'Trendy Cross Breeds'

They are all mongrels to me I'm afraid. I've always had Whippets and I love them. I think it's really odd to see them crossed with Staffies. A whippet with a big, broad head and small eyes looks alarming to me :eek:
 
Stan is a Jack Russell x Border Terrier...a Brussel? a Jorder? hmmm....I usually refer to him as a stinky farm terrierest! He was NOT cheap though, but I'm happy that we paid for a puppy who was well socialised - child proof, (reasonably) cat proof, other dog proof, horse proof, cow proof....etc!
 
celfyddydau said:
Bichon Noir anyone?

http://www.preloved.co.uk/fuseaction-adverts.showadvert/index-1033102561/ba768270.html

No idea how this is a rare and unique breed,let alone how the pups come with 5 generation pedigrees when mum is a Bichon and dad a poodle.
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FGS "fundamentally a black Bichon Frise", no its not its a cross breed.:mad: £800 for a bitch, and that is carrying half Bichon genes so will more than likely chuck out white pups if it is bred from, and of course it will be. Wonder how they will advertise that litter, half Bichon Frise half Bichon Noir?:rolleyes:
 
Well in that case I am the very proud owner of a Pointermann and a 100% pure-bred Heinz 57. Of course they both very 'special', and have absolutely unique breeding!


(Good job one was free and one was from the Dog's Trust then isn't it...)
 
Snowy Celandine said:
They are all mongrels to me I'm afraid. I've always had Whippets and I love them. I think it's really odd to see them crossed with Staffies. A whippet with a big, broad head and small eyes looks alarming to me :eek:
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I know what you're saying - Pug ugly! No offence to pugs intended. :D How do you feel about Werriers?:)
 
I saw a litter of Jackweilers advertised last year. I can only hope they ended p the size of a russell with the temperament of a rottie not the other way round :eek:
 
Well never advertised as we kept her... but we have maybe bred the first ever

ROTTERDALE!!

Well officially a Patter-weiler but we think Rotterdale sounds better!
Our patterdale stud dog managed to mate our Rottweiler bitch, we have no idea how as in the 4 years we've had him he's never managed before, he must hav caught her lying down, we had no idea she was in pup until the day she gave birth! She had 4 but 2 faded and died and a 3rd was stillborn.
Yeti was tiny actually smaller than a terrier pup but she latched on and fed and kept feeding, she definitely had that fighting spirit, and although mum is very clumsy she managed not to lie on her. Jade always mothers the patterdale pups when we have a litter, she she is a proper softie but we have never bred from her as she has a restriction on her pedigree papers!!

Here is Yeti, she is a bit taller than a standard Patterdale and although she does have a strong Rottie type head she is very athletically built and extremely fast. We could never have sold her as we were too intrigued at what she would end up like, she is lovely and has the most fab temperament, but then so have both the parents! She's 3 and a half months old in this photo.

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celfyddydau said:
Bichon Noir anyone?

http://www.preloved.co.uk/fuseaction-adverts.showadvert/index-1033102561/ba768270.html

No idea how this is a rare and unique breed,let alone how the pups come with 5 generation pedigrees when mum is a Bichon and dad a poodle.
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Anyone notice the report facility to the right of the Add?

To me this is deliberately misleading and should be reported, preferably to Trading Standards but the paper will do to start, anyone up for a bit of a fightback to save those who don't do their research???
 
I've met a few people with a few weird breeds in the last few months and had a few interesting discussions ! One woman told me very proudly that she had a labmaraner and when she noticed my jaw had dropped open she thought I was at a loss as to what it was said it was lab and wiemaraner . I said I realised what breeds the cross was . 'Oh no its not a cross its a breed . It cost a £1000 and is a breed.' Well I gave up after trying to find out what health/hips had been done and my brain started aching ! Other great crosses I've come across recently are Akita x Alaskan Malamute , Shar pei x lab (mistake) , Shar pei x Lakeland Terrier (on purpose) . Why .
 
When clients come to book in their cross breeds I always ask what was the mother & write down that breed X.

If they don't know what the mother was -which is not uncommon with some of the puppy farm designer dogs - I put whatever size cross breed with coat type if for grooming.

After all you can only be sure of mum unless there is a paper trail and if you don't know what mum is the breed or mix is just a guess.

I did see an advert for an unregistered Landseer newfoundland at stud - the mind boggles.
 
Im sorry but this thread has had me literally laughing out loud!

I love the 'no, its a pedigree..!!' ''no, its a mongrel'

i even had an argument with a 'very knowledgable young terrierman wannabe' that his pit bull X greyhound X saluki was in fact a LURCHER!!!
'its not a lurcher, its a blah crossed blah crossed blah'.. 'no, its a fooking lurcher-what do you think a lurcher is you pretentious moron!!!''

Have got to say foxfolly, have you ever got someone to try Yeti on a fox, bet she would be freaking awesome???

I 'breed' sprockers, the energy of a springer X the versatility, grit and ease of a cocker. both parent do indeed have 5 gen pedigrees, the dad has an awesome pedigree with 46 FTCH/W in it, but that doesnt apply to their puppies. Luckily i dont sell to idiots so if was ever asked that i would just laugh.

I spose my pups at the moment are PatterJacks... please someone cyber punch me if i ever call them that!
 
PerdixPerdix said:
Have got to say foxfolly, have you ever got someone to try Yeti on a fox, bet she would be freaking awesome???
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She'll probably do some ratting with the other terriers, we only use them for ratting anyway, her Dad is a very good worker, he's nuttall lines so if she takes after him she probably would take on something bigger than a rat... Will (Dad) would take on anything given the chance, he has a few scars to prove it... accidental Badger incident :-0 !!!

She's actually been out once beating which she was good at but I think she's too greedy to retrieve as she has already caught a few pheasants out walking... but she eats rather than brings them back.... that'll be the Rottie appetite!!

She was such a little miracle that we just had to keep her!
 
I'd be sorely tempted to give her a go. awesome looking dog.

her face is almost identical to our patterdale bitch.

You have to keep them when youve been there through the thick of it and nursed them. one of our sprockers last year, stunning lemon and white boy, had a really tough start , lots of late night bottle feeds and carrying him around in my pocket witha handwarmer bless, and i was desperate to hold on to him, but OHs best mate came to stay for a weekend and his GF fell in love and i just couldnt say no. they have a patterdale pup from us as well so its nice to keep up with how they are getting on.
 
Ive got a yorkiepoo, little wirey haired chap. 3 in the litter and each one looked totally different. Cost £200 which I thought was reasonable considering some of the silly prices.

I wanted a smaller. terrier type dog to keep our lab company and he actually looked quite like a wirey parsons jack russell pup when we went to look.

I like the combination of the breeds, doesnt bother me if he classed as a cross breed or mongrel, some of the best dogs we have had have been mongrels!

He has the intelligence of a poodle combined with the feistyness and nice nature of a yorkie.

There are some ridiculous prices about especially for the really little chau types.
 
PerdixPerdix said:
Im sorry but this thread has had me literally laughing out loud!

I love the 'no, its a pedigree..!!' ''no, its a mongrel'

i even had an argument with a 'very knowledgable young terrierman wannabe' that his pit bull X greyhound X saluki was in fact a LURCHER!!!
'its not a lurcher, its a blah crossed blah crossed blah'.. 'no, its a fooking lurcher-what do you think a lurcher is you pretentious moron!!!''

Have got to say foxfolly, have you ever got someone to try Yeti on a fox, bet she would be freaking awesome???

I 'breed' sprockers, the energy of a springer X the versatility, grit and ease of a cocker. both parent do indeed have 5 gen pedigrees, the dad has an awesome pedigree with 46 FTCH/W in it, but that doesnt apply to their puppies. Luckily i dont sell to idiots so if was ever asked that i would just laugh.

I spose my pups at the moment are PatterJacks... please someone cyber punch me if i ever call them that!
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Teee heeee I always used to think the same about lurchers, until I met my OH and he quickly corrected me (whilst laughing a lot) and explained the whole long sighted, running thing blah blah blah lol, have 3 lurchers, fab dogs!!!

Also have a sprocker, which wasnt stupidly priced (actually a lot cheaper than springers and cockers) he was purchased for working, not that he actually does much lol he`s good at catching mice and flushing pheasants, anything else is to a friend to play with :rolleyes:
 
Im actually a big mongrel fan BUT would not promote breeding cross breds. I paid £125 for my merle cross bred. I think the point of a pedigree is that you can predict size, trainability, temprement etc judging by what is most common for that breed. You know how much exercise it is likely to need etc- knowing this information will make it more likely to ensure you get the correct dog for your lifestyle.

Like my cross bred was sold to me as a collie x labrador, she looks like a heavy set border collie. I cant guarantee her parentage is what she was sold to me as and now she has grown up, everything about her behaviour is mostly border collie. A novice dog owner could have brought her thinking 'shes crossed with a labrador, theyre great family pets!' and now have a bouncy, over-excited, sometimes nervous exercise obsessed nutjob on their hands!
 
Seahorse said:
I had a collie x lurcher but I always called him a Lurcher, but when he ran after something he would round it up like a sheep!!
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collie x lurcher is in fact a lurcher as long as theres a sighthound breed in the cross

sighthound x with any other breed(s)= lurcher
sighthound x sighthound = longdog but also can be called a lurcher
which of course are crosses

some people make me mad with these fashion names..and yes some crosses turn out to be good pets/workers
the whippet is the 'poor mans dog',fetching the dinner on the table as the greyhound was too big and not as agile so i think they had crossed the greyhound with something simular to the manchester terrier over so many years hence the whippet
 
we have a cockapoo. must admit she does look a bit like a tibetan terrier. was trying to tell my sis this(she owns her) but she denied it.
anyway cockapoos cost between £450 for a black one and up to £700 for "teddy bear" which is basically cream.
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rowy said:
we have a cockapoo. must admit she does look a bit like a tibetan terrier. was trying to tell my sis this(she owns her) but she denied it.
anyway cockapoos cost between £450 for a black one and up to £700 for "teddy bear" which is basically cream.
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she is sweet BUT i would never pay that price for any dog ,my kc reg dogs wasnt even that price and they both have good pedigrees and the parents have proven themselves

what really get my goat up aswell is when breeder put a higher price for the bitches..why? encourages more breeding,im sure it doesnt cost more to rear a girlie

when i was looking for my first dog we phoned up a so called breeder and each indiviual colour was a diff price tag why?..in fact my first whippy was un reg and she was £150(a few yaers ago)..
 
our pure bred KC registered sheltie cos about £500. I guess its really different with each breed and how rare they are and how popular they are. I dont see many cockapoo breeders around obv cos they are a cross breed but they have just become really popular because of looking kinda like a teddy bear and having good temperments as well as being a good size and most dont shed.
I guess dogs are just priced how high people are willing to pay for them, a lot of people were buying from this breeder who bred cockapoos as well as cocker spaniels. He had a huge waiting list for the cockapoos.
 
Not all poodle crosses are non shedding, some take the coat of the other breed.

You're right though, if people are willing to pay that amount of money....just as long as people know there are other options than the first pup they see and the words of a slick talking seller.
I could sell my bitch for £££ or breed her back from now until kingdom come, because I can talk her up and she has all those snazzy papers and all that fancy-dan ancestry...but I know it would be wrong because she is a looper :p

However I'll be heading into the £500-£1000 bracket for my next one unless I get very good luck with a rescue or rehome so I shouldn't complain :p
 
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