TB? One I knew was like a typical TB and the other was a lovely laid back boy. They were both TB x both very talented horses! I also looked at young mare who was very sweet with a lovely nature. I guess that's not much help but a starting point!
 
I own a pure bred and a part bred trakehner, admittedly they are both rising 3 so as of yet i cant give you my opinion of them under saddle. I would say they are not for novices and tend to be very intelligent and forward thinking. My pure bred has a tendency to be a bit sharp at times but on the whole is a joy to own and moves beautifully. My part bred is far sharper but then she is crossed with an arab so that may be the reason for that!! They are said to be the thoroughbred of warmbloods. I think certain lines are sharper than others, what is the breeding of the gelding you're looking at?? I do believe though that a lot of it is down to how the animal is brought up in the first place and like the others have said essentially they are a performance horse. If you need anymore info/ pics then dont hesitate to get in touch.
 
I've got a trakehner x tb.....although how much of him comes from the Trak side, I'm unsure!
As a rule, they're very intelligent, and need lots of work and stimulation to keep them occupied and out of trouble. Stable vices are very common in Traks, one reason being that they're easily bored!

They can be very sharp, and very talented....they're very much allrounders and trakehner blood can be found at top level dressage, SJ, eventing and driving.
 
i know a trakhner and its just wonderful, great temprament, strong fast bold and safe. not sure if thats the rule always tho!
 
I own a full Trakehner that came over from germany last June. He is a very green 5 yr old that conformation wise looks like a tb build, but moves like a warmblood. As far as his temperment goes he is definitely very intelligent and sharp and has to be ridden 6 days a week or he gets bored. He comes across as very chilled and laid back 95% of the time and is an angel in stable/field/hacking etc. So far not once bucked reared or bolted with me when riding - but it is still early days!
BUT if he does get stressed (dentist/vet/not worked enough/pushed too hard) he does get very stroppy and can be unpredictable, so that side of him is more tb-like. I have found that a very strict routine tends to keep that side of him under control. It is a balancing act with him!
Overall I would say definitely try out that gelding because I think they are a lovely breed. I bought one not knowing much about these horses at all so my main bit of advice would be to make sure you can cope with what could be a sharp horse. I love mine to absolute pieces and think he is going to make a great competition horse I will hopefully keep for life.
 
thanks yes will definatley look at him and looking to do hacking and show jumping with him apparently he is a amazing show jumper, but temperment is most important to me want something that isn't going to bomb off with me buck and rear lol
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Will basically echo what others have said.... they tend to be quite high maintenance in my experience.

My old dressage trainer in the UK point blank refused to ride them or have them on schooling livery for that reason.

We hosted the trak gradings in summer and there were some pretty horses but good god we've never had as many stressy horses on the yard before
 
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i know a trakhner and its just wonderful, great temprament, strong fast bold and safe. not sure if thats the rule always tho!

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I too knew one as is described above!!Like any breed i should imagine,depends on their upbringing!!TB's can be the same but i know more good than bad,all to do with how they have been treated!!
 
QR. have looked after 2 from same stud. completely different in temperament on the ground (one is stressy and quite thick but affectionate the other is not stressy etc etc) but both quite sharp under saddle and talented! I like them-better than alot of WBs
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Well that is about the most stupid thing I have heard, I breed Trakehners and not a single one I own has a stable vice of any sort.

I am sorry but saying all Trakehners are sharp and professionals rides is like saying all chestnut mares are crazy - and yet how many times do you read a thread on here where owners of chestnut mares post saying its a stupid old wives tale. Yes there are some lines (as there are in plenty of other breeds) that are sharp and not suited to the average amateur. But many other lines are well known for their ridability and trainability.
Trakehners are bright and so dont take to harsh handling but that intelligence is also a fabulous asset and they are athletic, loyal sporthorses. The more I learn about this breed and the more Trakehners I own, the more I adore them. I have always been a Thoroughbred person and a Trakehner has the best bits of the Thoroughbred with more movement, more athelticism.

If you want to PM me with this potential horses bloodlines I'll be happy to tell you more about them. And to those of you who have trainers who wont train Trakehners, I suggest you find a new trainer with more balls/experience.

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Volatis - I agree with your view re trainers - didn't say I agreed with mine!

Personally the one I had on loan has put me off to a degree but I wouldn't discount them if I was looking for another sportshorse.

Not sure I would advise one for a novice but then I wouldn't advise TB either - I'm aware there are always exceptions but traks and TB's 'tend' to be livlier than the cobby sort - it's horses for courses though

PS - you're relatively local to me - would love to see yours up close - do you compete locally at all and we'll pop along (thuogh I'm sure OH will fall in love and want one
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Miller - you're more than welcome to come and meet our gang. They are all living out so you'll need wellies! PM or email me if you want to come and see them, we're nearly always around.

Totally agree that TBs and Traks wouldnt be suitable for a novice rider, and more than a sensible old cob would be first choice for a serious show jumping mount, horses for courses as you say, I just hate seeing Trakehners as a breed dismissed by so many people who may not have ever had the joy of working with/owning one.
 
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Well that is about the most stupid thing I have heard, I breed Trakehners and not a single one I own has a stable vice of any sort.



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Gee thanks what a polite and diplomatic way to reply to a post
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The information came not from me but from a well known Trakehner breeder.....but as you appear to be the world's expert, I'm sure they must be wrong
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Just out of interest is it pronounced Tre CAIN er or TREKener? I have heard it both ways and always wondered which was correct?

I believe they are very similar to TBs in behaviour.
 
Hello, newbie here! Had to respond to this thread as Trakehners are my favorite breed having owned three over the years.

Firstly I pronounce it the first way you've suggested, horsegirl, as that's the way I've always heard it said.

Secondly, I have to agree with Volatis (not as in the Voltis in Lincolnshire by any chance?) with regards to their temperament. My current boy is 6 years old and although could be considered sharp, I feel is merely very intelligent and likes to be kept mentally stimulated. I've owned a number of breeds over the years (I have five horses in total now), but my Trakehners have, I feel, been the safest. They have all got themselves (and consequently, me) out of trouble many times when competing/hunting. Although I can't say any of mine have been bomb proof, they have all come back to hand very quickly and easily.

I think that building a close relationship with one of these horses pays dividends. Although one should always try to create a positive relationship with ones horses, with a Trakehner it seems to reap more rewards. And besides, they are the most beautiful of all breeds (*giggle*).

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I have a TB x Trakehener- she is one of the most easiest horse I have ever ridden. She is not sharp and is very trainable, anyone can ride her and look half decent!
She has spooked at the odd thing but no more than any other quality horse!
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I dont think you can stereotype a whole breed- the trakhener breed is hugely diverse so just go on the individual characteristic of this horse.
 
I have owned my mare (pictured in siggy) since she was a yearling. She is trak x KWPN and is very talented but ridiculously stubborn and can be unpredictable! I would compare her to somebody like Kate Moss, who is obviously very good at what she does but then goes and does something very silly and lets everyone down!!! I have had 7 years of tears and laughs and she has taught me an awful lot. She hasn't turned out the way i had hoped but in a way it doesn't matter, she is beautiful and i hope her new career as a broodmare is a success!!!
 
I absolutely love them but tried 4 when I was looking for Cat.
All were lovely 'people', very affectionate and enjoyed fuss but all too clever for me. The gelding is till being advertised on a well known site but if he'd had thumbs would have re-wired the house so be warned!
 
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Just out of interest is it pronounced Tre CAIN er or TREKener? I have heard it both ways and always wondered which was correct?

I believe they are very similar to TBs in behaviour.

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I say Tre CAIN er as that is how it was pronounced at a stud I worked at who bred them. (But I said TREKener before that!
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i thought they were laid back back warmbloods but my mate bought one she had to kick it on literally when she bought it- yes all it's family are like pro dressage but now she hardly rides she went from being very confident to not wanting to get on i've ridden it and it's just turned into a skitz, very very lively bucks/rears/leaps it's crazy- i recon it could put it's energy into something good but it's just got progressively worse.. and i think even if it was turned out it'd probably injur itself in the field...

i was suprised to read they're all like that as i thought it was just her- but yeh- she was very different when she went to see her....

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I have 3 Traks. They are highly intelligent and beautiful but they can also be very sharp and difficult. I am not a professional rider but consider myself a decent ameteur. They are all better behaved when in plenty of work. They learn very quickly (and get bored easily) and have a lot of ring presence. I have heard them called tricky Traks which does hold some truth!!
 
I own a trakehner x riding pony. How much of her character comes from the trakehner I'm not sure as she has arab and tb on her riding pony side. To sum her up, I would say mardy little cow 60% of the time on the floor, but when ridden she isn't particularly sharp at all. I would say she is fairly trainable though. But I do think you can't generalise at all, as it completely depends on how you bring them up. Def go and see it and give it a fair chance and don't get on it thinking it's a hot headed little skitzo!
 
They have a reputation for being the "hottest" warmbloods, mainly because in the past they were the warmblood studbook with the most thoroughbred blood. They were never carriage horses, but were bred as military mounts from the inception of the studbook. The difference between them and other warmbloods isn't so strong anymore, as most of the European studbooks have gone towards a lighter, more modern sports horse type.

So far as you can generalise, they are lovely, athletic horses, intelligent and talented.
 
Charlie 76, your mare looks beautiful! I also own a TBxTrakehner, he is the most beautiful, polite, gentle, intelligent and friendly horse that I have ever owned(not that I'm biased or anything!!) They are the Ferraris of the equine world, though IMO, so not for happy hackers or weekend riders. My boy looks TB but has better movement, would love to post picci but I'm a mature lady and technologically challenged!
 
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