showqa
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Can you please tell me the pros and cons, and suggest the better makes? Are they better for a flat backed horse? Thanks
Treeless saddles
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Booboos
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Well, some people like them and some people don't, some horses like them and some don't, so the best thing is to have a try on one and see what you think. In general I would stay clear of the cheaper brands on the grounds that you get what you pay for. A couple of companies (Total Saddle Solutions and Foenix saddles) will let you rent the saddle for a per-week fee and you can try it out before buying.
I have a Total Saddle Solutions for a high withered horse and he loves it, I also find it good for my back. My younger horse though did not like it at all and he is in a treed saddle.
I have a Total Saddle Solutions for a high withered horse and he loves it, I also find it good for my back. My younger horse though did not like it at all and he is in a treed saddle.
HLB
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i have tried every single one!! Dont waste your money, they all have problems.
Saddle solution (ansur) the spine is way to narrow so it sits on the spine either side!!
Heather moffets is a load of rubbish as it falls the the horses whither, unless they hav nothing, but the cantle area is so flat, that on a narrow horse it only sits of the muscle close to the spine.
The barefoot are okay for hacking but in rising trott you hit yourself on the fiberglass pommel.
- this also goes for the torsion and dartmoor and copperbeach (sold on ebay).
The freeform stirrup bar thingy press down and sits on the spine, causeing alot of damage.
what else,
Arr the Hoo bee (half tree) is dreadful dont touch with a barge pole, major damage they should be burnt!!
Look on ebay, its littered with the bloody things, why, because everyone who buys one then relieses that they are rubbish and like me, you buy a different type, then another different type and another until you have exhausted every one and you smake yourself for being a twat!!
and putting your poor horse through that dreadful trail
Take my advise - DO NOT GO THERE
Save your money and get a realy nice saddle made to fit.
Saddle solution (ansur) the spine is way to narrow so it sits on the spine either side!!
Heather moffets is a load of rubbish as it falls the the horses whither, unless they hav nothing, but the cantle area is so flat, that on a narrow horse it only sits of the muscle close to the spine.
The barefoot are okay for hacking but in rising trott you hit yourself on the fiberglass pommel.
The freeform stirrup bar thingy press down and sits on the spine, causeing alot of damage.
what else,
Arr the Hoo bee (half tree) is dreadful dont touch with a barge pole, major damage they should be burnt!!
Look on ebay, its littered with the bloody things, why, because everyone who buys one then relieses that they are rubbish and like me, you buy a different type, then another different type and another until you have exhausted every one and you smake yourself for being a twat!!
Take my advise - DO NOT GO THERE
Save your money and get a realy nice saddle made to fit.
Rosehip
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Ive just bought a requisite roamer for my vet flat very round mare - I couldnt fit a tree'd to her - and we both love it. I do have a better quality pad for under it - as I dont want any pressure problems. If you can try it before you buy then all the better, for me it was the last resort so I went ahead and bought a cheap one to see if it would do any good.
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Donkeymad
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Treeless do NOT suite every horse or every rider, but thousands of people find them fantastic saddles. the cheaper ones are certainly full of problems as they tend to be quite badly made. I mentioned the Torsion as they are the original treeless saddle and, IMHO, still the best. They are not faultless completely, but most problems can be easily overcome by use of the correct equipment, eg. saddle pad.
As I said though,no saddle fits/suits every horse, so why not trial a Torsion?
auntyfred
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I have been using a treeless saddle for over 4 years with no problems. My mare has never had any back problems and I am not a lightweight rider.
My mare is a typical flat backed native.
I dislike the dressage girth but apart from that nothing. It's stable enough for me to mount from the ground, has never slipped even when hanging off to one side when my mare spooked in canter.
It's the Heather Moffet Phoenix with suber panels.
There is not a single saddle on this planet that would suit every horse despite what some manufactorers tell you.
I would say try before you buy and try as many as you can. There is a treeless saddle fitter I believe in the surry area who can bring a selection for you to try.
My mare is a typical flat backed native.
I dislike the dressage girth but apart from that nothing. It's stable enough for me to mount from the ground, has never slipped even when hanging off to one side when my mare spooked in canter.
It's the Heather Moffet Phoenix with suber panels.
There is not a single saddle on this planet that would suit every horse despite what some manufactorers tell you.
I would say try before you buy and try as many as you can. There is a treeless saddle fitter I believe in the surry area who can bring a selection for you to try.
Silverspring
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I think as with all saddle's it depends on the horse and rider whether you will find the right treeless saddle. They fit some horses better than others (in the same way a traditional saddle will fit a TB better than a heavy cob!) and they suite some riders better than other.
I think you have to consider why you want a treeless saddle, how it will benefit your horse, how it will benefit you etc.
Definitely avoid the cheaper makes as the whole treeless concept isn't easy to mimic so they will not be getting it 100% right!
I think you have to consider why you want a treeless saddle, how it will benefit your horse, how it will benefit you etc.
Definitely avoid the cheaper makes as the whole treeless concept isn't easy to mimic so they will not be getting it 100% right!
dwi
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I went for a treeless saddle as I was told it was going to be really difficult to find a saddle that fitted my flat backed native well. I tried one and while it was very comfy for me it hurt her back. It was only one brand, I'm sure others might have been fine but I'm now back in a treed saddle and it fits D beautifully. My saddle has Flair pockets and it seems to really work with her shape because its nice and soft so it moulds onto her back rather than sitting on top of it. If a saddler is telling you that you won't get a saddle to fit your horse because of its shape I'd find a different saddler. My yard has seen its fair share of dodgy saddlers but we now have an excellent woman that most of us use and is capable of fitting saddle to natives.
Moggy in Manolos
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I do love treeless, but they are not for every rider and not for every horse, try one out, there are plenty offered on trial
Serephin
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I love my treeless - its a barefoot cheyenne - rising trot is fine, I don't find it a problem at all - both my horses have gone very well in the cheyenne, and I find it very comfy and feel very secure - I wouldn't go back to treed now.
Booboos
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Saddle solution (ansur) the spine is way to narrow so it sits on the spine either side!!
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Sorry, have to disagree with your there. My high withered chap was crippled with treed saddles pinching his spine (his spine tends to widen out in the middle, we tried every saddle make known to man including made to messure) and will only work in a Total Saddle Solutions (he competes Elem/Medium with no problems). He has been ridden in it for 15 months now with physio checks every 3 months and he has had a completely clear back everytime.
Saddle solution (ansur) the spine is way to narrow so it sits on the spine either side!!
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Sorry, have to disagree with your there. My high withered chap was crippled with treed saddles pinching his spine (his spine tends to widen out in the middle, we tried every saddle make known to man including made to messure) and will only work in a Total Saddle Solutions (he competes Elem/Medium with no problems). He has been ridden in it for 15 months now with physio checks every 3 months and he has had a completely clear back everytime.
howrse
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if you dont want a treeless saddle buy a prper saddle *BRAND NEW* on ebay 49.99 im saving to buy one as i use a pony pad well its mainly used for shetlands but i use it on a sec d mare but its rubbed her withers so im buying her a saddle its on ebay by the way